Should the Avengers be pushed back?

[Bubonic]

As much as I want the Avengers ASAP, I don't want them wasting any time on Ant-Man origin within the movie, and I also feel it be good to perhaps have another Hulk movie before.

So I'd do like this,
2010 would stay the same ; Iron Man 2 and Thor
2011 would have Captain America followed by TIH 2
2012 would have Ant-Man followed by Avengers.

Because with the way TIH ended, if we didn't see him again until Avengers in 2011 then either they'd skip what happens for Hulk between then and there, or the story will revolve around the Avengers conflict with the Hulk and with the Leader.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah it should... I think we need Hulk 2... Ant-Man in 2011... then do Cap/Avenegrs back to back but don't release them both in 2012. Push Avengers to 2013. Or they can just ditch Ant-Man and Hulk 2 but Avengers should still be pushed back a year.

 

[Bubonic]

I'm wondering if they could squeeze out Ant-Man for summer 2009 without it feeling like a rushed nightmare?

They have a script and a director don't they?
Or would it not leave enough time for the effects to be polished?

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah I don't know what the deal is with Ant-Man... Marvel said it was getting done... now its not going to get done. 2009 was the year for it though. You release Ant-Man in a summer stacked with other superheroes and it will do very bad.

 

[Chewy]

No. I personally think Giant-Man/Wasp SHOULD be first introduced to audiences in Avengers. Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Nick Fury - all these characters will already be larger than life characters who have been thrust into larger than life situations prior to Avengers. Give audiences the Pyms - just typical scientists - as sort of the "everyday joes" thrust into these huge whirlwinds of action and adventure, and they have someone to relate to.

I also don't think they need much origin per se, Pym just needs to be the scientist who invented the Pym particles and built a robot (Ultron!)

 

[Bubonic]

Fair enough, although I like his Ant-Man persona more, visually it could be much more fun then a Giant, and I figure if you want Giant-Man for the Avengers movie, at least have a full feature were we get to see Ant-Man in action.

 

[Chewy]

Fair enough, although I like his Ant-Man persona more, visually it could be much more fun then a Giant, and I figure if you want Giant-Man for the Avengers movie, at least have a full feature were we get to see Ant-Man in action.

I agree. I want to see an Ant-Man film too, but I'd imagine we will have to wait until after Avengers for it.

And I'm thinking they would probably use Giant-Man for Avengers since Wasp would cover the shrinking aspect.

 

[anthonytheghost]

if they can get favereau to direct both IM2 and avengers then they should definately postpone avengers. as currently scheduled, it would be almost impossible for him to do both.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think depending on the success of the Incredible Hulk and Thor, Marvel would probably push back the Avengers to give those movies sequels just like Iron Man is getting. And in that time frame they can also do movies for Hawkeye and Ant-Man.

 

[Captain Planet!]

Yes, push Avengers back to July 2012. I want them to take all the time they need for the Avengers. Fill the second spot in 2011 with TIH 2, And throw an Ant-Man movie somewhere inbetween August 2011 - June 2012.

 

[Raiden]

I think it should be pushed back; with so many movies coming out, there is no reason to rush and compromise their quality. Favearu already said that a 2-year window to make IM2 will be hard to pull off, and I think Marvel should focus on IM2, Thor, and Cap before the Avengers. Marvel should understand if these bombed due to rushed schedule, it will hurt them more.

 

[Chewy]

Yes, push Avengers back to July 2012. I want them to take all the time they need for the Avengers. Fill the second spot in 2011 with TIH 2, And throw an Ant-Man movie somewhere inbetween August 2010 - August 2011.

IF Avengers got pushed back to July 2012, the ONLY logical thing to do would be to push Cap back to July 2011, not fill that slot with TIH2. The only thing that makes more sense on Independence Day than Avengers is Captain America.

 

[Captain Planet!]

IF Avengers got pushed back to July 2012, the ONLY logical thing to do would be to push Cap back to July 2011, not fill that slot with TIH2. The only thing that makes more sense on Independence Day than Avengers is Captain America.

I agree with you, but I never said TIH2 should come out in July, I just meant that it should fill the other spot of that year. However, if some reason Marvel HAS to have a May realese for Cap, it should be Memorial Day weekend.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Memorial Day is always booked with the killer fourth installment. We got Shrek.. then Potter 231342352 the next year. But Cap not being a July 4th is a joke. Ant-Man is a perfect first week of May release. Or let Sony take the May 6th 2011 spot for SM4. These other studios are going to need premium release dates as well. I really have no idea how it will turn out. Right now all the other NON Marvel studios comic book characters have only a select few premium release dates for 2010/2011. Right now July 4th is open for 2010 and early- mid June is open for 2011. SM4, MOS, X-Men prequels, Fantastic Four movies are all fair game still. Let's keep that in mind.

