Sequels Sinister Six for Spidey 6, Who Wants It?

[mjbull23]

Aside from the idea of having six villains gang up on one hero, logistically i think it would make it extremely difficult to assign any given amount of significant screen time for purposes of developing each of the characters.. we know that three was obviously too much for spiderman three, and that movie runs over 2 1/2 hrs

 

[Venom 1988]

Christ this thread is old...

 

[Chris Wallace]

Aside from the idea of having six villains gang up on one hero, logistically i think it would make it extremely difficult to assign any given amount of significant screen time for purposes of developing each of the characters.. we know that three was obviously too much for spiderman three, and that movie runs over 2 1/2 hrs

The idea is that the characters would already be developed. Every variation of the S6 story has happened only after the villains had already been introduced & established. Maybe one or two would have to be intro'd in the selfsame movie, but the rest we'd already know.

 

[Jick]

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[HughJackFan420]

The idea is that the characters would already be developed. Every variation of the S6 story has happened only after the villains had already been introduced & established. Maybe one or two would have to be intro'd in the selfsame movie, but the rest we'd already know.

I agree and by the way didn't I already make a thread for this?

Anyways my idea of how they should do the sin 6 is intoduce them along with the kingpin being behind saving the villains in the previous movies that could've possibly escaped death like doc ock, venom, somehow they would have brainwash sandman since he want soft on spidey but that's 4 right there inluding kingpin I imagine their gonna do some character development with lizard in spidey 4 so there's 5 villains now the 6th should introduced developed through spidey 4 and 5 someone coolk like electro or a classic like vulture then in spidey 6 show how kingpin saved the villains and recruited them to introduce the sinister 6

 

[Spiderine]

nah the idea is horrid.

six is overkill, just used for the alliteration effect basically, same as fantastic four, it has a better ring to it.

there's no superhero out there that requires a rogue of six of his toughest villains in order to bring him down, especially when the feat has been done on a one-on-one basis before.

to me, if you are going to go out and do something against an individual, do it Kraven style or last hunt style, no messing around with groupies, no distractions.

anything more than a band of three for a single hero is just silly and really demeans all villains involved.

villains teaming together should only occur against big hitting teams like fantastic four or the avengers/x-men. theere is no reason, no matter how much hate there is between them, no reason not to keep it professional against one dude.

look at how it was handled in the ultimate line, there were five of them, and they weren't even all necessary in capturing spidey and ringing him in. The five of them were taken out by the ultimates and spiderman.

even though they didn't share common goals, they all worked together professionally, even the big two of norman and ock, which would be like impossible to comprehend.

six is just overkill and for me, that's why it's a really bad idea. besides, it's not like they were the first bunch of villains to team up against someone...so it's not even an original good idea.

I TOTALLY agree. Sounds great for the cartoons but in a movie it will be a cornball fest. I say focus on no more than two villains at a time for the sake of a good story. He has his hands full with one villain at a time as it is. Don't over saturate the film.

 

[Venom 1988]

I agree and by the way didn't I already make a thread for this?

In case you didn't notice, this thread is almost 3 years old.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I say save the Sinister Six for the re-boot series. Who's gonna help Spidey? Venom? Sandman? Boring.

Unless Marvel can make a deal with Sony where they can cross-over. Which means Spider-Man could be in a potential Avengers sequel! That'd make me happy since I like the New Avengers alot.

 

[Mutagen]

I do not want to see the Sinister Six at all.

 

[Eelectro 2]

i'd love there to be a sinister 6 movie...but only if its 2 films. theres no way they could fit 6 new villains into a movie and have it make sense, and have origins and explanations of the bad guys. plus the 6 villains would have to be ones we haven't seen yet (no resurrecting already dead villains). my guess would be mysterio, vulture, chameleon, scorpion, rhino, and electro. if they are going to be using either morbius or lizard in part , that still allows there to be these 6 main villains to be used. plus those 6 villains wouldnt' be able to really fill a entire movie on their own, and their classic villains so it works for everybody. it would definetly haveto take place over 2 films. i would lvoe to see individual fights with all the villains as well as a group fight at the climax. obviously spidey coudln't take on all the villains at once on his own unless they started fighting each other, so bringing back sandman in the 2nd film as a help to spidey would further make the ending of sm3 even better. definetly would be a climax to the series, plus it ending on part 6 would be a nice round number

 

[Pagrebo]

