Should Batman have been able to beat Captain America?

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  1. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    No Cap doesn't know MT, but he is experienced enough to know how to throw a good solid knee. Again I do Jiu Jitsu, thats it, but I do know how to throw a wicked knee, we do some MMA, at the place I train, I dont know MT, but I've sure knocked the **** out of people who now MT, and I dont.

    Again you give Cap no credit whatsoever, he carries a shield but he isnt dependent on it, like you think.

    Yea Batman abilities could make up for the strength, but since Cap hes enhanced strength, and is an expert boxer, imagine what a Punch to the temple or sternum would do to Batman, it would hit with twice the force of any of batman's blows.

    IMO Cap is probably better at Judo than Batman, since Batman has to focus on 126 other forms of combat.

    Cap wins:oldrazz:
     
  2. chiefchirpa Haaa-rooooooo

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    Yeah, but that's not Cap stuff and Cap doesn't use and rely on gadgets. Batman owns gadgets like Iron Man and Black Panther, and much more so than those 2 Marvel characters. Other than that, Batman knows what and how to use the gadgets because he's a Technical guy. If there's one famous US comic character that (over)use gadgets and vehicles, it's Batman.
     
  3. Marvin Avenger

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    how big a speed advantage?

    last i read
    cap could bench around 900lbs
    whereas bats could bench 750 ish

    consitantly speaking...that's not even close to double

    so how much faster is he than batman?
    close to double u think?

    :o


    cutting the lights, makes perfect sense, the flaw with that is that there has to be lights to cut so it's fallace
    smoke can happen anywhere...and cap is free to run all he wants...

    ultrasonics tho? i don't see cap dealing with those

    actually ur the one that said ur done posting...
    (something about wanting my attention...now that u have it, make the most of it)
     
  4. Marvin Avenger

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    i see now

    for the record tho, this last post is a wonderful contradiction:cwink:
    i like it
     
  5. Clark K. Civilian

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    i never siad i was done, and i can quote that you did, besides what does benching have the slightest to do with speed, does it matter if hulk can bemch a million and flash three hundred, no, its all about the speed, and if the serum even served a purpose its that it gave cap unhumanly like speed, unmatched speed by any other unaltered human.
     
  6. Clark K. Civilian

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    and the gadgets, idk how cap could deal, if bats could use em before cap got a deadly blow on bats, there im open minded...
     
  7. chiefchirpa Haaa-rooooooo

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    Therefore Batman may know how to counter Judo.
     
  8. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    Your a moron, I wont budge cause I believe in my argument just like you believe in yours. So I'm stubborn but your not? I dont think so, you are a hypocrite. My arguments are also canon, just because I dont have pics to show you doesnt mean ****. My "retorts" are also well crafted, in your opinion they're not, theres nothing I can do about that. Whats so wrong with that post, I'm being honest, also learn how to actually quote my posts, there you go I did it for you. Oh and by the looks of your sig I know your a Batman fanboy, and you wont budge cause thats what you are. Me I'm not a Cap fanboy, I really dont like his book, and he's not that entertaining to me, but I still know Cap would take Cap down, down to china town.
     
  9. Clark K. Civilian

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    well put, bravo, marvlman, bravo
     
  10. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    No ****, but Batman Judo is probably much more refined. Doesnt mean he'll beat Bat with it, but my main point is Cap's Judo is probably much better.
     
  11. Marvin Avenger

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    i thinks it's more a draw
     
  12. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    Thank you Clark K.
     
  13. Clark K. Civilian

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    I say we put this thread to bed (it rhymes), we are never gonna agree, and i am insulting ppl i dont even know. It seems we have hit a stalemate in my book, with speed, gadgets, and martial arts, and unless this fight actually goes down, we dont know how those factors will play out, but if you want you can continue the argurment, for the last nd final time, I am Done.
     
  14. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    Thats basically what your saying when you talk about Batman's 120 some-odd fighting styles, so do you need me to help you take your foot out of your mouth?
     
  15. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    I'm going to sleep,:o have a good night having wet dreams about Batman training. Good night Marvin.:oldrazz:
     
  16. Marvin Avenger

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    i'm pretty sure i didn't, but sure u or maybe marvelman did...i don't know it's late

    listen here

    by bringing up the strength factor i am merely pointing out that caps strengh has been raised to what the most a human can do?
    and what that about 900lbs(it's posted around here)

    so if that's how much "Stronger" he is that us?

    how much faster could he possibly be?

    bare in mind the current benching record is about that!

    unless ofcourse the serum made him alot faster than it made him strong?
     
  17. Clark K. Civilian

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    I guess i'll have to say it one more last and final time I am done, and read what i said, i think it'll make everyone rest easy.
     
  18. Marvin Avenger

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    oh right...cap can deal deadly blows before bats can reach for a button...

    lets forget about the part where batman is just about his hand to hand match for a second:o
     
  19. supermarvelman Sidekick

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    Cap doesnt lose, either does Batman, Marvin does.
     
  20. Clark K. Civilian

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    he should be used to it by now.
     
  21. Marvin Avenger

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    i would quote u "properly," but i don't see a point it in, i find my way faster.


    thing is kid...no where, have i said that i won't budge so don't even try
    fact of the matter is I can be conviced...and when i get a good argument in caps favour i'll be open to it...weather u believe that or not is ur porogative...
    (i do at the moment believe it's boyond u to find one...maybe corp or some such person)

    but atleast i'm not telling u and the world that i'm not gonna be convinced otherwise!

    sigh, i guess the only way to prove i'm not a "hyprocrite" is to give in to ur argument right...:o

    my sig has nothing to do with me liking batman, it's the response to a question i got...
    if anything I'm just know what batman is capable of.
    (note the prep time)
     
  22. Marvin Avenger

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    I'll ask u to stop with the personal stuff now

    u lose more of my respect everytime
     
  23. Marvin Avenger

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    later
     
  24. Marvin Avenger

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    "i should be used to it by now"

    good grief charlie brown

    :whatever:
     
  25. Marvin Avenger

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    i love having to spoon feed sarcasm to ppl

    especially when they get cocky

    U
    ME
    which brings us to ur last little mess of comprehension

    so i'll spell it out

    u saying that cap is better at judo than batman because batman "has to focus" on alot of different styles
    is like u saying that I'm better at chess than someone who knows every move there is to make and how to plan 10 moves ahead...

    that's fallace cause that's in actual fact what makes a good chess player and in turn what makes him better than me...

    so no, batman is not poorer at judo because he "has to focus on alot of different styles"

    and lets not talk about feet in mouths
     

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