Siegel & Shuster vs WB: Superman and Infinite Crisis

[Super Kal]

I see no problem with Singer pulling from the comics... in fact, I support it.

 

[lexlives]

did they really said that?

and p.s.. its not about to belive if \S/JcDc\S/ is telling the truth. its about if the guy who said to him was telling the truth. and about the other thread lexlives. its a thread whrere a guy is saying that the grandparents were talking with him and told him that tristan is testin rigs in 2006. now i am not saying that they guy made this up. its just that grandparents are old. and some of them are crazy. tristans are one of them. he is testing the rigs now? you dont have to be older than 5yr old to know that this is all bull....it.

Both threads are second hand sources and both posters I will assume believe what they are being told. I find both reports suspicious in different ways and again will go by what Singer or D&H or WB are quoted as saying about a possible sequel.

I don't doubt \S/JcDc\S/ is telling the truth as to what someone who claims to know the "truth" is telling him.

Over at BT last year with connections to Singer and WB the owner painted a picture and laid expectations that turned out to not be true. There was a thread about that at BT not long ago. If BT got it wrong with all their supposed connections, and they did, why should any of us beleive any of these 'connected' posts?

 

[dark_b]

\S/JcDc\S/ is saying what the writters want to do. the other thread is how tristan is testing the rigs.

come on.

 

[lexlives]

\S/JcDc\S/ is saying what the writters want to do. the other thread is how tristan is testing the rigs.

come on.

He is saying what someone is saying the writers want to do. Sorry, I give neither any credibility at this stage.

What he is saying someone is saying is too convenient in a way. That is my problem with it. It is exactly what many naysayers would want to hear. Like I say too convenient.

If you really want to do "legit" corporate Lex, which by all means is the only way to go IMO - a la Shea and Rosenbaum - why do such an antithesis in the first film? Wasting all that time and effort before getting into a Lex for the new century so to speak.

 

[X Knight]

maybe....SR 2 will be a vague sequel to SR........who knows....

 

[dark_b]

He is saying what someone is saying the writers want to do. Sorry, I give neither any credibility at this stage.

What he is saying someone is saying is too convenient in a way. That is my problem with it. It is exactly what many naysayers would want to hear. Like I say too convenient.

If you really want to do "legit" corporate Lex, which by all means is the only way to go IMO - a la Shea and Rosenbaum - why do such an antithesis in the first film? Wasting all that time and effort before getting into a Lex for the new century so to speak.

what you dont understand is that 90% people in this thred know that there is a huge chance that the writters wontt use those ideas. it just what tehy think in januar. it means nothing now. but i am now not talking that i belive that teh teh writter will use those ideas. i am just saying that i belive that in januar he thought about the idea of having that kind of lex and maybe brianiac. the other thread is about how tristan in 2006 tested the rigs.


p.s. whait a minute. you are making fun of me and all other here. and i know this. damn dude you are really good. i think there are nto a lot of people like you. llike you are brainwashing us. you are very good but not good enough. t:

 

[Brainiac 2009]

 

[explode7]

^Hey look its Brainiac 2009 and his bro.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

I love how the intellectually inferior defend each other with weak comebacks.

Priceless.

 

[lexlives]

what you dont understand is that 90% people in this thred know that there is a huge chance that the writters wontt use those ideas. it just what tehy think in januar. it means nothing now. but i am now not talking that i belive that teh teh writter will use those ideas. i am just saying that i belive that in januar he thought about the idea of having that kind of lex and maybe brianiac. the other thread is about how tristan in 2006 tested the rigs.


p.s. whait a minute. you are making fun of me and all other here. and i know this. damn dude you are really good. i think there are nto a lot of people like you. llike you are brainwashing us. you are very good but not good enough. t:

I love the Superman mythos, you do too. Where you get the idea I am making fun of you or anyone is beyond me. As to brainwashing, the only ones I would want to "brainwash" are Singer and WB.

