Should Batman have been able to beat Captain America?

Batman is DC's most brilliant tactician... and strategist (Marvel's equivalent: Black Panther or Iron Man). Strategic planning is what sometimes called as "Da Prep Time" and it's widely known to be Batman's most dangerous arsenal.

Anyway, in a straight caged fight without any time to "Prep Time", CA could beat Batty 6/10. This is being Batman IQ is more than CA, and he knows a lot of different martial arts to counter CA basic fighting arts. With "Prep Time" and an open environment, Batman kicks CA ass 3/10 times. CA Fighting Batman is like fighting Iron Man or Black Panther - his resources are immense and can call upon them anytime if Batman is cornered.

 

In a straight out fight, Bats would most definatley loose. Why? Cap can't get tired, his body doesn't produce lactic acid. Not only that, he's physically stronger, faster, and quicker.

Now, if they each had prep time? I have no idea, they're both great at what they do.

And just to make it clear, I don't lean to either side in Marvel/DC fanboyship, and I like Bats a lot more then Cap, but Bats can't win it all.

 

Marvel's prep time master is not Cap. It's Black Panther or to a lesser degree, Iron Man. Cap is more like a field commander. A tactician not truely a strategist.

Batman is more of both, but highly slanted on the Strategic/prep time side. Blame on the fact that DC has less variety of characters.

 

what i see cap do a lot of is field placement..and positional leadership

"u stand there, and i want this formation and what not"

that's great and all but falls short of actually coming up with trump cards and manipulating his enemy into "saying" something he really shouldn't have in "room A"

 

K, I am kinda new to the forums so somebody explain, why do you try and debate crossover universe characters. Example: It's like this, the stuff wolverines made out of is unbreakable in mu, but can supes break it in dcu, both sides can show tons of evidence why or why not supes can, but its diff universes, where the other character doesn't exist, so none of it matters, i am just confused cause all it seems to do is start huge heated threads that never get settled or agreed on, kinda pointless, right?

The stuff wolfy's made of is Adamantium, thats what i meant...

 

not exactly...

for example

do u think the superman is faster than wolverine?

one just need be objective

 

Actually I am a Marvel Fanboy, DC is very boring in my opinion, but to say that I'm to much of a fanboy to understand how this fight will end up is just stupid, since I've already explained in non-fanboy fashion why and how I think Cap would beat Batman, you Batman fanboy.

 

What the hell did you just say, sorry im a tad slow, i havent slept in like four days.

 

Well thats kinda the point, just to argue basically.

 

Thank u marvelman, k well that sounds fun, I am gonna go w/ batman, i mean he is super fast, and what he can't make up in speed and endurance, he's got gadgets, and stealth, two things that cap america doesnt seem to have much of.

 

Oh and Cap has never battled somebody with gadgets. Come on now. Cap wins, not easily but he still wins.

 

It all aslo depends on where they are, when, etc. If they were in an abondoned wear-house then Bats could cut the lights, and night vision style beat the hell out of Cap. right?

 

I'm sure Cap's faught in similar circumstances. I dont care where or when it is, I wont Budge Cap will win. Cap will find a way to take the battle to a better lit area, it's not that hard.

 

Idk Cap. very well, but I think that it all depends, they are close in alot of things, about as close as two diff. universe characters can get so, like I said, think it all depends.

 

Yes it does, but Cap wins anyway.

 

What would be a good match up is Bats and Moon Knight with about a quarter moon., in a moon lit courtyard, or field, no prep.

 

Yea I'd say Batman and Moon Knight would give Batman a better chance of winning, they are much more equal.

 

u should get some sleep

 

And they are both night stalkers, and M. Knight can gain bats level of physical training w/out the years of training, by the moon, I might start a thread, if its not already over done.

PS Marvin, I CAN'T!!!

 

I dont mind if you do, but I'll bet any amount of money that either Darth or Tropico will come in and ***** about making another VS thread.

 

Most of the time Cap has access to the resources of the Avengers, Shield and the FF. This is a lot more resources than Batman has access to. It is not true now but we still don't how it will be in the Future. Come to think of it he could probably get access to the X-Mens resources as well.

 

Yeah, I'll just put in a suggestion at the tournament thread or something.

 

Originally Posted by supermarvelman
They are both at there physical peaks, but Caps physical peak is higher than Batmans, I dont care how much Batman trains, he cant be near the condition Cap is in, so what if Batman did it naturally, and Cap did it with the SuperSoldierSerum, that Serum is what has pushed every part of his body to its physical peak, strength, speed, endurance, agility, durability, etc... all of them at there peak at once. Thats not how Batman condition is, he's not stronger than Cap, he's not faster than Cap, phsyically he has nothing on Cap, fighting wise he might have a little advantage, but Cap is probably the best natural fighter in the Marvel Universe. Sometimes in MMA, a black belt in Jiu Jitsu will lose to a guy who has less skill, just because you have more training doesnt mean you win everytime. Also Cap is a war veteran, I dont care what Batman has been through, he has not gone through War.


this is where ur wrong

if indeed batman is the superior fighter, or rather superior in the way he needs to be than he has the advantage.

think of it this way

you have this asian martial arts master from um say asia whose been studying all his life and he's in his early 50s so he's not as young as he used to be but what he lacks in energy he more than makes up for in skill, by skill i mean years of reclusive intensive training in what beats what and formulating new forms out of the forms he's mastered...

than you get a really big 20 something guy whose in tip top shape and and run maratons but say only knows boxing and (what the hey) Judo...

what do u think would happen?

 

Just make the thread, who cares, if nobody wants to post in it, it will die out.

 

batman has jla/jsa/wayne(his own company for petessake) tech resources at his beck and call

and i'm doubt cap has access to x-men toys
that's almost like saying they would let fury walk in and borrow the jet