Sequels Should we see the birth of the X-Men?

[Dr.Dude]

....Or not really so much the birth, as the beginnings. "Birth" just makes a better title.

This movie seems likely to show Magneto's steady turn to the dark side, and X-Men: The Last Stand showed him going with Xavier to recruit the first student --- making it clear that while both men were starting to have ideological divides, at this point they still worked together.

So would it be a good approach to basically cameo characters like Jean, Beast and Cyclops as teenagers, just to show a brief vision of a "brighter future" that Magneto is now beginning to turn against?

 

[The Top Hat]

Sounds good.

 

[Drago]

Absolutely... without including Xavier or their falling out (since this happens after Jean's recruitment, chances are the X-Men will be present for it) I don't think this movie really has a chance.

We already have a very good idea of Magneto's motivations and how they relate to their history... going back and trying to add more significant events than his holocaust intro and X1's playing off of that would be a bad idea in my opinion.

 

[micky-fox]

Hmm, it would definitely be interesting, but I'm not so sure this is the type of approach they'll take. It'll be more about his earlier days and he and Charles' personal issues. Just a thought.

 

[X-Gal123]

Yeah, I would love to see this. The movie should be about Magneto's life and this was a part of his life and character before he left the school because he no longer agreed with Charles' ideals.

 

[whitecrawler-->]

we should!it'd be really interesting

 

[chaseter]

This idea is very good...I hope we see it. Maybe see a young Charles and a young Storm, Cyclops, Jean, Beast, and whoever else the movieverse said was orginally there. I want to see Erik help Charles get the school up and going but I want to see their fallout with their freindship and Mags kicking some @ss.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Um... I don't like this idea... we should see Xavier starting the school but not recruiting the students... maybe a cameo of kid cyclops and storm but we already caught a glimpse in X3...

 

[FaT_tONle]

You see I don't think the relationship turned sour only 20 years ago... Magneto should form his brotherhood or hate humans at a very young age... I saw that first scene as just a request from Xavier to Magneto to help him recruit students to his school... I already think they had their differences... Just Magneto offered his help as assistance... I doubt even Magneto thought the school was a bad idea... Magneto should be evil in his young teenage years already...

 

[Drago]

You see I don't think the relationship turned sour only 20 years ago... Magneto should form his brotherhood or hate humans at a very young age... I saw that first scene as just a request from Xavier to Magneto to help him recruit students to his school... I already think they had their differences... Just Magneto offered his help as assistance... I doubt even Magneto thought the school was a bad idea... Magneto should be evil in his young teenage years already...

I don't think it will play out like that on film. X3 was meant to show them as friends, just like the "appreciate my thoughts about misuse of power/stop lecturing me" comments were to foreshadow a future falling out.

Plus, keep in mind, in X1 he commented about coming to America hopeful, and it's implied that the mutant registration act is the thing that finally sets him off and makes him act violent. He helped Charles build his school, and the film gives off the impression that X1 is when Magneto really begins to act on his mutant-superiority opinion. Senator Kelly in X1 is convincing the senate that mutants are dangerous and he lists what some can do- if Mags had done anything harnful it would have been mentioned there.

While him becoming violent and acting on it as a teenager could have a lot of potential, I don't see them doing that strictly for continuity.

 

[Drago]

I say involve Xavier, the school, the original x-men at a younger age, and have the fallout of Xavier and Mags coincide with Senator Kelly's rise to power and his swading of social opinion from mutants being accepted to mutants being a threat.

That way, while Xavier and everyone sticks with passive resistance, we see Magneto feeling truly threatened about a "second holocaust".

 

[Retroman]

The movie takes place from the 1930s to the 1950s. Most of the X-Men wouldn't have been born by then.

 

[X-Maniac]

I don't think it will play out like that on film. X3 was meant to show them as friends, just like the "appreciate my thoughts about misuse of power/stop lecturing me" comments were to foreshadow a future falling out.

Plus, keep in mind, in X1 he commented about coming to America hopeful, and it's implied that the mutant registration act is the thing that finally sets him off and makes him act violent. He helped Charles build his school, and the film gives off the impression that X1 is when Magneto really begins to act on his mutant-superiority opinion. Senator Kelly in X1 is convincing the senate that mutants are dangerous and he lists what some can do- if Mags had done anything harnful it would have been mentioned there.

While him becoming violent and acting on it as a teenager could have a lot of potential, I don't see them doing that strictly for continuity.

Fair points. But I imagine Magneto and the X-Men must have been active prior to the events of X1. Probably in a very covert capacity.

The X-Men already had a jet, uniforms, an underground base and Cerebro. Beast had been a member before the events of X1. They must have been doing something.

Xavier was 'thrown' by Magneto's psi-blocking helmet in X1, so it might have been the first time he'd used it. Or just the first time Xavier and Magneto had actually clashed. I can imagine Magneto and the Brotherhood being involved in various undercover operations previously, such as stealing metal and components for the mutation machine and island base.