I don't make fun of other super-fans. I call them out when I think, my opinion, they are wrong. The problem is not brainwashing - it is probabkly that I love the character too much.

We disagree, but I respect that and would never make fun - its not like there are a ton of Superman lovers out there.

 

[The Punisher]

wow.

After whining a *****ing about getting coporate lex and a villain, it seems we're getting those things....and some of you still find reason to whine and complain.

So? If they don't like an idea, they don't like it. They're entitled to their opinion and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[PSU442]

at the very least, I really think Lex could start swinging public opinion against Supes..... I mean, NK could easily be blamed on him... as could Zod & Co. The government could easily see Superman as the problem.

 

[Pickle-El]

It's funny how there was a thread created about how great Raimi was because he listened to the fans and included Venom in SM3. But, if Singer listens to the fans, then it's just an admission of the mistakes he made with SR . I have stated that I thought Singer should have lifted more ideas from the comics for SR and if he is doing it now for the sequel, then I am happy. Lets be fair here.

Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner folks.

Thanks for what you got us Jc!

 

[buggs0268]

well i am not a smart guy and i dont know how those reporters work. but isnt lois a good reporter? are you now gonna tell me that a good reporter would writte an article that she was on lex's yacht and that he was the one who created this island? and people would belive this? i thought that reporters are working with facts and need to have something to back up.

as i saw lex in sr did nothing in public to go to jail. so he is a free man. and that is what i like. lex can say when he comes back to metropolis f... you superman.

No. She was a witness when Lex, with a few maps showing it, and poking a piece of Kryptonite into her face, laid out his plan to create this island of Kryptonite which will grow and destroy the world. He knowingly said he would kill millions of people. SHE IS A WITNESS. Then he launched the thing which cracked the ocean floor, and did major property damage to Metropolis. Then he created a big landmass which was growing and going to flood most of North and South America, and Europe. But he actually did go through with his plan and launched the K missle and created New K and did the hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage to Metropolis. So, minus being a reporter, the facts are that. That is enough to put Lex away for life. Guys who plotted but didn't carry out blowing up airplanes in Europe last year are in jail now over there. There is no way that Lex would be elected president. the stuff he did in STM, which is in the "vague History" would be politcial fodder against him. In the comics he was a captain of industry who's crimes could never be traced back to him. In this film series, he is already a convicted crimminal. Somehow, I don't think a guy who hijakced two nuclear missles and tried to sink the west coast, in which people were killed during that earthquake for a landscheme would be someone that people would want to put into the whitehouse.

In any event, Lois' testimony of what Luthor said he was going to do, and then carried out, is enough to put him back in jail for life. Also, he violated a ton of international laws doing what he did also. She wouldn't just be writing an article. She would have to go to the FBI and talk to the agents, and it would probably also end up being a UN issue if that island was far enough into international waters. And also, since Lois was the only witness to Lex laying out his scheme to her, she is also a material witness:

material witness a witness whose testimony is not only relevant to the matter in issue, but also without which the matter may not be resolved. The government may hold a material witness, whether the victim or an eyewitness, against his or her will in order to insure his or her presence at trial.

You can also count Richard, who was trapped with Lois and Jason, in Luthor's yacth, which was in the vacinity of the island thing and where it sunk. The missle launcher was bolted to the front of his yacht, and the military can take a dsrv down to the wreckage and take pics to confirm that it was on the ship. So that ties Luthor with an ilegal Russian missle launcher bolted to the front of his ship.

Oh lets not forget the thousands of people in the city and stood there watching this big landmass being lifted up and pushed into space.

 

[bosef982]

Both threads are second hand sources and both posters I will assume believe what they are being told. I find both reports suspicious in different ways and again will go by what Singer or D&H or WB are quoted as saying about a possible sequel.

I don't doubt \S/JcDc\S/ is telling the truth as to what someone who claims to know the "truth" is telling him.

Over at BT last year with connections to Singer and WB the owner painted a picture and laid expectations that turned out to not be true. There was a thread about that at BT not long ago. If BT got it wrong with all their supposed connections, and they did, why should any of us beleive any of these 'connected' posts?

