Sequels Should there even be a Fourth movie?

[WalterKovacs]

I mean, the loose ends have been more or less tied up, Peter is an adult, the best villains have been used and killed, and there arent a lot of stories to tell because there arent a lot of stories about peter to tell.

I mean, look at the last 3 movies, they arent about the title character. They're about peter, and the spider-man issues are branched off that. You cant just have a movie about lizard being out on the loose, you have to have something about peter.

Spider-Man 1 wasnt about the Spidey vs. Green Goblin, it was about peters relationship with MJ developing and becoming something more, and about Peter deciding who he is going to be as an adult, and he choses a hero.

SPider-Man 2 was about Peter deciding if being Spider-man is worth it, and what his responsibility truly is.

Spider-Man 3 was about having the maturity to forgive somebody, to put the anger behind you for the good of your loved ones.

Peter's learned everything there is to be an adult, and no more connections to villains to be metaphors for that. You can't really do the lizard without copying his relationship with Norman in the first movie, Black cat is an unclever ripoff of Catwoman, Carnage is an uninteresting re-hash of Venom with no humanity or pathos, and for the last time, Doc Ock and Venom are DEAD. Also, sandman is a good guy. He's not becoming a villain again, he wasnt evil to begin with. So sinister six can't really work without doc ock or sandman or venom.

I grew up with these movies, so definitive spider-man movie to me has Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi, so I dont know that it could work without them.

I feel like anything without them would just be a cheap knockoff.

 

[DoctorJones]

Definitely! What about Gwen? When people grow up, they tend to move on from the people they thought they'd be 'together forever' with as children. That opens a whole bunch of possibilities, including Norman Osborn's resurrection (his masterminding of the Clone Saga, which could be improved on screen, his anger over Harry's death, etc) Then there's the Lizard.

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Yes. We still have the story of The Lizard to tell & Gwen can still be used.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

There defenitley should be a fourth film. There are so many more stories to tell between MJ, Peter, Gwen, Aunt May and more Villians to use such as Lizard, Kraven, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, etc.

 

[Kamarov]

spider-man is more than the goblin legacy. 40 odd years have proved this. Also, spider-man is the most bankable superhero in cinematic history, so you can expect to see at the very least 25 spider-man movies in your life time.(slight exaggeration).

 

[Venom'sDad]

Should there even be a Fourth movie?

Yes

 

[TomPiltoff]

That opens a whole bunch of possibilities, including Norman Osborn's resurrection

Stop right there.

No.

 

[XSpidercideX]

I mean, the loose ends have been more or less tied up, Peter is an adult, the best villains have been used and killed, and there arent a lot of stories to tell because there arent a lot of stories about peter to tell.

I mean, look at the last 3 movies, they arent about the title character. They're about peter, and the spider-man issues are branched off that. You cant just have a movie about lizard being out on the loose, you have to have something about peter.

Spider-Man 1 wasnt about the Spidey vs. Green Goblin, it was about peters relationship with MJ developing and becoming something more, and about Peter deciding who he is going to be as an adult, and he choses a hero.

SPider-Man 2 was about Peter deciding if being Spider-man is worth it, and what his responsibility truly is.

Spider-Man 3 was about having the maturity to forgive somebody, to put the anger behind you for the good of your loved ones.

Peter's learned everything there is to be an adult, and no more connections to villains to be metaphors for that. You can't really do the lizard without copying his relationship with Norman in the first movie, Black cat is an unclever ripoff of Catwoman, Carnage is an uninteresting re-hash of Venom with no humanity or pathos, and for the last time, Doc Ock and Venom are DEAD. Also, sandman is a good guy. He's not becoming a villain again, he wasnt evil to begin with. So sinister six can't really work without doc ock or sandman or venom.

I grew up with these movies, so definitive spider-man movie to me has Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi, so I dont know that it could work without them.

I feel like anything without them would just be a cheap knockoff.

Yes, well, I grew up on the comics books and 90s cartoon, so that Tobey Maguire imposter is not the Spider-man I know, he is a cheap knockoff.

Hopefully we get someone better to play Peter and MJ, as far as I'm concerned the one and only Spider-man/MJ is Mark Bagely's version from back in Amazing in the early-mid 90s. Nothing really compares to that.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Yes. There are plenty of stories to tell.

 

[FaT_tONle]

What made the first trilogy so interesting were the dynamics building up with Peter and Harry Osborn... as well as the Peter MJ relationship... that's what drove the first three films... now the Peter MJ relationships is less interesting and Harry is dead... they are going to have to get more creative... even if it means writing in new characters just for movie purposes. I mean Gwen won't be nearly as interesting as Harry Osborn was... unless they make her become Carnage or something... more than likely it will be another love traingle. Brock dead doesn't help too much either... they need another major supporting character if they plan on making SM4 and beyond.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I think they should introduce Kingsley in the next movie. He doesn't need to become HobGoblin right away. Kinda use him for a build up towards the 5th or 6th movie.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think you need supporting players other than villains but are still central to Parker's everyday life... a new rival at the bugle... another dude competing for the attention of Spiderman's babes... I mean Flash... John Jameson... not much else they can do with those guys.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I want a fourth movie but the only reason why I don't want it is because Marvel might half arse it & not give us a good movie which we rightfully deserve. If they are going to go at it 110% and give us the best movie they can, then by all means make a Spider-Man 4. If not, let this franchise die & then start over.