Too bad they killed off Harry. His storyline of returning to help Peter in SM3 could have been more effectively utilized in a Sinister Six storyline. With Goblin and Doc Ock dead, it would have made perfect sense for Harry to be the leader of a group of super villains, only to turn against his "gang" when he realizes that he's not just trying to kill SM, he's trying to kill his best friend. The Six would need a leader, which would need to be introduced in SM4. My vote would be for Kraven. Sandman survived 3, and assuming Lizard is introduced in 4, we have three of the six. In 5 you could introduce two more and one more at the very beginning of 6 (Scorpion, Vulture, and Rhino get my votes). Throughout, Kraven is pooling Spidey's vanquished foes for an assault at the conclusion of 6. This is where Raimi's vision of sympathetic villains could pay off. Sandman and Lizard are already obvious in their conscientious leanings. Scorpion is also traditionally a sympathetic villain. Not sure how it would play out, but I could see numerous possibilities and twists.

 

[Artistsean]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

the Six in the 6th film would be a great send off and introduces a real challenge. He could barely stop one bad guy at a time in the films, so how will he stop six?

 

[QWoods]

Mysterio can be in Spidey 6 and make the illusion that all of Spidey's villains are back and together as the Sinister Six

 

[Chris Wallace]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

the Six in the 6th film would be a great send off and introduces a real challenge. He could barely stop one bad guy at a time in the films, so how will he stop six?

I care.

 

[The Joker]

I do,
I don't care if its not formed by Doc Ock, maybe Kraven forms it,
in the cartoon King Pin formed it.

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.

Indeed.

 

[Duskbyday]

Just because they both have six in thier names, doesnt mean it shouldn't be on that movie. Plus it must be so hard to have each character screen time.

 

[zeptron]

I care.

And that cartoon gang was the Insidious Six. The only proper members from the real Six in that were Ock and Mysterio.

Funny thing is Vulture another proper member replaced Mysterio later on.

 

[Venom 1988]

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[thejon93]

Avi Arad wants Sinister Six to fail.

 

[Construct]

I'm for it. I like to think that Sony licensed the character for 6 films for the purpose of including the Sinister Six in the sixth film.

I see the Six as being upgraded (with help from the Tinkerer), stronger, and/or smarter versions of villains that Spidey would have faced in the first 5 films to present a grand final(?) challenge for a visibly upgraded, stronger, and smarter Spider-Man. That way, the villains have actual meaning to Spider-Man and tie the films together.

Here's a vague image of how I see SM6:

Spoiler

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0606/cw5.jpg

I don't see his identity becoming public or Bullseye being involved, but at least the Six may know who he is.

 

[Artistsean]

I know everyone wants it as close to the comics as possible, but Doc Ock is dead.
So would you rather them cut out the Sinister Six idea all together just because Doc Ock can't possibly be the leader? Because then that means the idea that six of Spider-man's foes wont team up as one team to attack Spider-Man at once.

 

[The Joker]

Yes, I'd rather they left it out if they don't bring Ock back.

If it's not done right, then don't do it at all.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I know everyone wants it as close to the comics as possible, but Doc Ock is dead.
So would you rather them cut out the Sinister Six idea all together just because Doc Ock can't possibly be the leader? Because then that means the idea that six of Spider-man's foes wont team up as one team to attack Spider-Man at once.

Well look, this is one of many reasons why I’m not so fond of the direction Sam Raimi has taken the franchise, nor the process he has taken to formulate these stories.

Look, DocOck is the primary reason for the group. It’s not just that he’s the leader; it’s also the fact that he’s a field general as well… on the front lines. This is where having Kingpin(if Sony could get rights to the character), as someone had mention before, takes away from the group. He is neither a leader or a field general. Now only that, HobGoblin, as someone have mention as well, does not have the dynamics of a leader that commands any sense of respect, dominance, or fear from the others members of the team, to do his bidden.

That’s important, because DocOck has always possess the power of influence, in manipulating the team to do his bidden. Convincing them that they all have the same goal, when his in fact have always been a lot more involved than the others. That’s what would be missing without DocOck at the helm or what we won’t get with others leading the team. One of many reasons why I think it won’t ever happen if DocOck is truly suppose to be dead.

This is the price we all pay when the director does not even consider forward thinking, forward planning, as well as, killing off major(A-rated) villains.

 

[Lex Luthor]

If there is going to be a Sinister Six, then Ock has to be the leader. The Osborns are not team players.

Otto's history of being a team player leaves alot to be desired , however I agree that Ock should be the leader of the group if it's ever realized in a Spider-Man film.

Either get it right, or dont even bother.