He is saying what someone is saying the writers want to do. Sorry, I give neither any credibility at this stage.

What he is saying someone is saying is too convenient in a way. That is my problem with it. It is exactly what many naysayers would want to hear. Like I say too convenient.

If you really want to do "legit" corporate Lex, which by all means is the only way to go IMO - a la Shea and Rosenbaum - why do such an antithesis in the first film? Wasting all that time and effort before getting into a Lex for the new century so to speak.

I love the Superman mythos, you do too. Where you get the idea I am making fun of you or anyone is beyond me. As to brainwashing, the only ones I would want to "brainwash" are Singer and WB.

I don't make fun of other super-fans. I call them out when I think, my opinion, they are wrong. The problem is not brainwashing - it is probabkly that I love the character too much.

We disagree, but I respect that and would never make fun - its not like there are a ton of Superman lovers out there.

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[bosef982]

Both threads are second hand sources and both posters I will assume believe what they are being told. I find both reports suspicious in different ways and again will go by what Singer or D&H or WB are quoted as saying about a possible sequel.

I don't doubt \S/JcDc\S/ is telling the truth as to what someone who claims to know the "truth" is telling him.

Over at BT last year with connections to Singer and WB the owner painted a picture and laid expectations that turned out to not be true. There was a thread about that at BT not long ago. If BT got it wrong with all their supposed connections, and they did, why should any of us beleive any of these 'connected' posts?

He is saying what someone is saying the writers want to do. Sorry, I give neither any credibility at this stage.

What he is saying someone is saying is too convenient in a way. That is my problem with it. It is exactly what many naysayers would want to hear. Like I say too convenient.

If you really want to do "legit" corporate Lex, which by all means is the only way to go IMO - a la Shea and Rosenbaum - why do such an antithesis in the first film? Wasting all that time and effort before getting into a Lex for the new century so to speak.

I love the Superman mythos, you do too. Where you get the idea I am making fun of you or anyone is beyond me. As to brainwashing, the only ones I would want to "brainwash" are Singer and WB.

I don't make fun of other super-fans. I call them out when I think, my opinion, they are wrong. The problem is not brainwashing - it is probabkly that I love the character too much.

We disagree, but I respect that and would never make fun - its not like there are a ton of Superman lovers out there.

 

[bosef982]

Both threads are second hand sources and both posters I will assume believe what they are being told. I find both reports suspicious in different ways and again will go by what Singer or D&H or WB are quoted as saying about a possible sequel.

I don't doubt \S/JcDc\S/ is telling the truth as to what someone who claims to know the "truth" is telling him.

Over at BT last year with connections to Singer and WB the owner painted a picture and laid expectations that turned out to not be true. There was a thread about that at BT not long ago. If BT got it wrong with all their supposed connections, and they did, why should any of us beleive any of these 'connected' posts?

He is saying what someone is saying the writers want to do. Sorry, I give neither any credibility at this stage.

What he is saying someone is saying is too convenient in a way. That is my problem with it. It is exactly what many naysayers would want to hear. Like I say too convenient.

If you really want to do "legit" corporate Lex, which by all means is the only way to go IMO - a la Shea and Rosenbaum - why do such an antithesis in the first film? Wasting all that time and effort before getting into a Lex for the new century so to speak.

I love the Superman mythos, you do too. Where you get the idea I am making fun of you or anyone is beyond me. As to brainwashing, the only ones I would want to "brainwash" are Singer and WB.

I don't make fun of other super-fans. I call them out when I think, my opinion, they are wrong. The problem is not brainwashing - it is probabkly that I love the character too much.

We disagree, but I respect that and would never make fun - its not like there are a ton of Superman lovers out there.