 

[Jick]

I think they should introduce Kingsley in the next movie. He doesn't need to become HobGoblin right away. Kinda use him for a build up towards the 5th or 6th movie.

oh man...
no more goblins!
there's Rhino, there's Mysterio, there's Kraven, there's Scorpion...

 

[FNSpidey]

Very well said Walter and good job pointing out the respective themes of each film. People seem to forget there's a story behind each film and choose to focus on the coolness of each villain.

While I agree with almost everything you said, there's on thing I'm not so sure about. Do we know for certain that every possible lesson has been learned by Peter? I admit that finding a theme seems increasingly difficult with every film, but we're not the professionals here. I think a good writer can find new stories to tell, new lessons to be learned.

So, provided a good writer is on board, I say go ahead and do Spidey 4 or even beyond that. I could even roll with a change of director (although I really enjoy Raimi's work), as long as Sony hires an established, or at least talented one, and not go with some Michael Bay or any other actioner out there.

 

[blackvengeance]

I mean, the loose ends have been more or less tied up, Peter is an adult, the best villains have been used and killed, and there arent a lot of stories to tell because there arent a lot of stories about peter to tell.

I mean, look at the last 3 movies, they arent about the title character. They're about peter, and the spider-man issues are branched off that. You cant just have a movie about lizard being out on the loose, you have to have something about peter.

Spider-Man 1 wasnt about the Spidey vs. Green Goblin, it was about peters relationship with MJ developing and becoming something more, and about Peter deciding who he is going to be as an adult, and he choses a hero.

SPider-Man 2 was about Peter deciding if being Spider-man is worth it, and what his responsibility truly is.

Spider-Man 3 was about having the maturity to forgive somebody, to put the anger behind you for the good of your loved ones.

Peter's learned everything there is to be an adult, and no more connections to villains to be metaphors for that. You can't really do the lizard without copying his relationship with Norman in the first movie, Black cat is an unclever ripoff of Catwoman, Carnage is an uninteresting re-hash of Venom with no humanity or pathos, and for the last time, Doc Ock and Venom are DEAD. Also, sandman is a good guy. He's not becoming a villain again, he wasnt evil to begin with. So sinister six can't really work without doc ock or sandman or venom.

I grew up with these movies, so definitive spider-man movie to me has Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi, so I dont know that it could work without them.

I feel like anything without them would just be a cheap knockoff.

Not a lot of stories to tell?? How do you explain 100 or more issues of The Amazing Spider-man plus Ultimate universe?

 

[FaT_tONle]

I want a fourth movie but the only reason why I don't want it is because Marvel might half arse it & not give us a good movie which we rightfully deserve. If they are going to go at it 110% and give us the best movie they can, then by all means make a Spider-Man 4. If not, let this franchise die & then start over.

True... I will be going into SM4 knowing this franchise will never be as good as it used to be.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Yes there should be more films. Another trilogy. Now that Peter has learned to be an adult, it's time to have some real fun with franchise.

Tweak his costume (not that there's anything wrong with it now but tweaking it freshens things up) with John Romita Sr eyes, black metallic webbing, and call the next three films The Amazing Spider-Man, The Spectacular Spider-Man, and Web of Spider-Man (Web allusive to a conclusion, a wrap up if you will.)

Make the films about Spidey vs. the villian(s), have some sort of moral in there, but have some damn fun, less brooding, and some killer next gen action scenes.

Is that so much to ask for.

 

[Visionary]

James Vanderbilt is already writing the script for Spider-Man 4, so this thread is irrelevant regardless of your opinions.

True... I will be going into SM4 knowing this franchise will never be as good as it used to be.

I beg to differ, as I think the best of Spider-Man on film is yet to come. Of course, I don't think it's that hard to beat any of the previous films.

 

[Crusher Creel]

More Spider-Man films.

 

[bullets]

I would like a continuation . Although it is sort of a mess right now . I love Spiderman on the big screen .

 

[NewYorkSpider]

oh man...
no more goblins!
there's Rhino, there's Mysterio, there's Kraven, there's Scorpion...

I really don't want Rhino in a movie unless he's a side villian. Mysterio wouldn't be able to hold up a movie by himself IMO. Kraven is most likely going to be in SM4 with the Lizard and Scorpion will possibly be in SM5 or SM6. Also, we actually only got 1 goblin because Harry had no Goblin features. He was basically a ninja surfboarder. So don't let his name in the credits fool you. I really wouldn't mind seeing HobGoblin in a future spidey flick.

 

[Visionary]

Dude please, we've seen 3 movies that took the lives of father and son with the Goblin motif. There are other Spider-Man villains and stories to show and tell besides Goblins, man you people just don't like letting go. I don't want to see another pumpkin bomb for at least 10 years.

 

[Lex Luthor]

Now that we have the Goblin saga out of the way, Yes I would very much like to see a Spider-Man 4 up on the silver screen. And sooner, rather than later. As stated above, there are still a number of villains that have yet to be used thus far, that honestly need to be fully realized.

Lizard, Electro, Mysterio, and Scorpion are just some of those I would absolutely love to see in a future Spidey flick.

 

[The Joker_1000]

The Lizard is a must, we've heard Connors name in the first movie & we've gotten cameos in the second & third movie, it's time for him to become the Lizard.