TIH 2, if its even greenlit... would probably have to settle for another June release unless Marvel does a switcharoo with where Cap is slated currently. I just think that if Marvel still feels it will continue these solo franchises then its best to do Avengers as soon as possible. But if they don't intend on giving Hulk/Cap/Thor sequels then Avengers would be better off being pushed back sort of as the grand finale.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I say delay it if it looks like something else won't make its release date, or takes longer. At least they are already having script work done on Avengers. So I say, don't delay it yet, but be prepared to do so (since they have other projects to count on if they are going to get this out on time).

 

[cje_316]

How about the Black Panther? Will he be involved in the Avengers film as a heavy hitter? While I've heard that ineed his movie will be made, it wasn't confirmed that it'll be a tie-in to the actual Avengers movie. Can someone please give me some clarity on the Panther/Avengers relationship.

 

[Random490]

I don't think it needs to be pushed back for just Ant-man. And I'm not too worried about to much movies being made, cause unlike most studios, these are the only movies Marvel is currently planning on making, so all their film resources will not be drained like it would most studios

 

[REDophile]

So I'd do like this,
2010 would stay the same ; Iron Man 2 and Thor
2011 would have Captain America followed by TIH 2
2012 would have Ant-Man followed by Avengers.

Totally agreed, Marvel needs to change its schedule to this.

Because with the way TIH ended, if we didn't see him again until Avengers in 2011 then either they'd skip what happens for Hulk between then and there, or the story will revolve around the Avengers conflict with the Hulk and with the Leader.

Yes, there has got to be a TIH sequel. In IM 2, Norton or the Hulk should have a cameo where he accepts the invitation to join the Avengers. But after Sam "Mr. Blue" Sterns got the Hulk blood spilled on his brain, they gotta make a sequel with the Leader as the main villain. Letterier is ready to direct again, Norton said they left a lot out on purpose.

 

[giggs11uk]

Totally agreed, Marvel needs to change its schedule to this.



Yes, there has got to be a TIH sequel. In IM 2, Norton or the Hulk should have a cameo where he accepts the invitation to join the Avengers. But after Sam "Mr. Blue" Sterns got the Hulk blood spilled on his brain, they gotta make a sequel with the Leader as the main villain. Letterier is ready to direct again, Norton said they left a lot out on purpose.

That wouldn't make any sense. At the end of TIH Stark tells General Ross

Spoiler

theyre building a team. He obviously ment that they were building a team that could take on threats Ross's soilders couldn't handle like that little problem that Tony mentioned Ross had

Plus how would Tony even know that Banner was the Hulk. He is still on the run

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah I definitely think the end of TIH setup Hulk as the initial villain and it will begin with this conflict. Who the latter/main villain is for the climax is anyone's guess. But that's what they set up. Which is why I don't think it's absolutely necessary for TIH2. TIH2 should explore the grand finale for the Hulk character considering if Norton somehow agreed to come back for both Avengers AND TIH2 that would certainly be it for movie Hulk for quite some time. Since TIH2 could essentially close the book on the Hulk character it could very easily take place after Avengers. I'd prefer a 2011 release though.

 

[REDophile]

That wouldn't make any sense. At the end of TIH Stark tells General Ross

Yeah, but by than Ross has figured out that the Hulk isn't a menace. So has Stark, and he's already heard from Nick Fury about the "Avengers Initiative." For Thor and Captain America, I'd assume they would connect the Marvel Universe in a similar way to set up the Avengers.

 

[Omega Wizard]

Yes, so we can get more Hulk development.

 

[Hellstormer]

I actually really wanna see it get pushed back so none of the preludes are rushed. I think Ant-Man should come out before Avengers, but I also wanna see him as the everyman character amongst the Avenger gods.

 

[giggs11uk]

I think Iron Man 2 should be pushed back just because I think it would flow better

2010: Thor, Captain America
2011: The Avengers, Iron Man 2

 

[Paloogin]

I personally don't see what the Hulk or Iron Man can do with a second installment. The Avengers were mentioned in both of them, so in my opinion having a whole other film with either of them would seem like stalling on the Avengers thing. I say go for Thor, go for Captain America (which should be entirely in WW2, but that's another discussion for another thread), and then go straight into the Avengers. Anything else would seem slightly odd.

So:

2010: Thor and Cap
2011: Avengers