 

[bosef982]

double post

 

[green]

No. She was a witness when Lex, with a few maps showing it, and poking a piece of Kryptonite into her face, laid out his plan to create this island of Kryptonite which will grow and destroy the world. He knowingly said he would kill millions of people. SHE IS A WITNESS. Then he launched the thing which cracked the ocean floor, and did major property damage to Metropolis. Then he created a big landmass which was growing and going to flood most of North and South America, and Europe. But he actually did go through with his plan and launched the K missle and created New K and did the hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage to Metropolis. So, minus being a reporter, the facts are that. That is enough to put Lex away for life. Guys who plotted but didn't carry out blowing up airplanes in Europe last year are in jail now over there. There is no way that Lex would be elected president. the stuff he did in STM, which is in the "vague History" would be politcial fodder against him. In the comics he was a captain of industry who's crimes could never be traced back to him. In this film series, he is already a convicted crimminal. Somehow, I don't think a guy who hijakced two nuclear missles and tried to sink the west coast, in which people were killed during that earthquake for a landscheme would be someone that people would want to put into the whitehouse.

In any event, Lois' testimony of what Luthor said he was going to do, and then carried out, is enough to put him back in jail for life. Also, he violated a ton of international laws doing what he did also. She wouldn't just be writing an article. She would have to go to the FBI and talk to the agents, and it would probably also end up being a UN issue if that island was far enough into international waters. And also, since Lois was the only witness to Lex laying out his scheme to her, she is also a material witness:

material witness a witness whose testimony is not only relevant to the matter in issue, but also without which the matter may not be resolved. The government may hold a material witness, whether the victim or an eyewitness, against his or her will in order to insure his or her presence at trial.

You can also count Richard, who was trapped with Lois and Jason, in Luthor's yacth, which was in the vacinity of the island thing and where it sunk. The missle launcher was bolted to the front of his yacht, and the military can take a dsrv down to the wreckage and take pics to confirm that it was on the ship. So that ties Luthor with an ilegal Russian missle launcher bolted to the front of his ship.

Oh lets not forget the thousands of people in the city and stood there watching this big landmass being lifted up and pushed into space.

Eh, I think you'd just need something big that swayed the publics opinion. Say Luthor invents a cure for cancer from what he learned from the Kryptonian technology, you could easily make him a Nobel Prize winner and completely win over the world.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Lex Luthor saves the world.

I have a strong feeling the sequel will be Superman and Lex teaming up against Brainiac with Lex getting all the credit.

I dont think they will pit Lex against Superman so soon after SR.

 

[Super Kal]

Lex Luthor saves the world.

I have a strong feeling the sequel will be Superman and Lex teaming up against Brainiac with Lex getting all the credit.

I dont think they will pit Lex against Superman so soon after SR.

you know, if you really think about it, they did that for the shortest time in Superman II...

But I completely support the idea, with Lex having a side agenda of acquiring more technology so he can become that business tycoon and create LexCorp

 

[explode7]

I love how the intellectually inferior defend each other with weak comebacks.

Priceless.

Yeah I agree especially the person who posted this pic.

He's the king of the intellectually inferiors.

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

Yeah right, Lex goes from ****** to genius from one to the next movie. Very believeable!

What's next? Superman acting like an adult? Bosworth acting like Lois? The stupidity in the story replaced with logic?

Newsflash >>> TOO LATE FOR THAT!

They have to continue with the universe set up in the first movie. Otherwise they loose the people who liked the first one and have to establish a new fanbase, again. They might as well just restart the damn thing!

LOL!

Agreed.

 

[explode7]

^ Me too.

 

[lexlives]

Yeah right, Lex goes from ****** to genius from one to the next movie. Very believeable!

What's next? Superman acting like an adult? Bosworth acting like Lois? The stupidity in the story replaced with logic?

Newsflash >>> TOO LATE FOR THAT!

They have to continue with the universe set up in the first movie. Otherwise they loose the people who liked the first one and have to establish a new fanbase, again. They might as well just restart the damn thing!

You have a good point. If this were all true it would be a mini-restart. Of course w/o restarting the one elelment that they should be and that is eliminating the kid.

But, if they plan on major changes then why not just re-boot?