 

[Darthkush]

The movie takes place from the 1930s to the 1950s. Most of the X-Men wouldn't have been born by then.

true, they have said that but it's not set in stone yet is it? There's still rewrites that will no doubt occur and more further when a director signs on.

I would love to see the first X-men as young kids in training. that would be cool. Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast and Storm I suppose. Only for movies purposes, Cyclops would probably be the last to join seeing as how he's clearly younger than the other three in the movieverse.

 

[Drago]

Fair points. But I imagine Magneto and the X-Men must have been active prior to the events of X1. Probably in a very covert capacity.

The X-Men already had a jet, uniforms, an underground base and Cerebro. Beast had been a member before the events of X1. They must have been doing something.

Xavier was 'thrown' by Magneto's psi-blocking helmet in X1, so it might have been the first time he'd used it. Or just the first time Xavier and Magneto had actually clashed. I can imagine Magneto and the Brotherhood being involved in various undercover operations previously, such as stealing metal and components for the mutation machine and island base.

Yea, I don't know if Xavier was just preparing for an inevitable battle or what with the uniforms and jet and everything.

I definitely agree on what you said about Magneto's helmet- I got the impression that Xavier was "keeping tabs" on him for a while and Magneto had just recently blocked Xavier because he's finally going to act.

I can see Magneto doing more covert things like trying to influence politics or something, but I can't see him doing violent things covertly- he wants his actions to be very public so they have a social impact.

Do you guys think Magneto sees himself as the "savior" of the mutant race? In X1 he wouldn't sacrifice himself for his cause- I don't think it was because of him not being committed to his cause, but because he sees himself as too important to the cause.

 

[Retroman]

true, they have said that but it's not set in stone yet is it? There's still rewrites that will no doubt occur and more further when a director signs on.

I would love to see the first X-men as young kids in training. that would be cool. Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast and Storm I suppose. Only for movies purposes, Cyclops would probably be the last to join seeing as how he's clearly younger than the other three in the movieverse.

Maybe.It's still a magneto story so i think they should really focus on him and not the X-Men origins.

 

[BMM]

. . . I don't know about the birth of the X-Men . . . perhaps the birth of the Brotherhood.

 

[Cyclops]

Well, in the movie-verse, Magneto was integral to the birth of the X-Men. Or rather to the birth of the Institute - which is what we should see. I don't think this film should focus on Magneto solely. It should focus on Magneto ans Xavier and how they built the school and the obstacles they faced in doing so. We already know what we need to know about Magneto's childhood filmwise. Anything else is merely fluff.

 

[micky-fox]

Well, in the movie-verse, Magneto was integral to the birth of the X-Men. Or rather to the birth of the Institute - which is what we should see. I don't think this film should focus on Magneto solely. It should focus on Magneto ans Xavier and how they built the school and the obstacles they faced in doing so. We already know what we need to know about Magneto's childhood filmwise. Anything else is merely fluff.

But there is so much more about his childhood I think we need to see.

 

[Cyclops]

We saw everything we needed to see in the opening scene of the first film. Eh - v'ry - thing. What more do we need to see? More concentration camp stuff?

I want to see the development of Xavier's school. You can even have the twins in there if you want, but I don't think they'd be necessary. Magneto's past is not interesting enough to make a movie. Magneto's past as it relates to the foundation of the X-Men however, is perfect in this day and age of prequels.

 

[sag002]

i think it should have NOTHING about the x-men. IMO.

 

[Cyclops]

If it has nothing to do with the X-Men, then what's the point? Magneto on his own just doesn't make for an interesting solo film. We already know why he's evil, and let's face it - him falling in love with a human and having kids that got no mention in the entire X-Men trilogy would just seem awkward and out of place.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

If it has nothing to do with the X-Men, then what's the point? Magneto on his own just doesn't make for an interesting solo film. We already know why he's evil, and let's face it - him falling in love with a human and having kids that got no mention in the entire X-Men trilogy would just seem awkward and out of place.

we already know its not going to be based souly on magneto...

they've already mentioned it focusing on him , but will deal with him befriending xavier and the early adventures they incountered.. i really dont see how they could end the movie, without having them fall out and xavier creating the x-men

 

[whitecrawler-->]

. . . I don't know about the birth of the X-Men . . . perhaps the birth of the Brotherhood.

hell yeah!bring back the toad!

 

[GL1]

If it's set too far before X1, then no CHARACTERS should be introduced, but the settings... specifically the institute, though Muir Island would also be important. Heck, if it was up to me I'd make Bishop, incognito, a character in the movies.

That said, I don't think Magneto's children are a problem for the 'origional trilogy' provided their absence from the trilogy is adequately explained... if they are taken in by the government, or are presumed dead, there is no reason for them to turn up in X1, 2 or 3...