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The Rise of Skywalker Should Disney Had Followed George’s Plans For The ST?

Should Disney had used Lucas’s ideas?

  • Yes, it was wrong to discard his ideas!

    Votes: 13 81.3%
  • Nope. We dodged a bullet.

    Votes: 3 18.8%

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    16

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Now that the sequel trilogy is over do you think it was a mistake for Disney to discard Lucas’s plans for the sequel trilogy?

For those not in the know about George’s plans for the sequel trilogy here’s some insight from the man himself.

The next three Star Wars films were going to get into a microbiotic world. But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force… If I’d held onto the company I could have done it, and then it would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did Phantom Menace and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told.”

Lucas wanted his version of the trilogy to explore the microbiotic world and delve back into controversial aspects like the Midiclorians. Not going to lie, I’d be rather curious to see this version. Would you? Or... do you think we dodged a bullet?
 
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Everyone would still be angry and yelling at Disney and each other for letting George ruin Star Wars a second time.

Bank on it.
 
There is nothing wrong with the basic story of the prequels. The execution is awful. I think using his basic outline for the ST while hiring other directors to actually make the movies would have worked. That worked for the OT and it worked for Lucas with Indiana Jones, though Spielberg was more of a partner in that scenario.

I’ve felt that Lucas doesn’t like directing that much. That’s why he’s only directed six films his whole career when he had the power to do much more. It’s why he took Indiana Jones to Spielberg. He would have been a great Classic Hollywood Producer who hired directors and writers to tell their story.
 
There is nothing wrong with the basic story of the prequels. The execution is awful. I think using his basic outline for the ST while hiring other directors to actually make the movies would have worked. That worked for the OT and it worked for Lucas with Indiana Jones, though Spielberg was more of a partner in that scenario.

I’ve felt that Lucas doesn’t like directing that much. That’s why he’s only directed six films his whole career when he had the power to do much more. It’s why he took Indiana Jones to Spielberg. He would have been a great Classic Hollywood Producer who hired directors and writers to tell their story.

I don't think Lucas would have been satisfied with that role. By his own admission, he wanted more direct control. It's why the prequels were made the way that they were, with him having complete creative autonomy. It's a pattern of behavior that goes back as far as Return of the Jedi, which he essentially ghost-directed after clashing with Irvin Kershner on Empire (which he has said is his least favorite film in the series). He's never been a guy that plays very well with others.
 
There is nothing wrong with the basic story of the prequels. The execution is awful. I think using his basic outline for the ST while hiring other directors to actually make the movies would have worked. That worked for the OT and it worked for Lucas with Indiana Jones, though Spielberg was more of a partner in that scenario.

I’ve felt that Lucas doesn’t like directing that much. That’s why he’s only directed six films his whole career when he had the power to do much more. It’s why he took Indiana Jones to Spielberg. He would have been a great Classic Hollywood Producer who hired directors and writers to tell their story.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't think Lucas would have been satisfied with that role. By his own admission, he wanted more direct control. It's why the prequels were made the way that they were, with him having complete creative autonomy. It's a pattern of behavior that goes back as far as Return of the Jedi, which he essentially ghost-directed after clashing with Irvin Kershner on Empire (which he has said is his least favorite film in the series). He's never been a guy that plays very well with others.
Honestly who cares if he is satisfied you could've done the sequels off is his treatment story and bring him in as an advisor role only whenever you get stuck or have him review the script for you and ask for his inputs.
 
I don't think there is a way to answer this without know what his ideas are/were
 
I don't like how things went between Disney and Lucas. It's kind of sad to see him 'divorced' from it, and would have gladly seen him contribute. I suspect it would be mighty difficult to maintain that relationship though, Star Wars being so close to George and something he has controlled for so long. It's cool to hate on Disney, but in this case I think it is safe to say a lot of damage had been done already. The reactions to the PT must have been incredibly difficult.
 
Basically, it sounds like he wanted to deconstruct the Jedi religion Force mythology. Would fans have really gone for that? Especially considering how much hell there was over midichlorians?
 
I dont known the PT is so so bad way worse then any thing in the ST and i thought i heard that the basic like outline and characters in this trilogy were ideas that Geroge had any way?
 
I think they should’ve built off his ideas. Maybe not totally use them, but use the good ideas and go to him for more input. George could build worlds, something sorely lacking in the sequels. He just wasn’t great putting it all to paper and film in terms of writing the story. The CGI May be iffy, but nothing comes close to a world like Felucia, even if little time was spent there.
 
Yes, because it would have meant GL being a part of the franchise he created and that's how it should have been. I wish Disney had kept his ideas and used them for the ST. He could have consulted on the project similar to the way he is doing for the Mandalorian. Right now, George Lucas being somewhat divorced from his own creation is a big downer for me.
 
Based on the PT and that microbiotic universe thing-- Nope.

Its weird, because he also did the Mortis stuff. As well as start to let the Force get weird in the Clone Wars. The thing about Lucas, is that he changes his mind. A lot. Frankly, trying to draw a conclusion on what the sequel trilogy would have been based on past work is foolishness.
 
Its weird, because he also did the Mortis stuff. As well as start to let the Force get weird in the Clone Wars. The thing about Lucas, is that he changes his mind. A lot. Frankly, trying to draw a conclusion on what the sequel trilogy would have been based on past work is foolishness.

He did the Mortis arc? That's really interesting. Expanded universe aside, I'd argue it's the most mystical thing the franchise has ever done. Really weird that it came (at least in part) from 2000s era Lucas.
 
OK, 'approve." How much of that did he actually conceive and write himself?
 
The Whillis Awakens
The Last Whillis
The Rise of Whillis

The premise sounds intriguing and odd. Like it intrigues me if there's someone really looking at us (our creators) and the entire universe and we are just a small dot/product in the big space they've created.But how is George Lucas gonna execute that and still call it Star Wars? It sounds like a concept for another franchise, so Idk.
 
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Is there an actual detailed summary of what Lucas' ST plans were, or is the "microbiotic world" stuff as far as he got?
 
microbiotic worlds is pretty much explains itself. Maybe they wouldnt have shrunk themselves, but honestly, I don't think people would have loved them, which is something George full on admitted.

Im grateful for what Disneys given us personally, whether people like them or not.
 
It just doesn't sound very Star Wars.... all the galaxies, planets and stars in the universe and all of it would be set in a microbiotic world? With the whillis (I'm assuming creatures that are bigger than galaxies) that have a control over the universe just sounds so convoluted.
 
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