The Wolverine Should Wolverine 3 be rated R?

[MessiahDecoy123]

With Deadpool on track to be the biggest X-men movie of all-time there's talk of Wolverine 3 getting an R rating?

Is this a much needed step in the right direction or a recipe for disaster?

 

[CB Fan]

We've been waiting to see Wolverine go full on Berserker Rage without them having to edit him and now we'll be able to. As long as the movie is good people will go to see it again and again and many won't let an R-Rating stop them from bringing their kids as evidenced by deadpool.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Of course. The Wolverine should have been the game-changing film that got this whole R-rated discussion going. Throw Hugh a bone and give him the chance to have one iconic turn as Wolverine in the solo franchise before he leaves (or does X-Force).

 

[Sithborg]

If this is what Mangold intends, the hell yes. I NEED my super violent Logan vs Creed fight.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

To play devil's advocate, Deadpool is a break out hit not only because of bloody violence but because of the humorous shock value.

Wolverine's bloody berserker rage would be cool but will it really compensate for the lost audience under 17?

Honestly, the R rated comedy has a wider audience than the R rated gore fest.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

True, Wolverine is unlikely to break out like DP because of an R-rating. He clearly (after this past weekend) doesn't have the transcendent cross-appeal, but as die-hard fans of the character will tell you, the best (worst) of the character has yet to be seen outside the context of an X-Men film. It's more about creative integrity and capturing the essence of the character in all his glory more then it is box office.

I'd say an R-rated Wolverine film would at least make as much as the Wolverine if they market that aspect effectively. Not to mention making a superior film to the last outing.

 

[antonydelfini]

Maybe. Depends on the execution.

Wolverine is an ideal character for an R rated movie.

 

[BlackFox]

I think Deadpool lends himself to an R rating more because of the comedy as much as the violence than Wolverine and the last Wolverine was good in its own right so we know it can be done PG-13 but with the unrated extended edition it felt like thats where Hugh and Mangold wanted to take things so with the R rating they are free to explore and make Wolverine even more lethal than we have seen him so far.

I have more sympathy this time for those that will no doubt be upset by the change to character already established in PG-13 films, however I am extremely hyped myself to see what they can do with an R rated Wolvey film they can really take the gloves off this time.

 

[zeptron]

Is it necessary for Wolverine to be R-rated? Not really. Hell, most comic book movies really don't. The Wolverine was a good movie and that it was PG-13. An R-rating wouldn't really change anything other than making it more gory and increasing the use of the F-word.

 

[Sithborg]

Eh, the lose of the ninja fight hurts the film, imo.

 

[Loki882]

It's Jackman's last go-around as Wolverine (supposedly), it's supposedly based at least in part on Old Man Logan, and we've had TWO rated-R CBM's in the last two years that have done really well at the box office despite being rated-R. Also the unrated cut of TW was really good (and I say that as someone who quite liked the theatrical version overall).

So yes, make it an R this time.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

I say no because the rest of Hugh Jackman's Wolverine movies were not R rated. Keep it consistent.

 

[Typhoon22]

I say no because the rest of Hugh Jackman's Wolverine movies were not R rated. Keep it consistent.

lol this is a silly reason. Origins was so awful many people don't even associate it with the 2nd Wolverine movie. As far as I'm concerned The Wolverine is the first Wolverine movie and Hughs last one will be Wolverine 2. There is no consistency in Wolverine 1 compared to 2 so why care now. The last Wolverine movie, wether PG13 or R won't affect Wolverine's consistency one bit.

The Wolverine was flirting with its rating a lot of times. It felt more R than PG. Hugh and Mangold clearly wanted to go R but Fox didn't approve. And now they are considering it for all the wrong reasons like Gunn stated. But I don't care the reasons as long as the last Wolverine movie will be R. And hopefully it'll be good too. Perfect combo.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Is everyone seeing the articles coming out claiming the next film will be R? I'll admit, I never would have imagined Fox would have the guts to do an R-rated Wolverine. Pretty crazy.

 

[BlackFox]

lol this is a silly reason. Origins was so awful many people don't even associate it with the 2nd Wolverine movie. As far as I'm concerned The Wolverine is the first Wolverine movie and Hughs last one will be Wolverine 2. There is no consistency in Wolverine 1 compared to 2 so why care now. The last Wolverine movie, wether PG13 or R won't affect Wolverine's consistency one bit.

The Wolverine was flirting with its rating a lot of times. It felt more R than PG. Hugh and Mangold clearly wanted to go R but Fox didn't approve. And now they are considering it for all the wrong reasons like Gunn stated. But I don't care the reasons as long as the last Wolverine movie will be R. And hopefully it'll be good too. Perfect combo.

The decision to make it R was probably made before last weekend, its not just because of Deadpool's success this decision was made to make Wolverine R.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

lol this is a silly reason. Origins was so awful many people don't even associate it with the 2nd Wolverine movie. As far as I'm concerned The Wolverine is the first Wolverine movie and Hughs last one will be Wolverine 2. There is no consistency in Wolverine 1 compared to 2 so why care now. The last Wolverine movie, wether PG13 or R won't affect Wolverine's consistency one bit.

The Wolverine was flirting with its rating a lot of times. It felt more R than PG. Hugh and Mangold clearly wanted to go R but Fox didn't approve. And now they are considering it for all the wrong reasons like Gunn stated. But I don't care the reasons as long as the last Wolverine movie will be R. And hopefully it'll be good too. Perfect combo.

Just because you don't consider movies that were made and exist part of canon doesn't mean they aren't.

The Wolverine movies are part of the Xmen movie universe. Period. There's been 7 movies with this character, none of which are rated R. That's the point.

 

[Sithborg]

And? They aren't allowed to experiment a bit?

I mean, let's talk seriously, do you think The Wolverine would've been seriously hurt be an R rating? Any more than it already was.

A Wolverine movie doesn't have to be R, sure. But, there is nothing wrong with making an R rated movie either. The character is able to do both.

 

[Typhoon22]

The decision to make it R was probably made before last weekend, its not just because of Deadpool's success this decision was made to make Wolverine R.

You are probably right but let's be honest here. The success of Deadpool (which went through so many obstacles because of Fox and was almost never going to be done) surely must have helped to pursuade Fox to let Wolverine be R.

 

[BlackFox]

You are probably right but let's be honest here. The success of Deadpool (which went through so many obstacles because of Fox and was almost never going to be done) surely must have helped to pursuade Fox to let Wolverine be R.

True and if Deadpool turned out to be a flop maybe those flyers dont come out in the open quite so quickly if at all . It was clearly in the thinking in the last film but the last year has cemented it.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Just because you don't consider movies that were made and exist part of canon doesn't mean they aren't.

The Wolverine movies are part of the Xmen movie universe. Period. There's been 7 movies with this character, none of which are rated R. That's the point.

Yeah, they're part of the universe. And then the universe did weird time travel stuff and they no longer exist. So they exist as a part of an erased universe.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I like the thought of R rated Old Man Logan-based Wolverine story. And yeah, even without the rest of the Marvel characters throughout.

The general idea can remain the same. They just have to hit a few important queues.
1. Logan is tricked into doing something/killing someone in a bloodlust who was important to him. (doesnt have to be mysterio)
2. He vows never to kill again. Time passes and he starts a family OR becomes a recluse. The world is going to crap. (Mad Max with mutants?)
3. Someone kills his family/an innocent he's fond of. (can be Omega Red gang members instead of Hulk's kids)
4. He hitches a ride with an old friend, Gambit? Mystique? Deadpool? And seeks revenge.
5. His trajectory takes him on a path to doing a greater good for the world. He takes down a villain akin to Red Skull (Omega Red/Gorgon/Stryker?)

No matter what though, Rated-R makes all that stuff sound awesome.

 

[MadVillainy]

I really dont get why people want WOlverine to be R rated so bad.

X2 had a great Wolverine rampage and was PG13 DOFP had that cool Wolverine vs Mobster fight scene and was rated PG13.

Should it be R? If that's what Mangold intends to do then sure, but I dont think making it R is going to magically make it better than if it was PG13. Contrary to someone like Deadpool, Watchmen, The Punisher, etc. I dont think blood, cursing, nudity, is going to improve anything about The Wolverine character

I mean the R rated rampage in The Wolverine didn't make the movie any better to me.

This all being said. I will not complain if it's R rated. I mean I'm over 17 so it's not like I have to worry about getting into the theater. I just don't really care either way and i dont think an R rating will make the movie any better.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I really dont get why people want WOlverine to be R rated so bad.

X2 had a great Wolverine rampage and was PG13 DOFP had that cool Wolverine vs Mobster fight scene and was rated PG13.

Should it be R? If that's what Mangold intends to do then sure, but I dont think making it R is going to magically make it better than if it was PG13. Contrary to someone like Deadpool, Watchmen, The Punisher, etc. I dont think blood, cursing, nudity, is going to improve anything about The Wolverine character

I mean the R rated rampage in The Wolverine didn't make the movie any better to me.

This all being said. I will not complain if it's R rated. I mean I'm over 17 so it's not like I have to worry about getting into the theater. I just don't really care either way and i dont think an R rating will make the movie any better.

That's still the best Wolverine bezerker moment. No film has matched that yet aside from perhaps the unrated The Wolverine.

Wolverine for some reason became neutered in his fighting after X2.

I'm not someone who's saying this film has to be rated R but why the hell not? What is there to lose at this point? It's the last outing and it's not like the the last 2 Wolverine solo's at pg-13 were box office gold at that rating.

 

[eon001]

People are so used to seeing Wolverine as PG 13 they forget he's actually an R rated character that was toned down to cross over and sell toys. The guy has 6 razor sharp claws in in arms for crying out load. Sick of seeing him tear through cyborgs, robots and sentinels. Give me blood for at least one film. My favorite version I've seen of Wolverine was the opening cut scene to the Wolverine origins game. check it out -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPYnzm_EME4

[YT]tPYnzm_EME4[/YT]

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

People are so used to seeing Wolverine as PG 13 they forget he's actually an R rated character that was toned down to cross over and sell toys. The guy has 6 razor sharp claws in in arms for crying out load. Sick of seeing him tear through cyborgs, robots and sentinels. Give me blood for at least one film. My favorite version I've seen of Wolverine was the opening cut scene to the Wolverine origins game. check it out -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPYnzm_EME4

[YT]tPYnzm_EME4[/YT]

that was a great game. hard to believe that the game adaption turned out to be way better than the actual film