Skepticism Regarding the Film - Part 7

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  1. Thread Manager

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]497661[/split]
     
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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]485019[/split]
     
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  3. Rowsdower!

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    They should when they're essential to the character's story though. Not having Kryptonite is like having a Batman universe with no Joker.
     
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  4. PerryYellow

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    @ Protar:

    It's a comic book movie and she's a superman level being.

    David Finch managed to make a WW costume that actually worse than the original or the biker costume she had in the 90ies. That's an accomplishment i guess.
     
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  5. BH/HHH

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    Spot on :up:
     
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  6. The Batman

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    I woudn't be surprised if he invents Kryptonite in this version. It would definitely make him look more impressive.
     
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  7. BH/HHH

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    Never even considered that, that would rock (no pun intended)
     
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  8. Boom

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    Not to mention the fact that he has Zod's body. No doubt experiments are to follow.
     
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  9. BH/HHH

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    Ooh suddenly it seems even more likely
     
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    Yes she's superhuman. But the film is clearly presenting her suit as armour, so when she then has no pants it's contradictory. Is it supposed to be a realistic re-imagining of the comic book suit or not?
     
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    Her design is based on the greek hoplites. They didnt wear pants either.
    First of all who said it's supposed to be "a realistic re-imagining of the comic book suit"?

    And secondly they just gave her a similar suit in the comics.

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    I completely disagree. The Joker is a fascinating and well rounded character who embodies themes of the story and drives the plot forward. Kryptonite is a plot device that makes Superman weak at the end of act 2 for reasons of movie. You don't need Kryptonite. You can do great Superman stories without Kryptonite and barely notice its absence. Kryptonite is not essential.
     
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    Her costume doesn't even look like armor to me. Just looks like a gilded leather bodice and skirt.
     
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    Fair dos about the hoplites. Although let's be honest, we know the real reason Wonder Woman is dressed like she is and that double standard is a whole issue on its own. At least we've got shirtless aquaman to balance it out a bit in the films :p
     
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    The real reason Marston (her creator) dressed her the way he did was to challenge his time's ideas and preconceptions about female sexuality, freedom and power.

    Successive artists like say Benes used her suit to their "heart's" desire. Others like Cliff Chiang, Dodson or Nicola Scott draw her with respect.
     
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    The only real worry I now have for this film is balancing the characters. Mostly balancing Batman, Lex, and Wonder Woman and making them all natural fit into the story without none of them feeling forced into it. I mean after Superman, those 3 are the 3 more important characters in DC and its important they don't seem rushed.

    Trust Terrio 100% with the script. Just want to see them all done great.
     
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    Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle!

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    I'm still holding out hope for Bizarro played by Cavill. Let the guy have some fun and really act as different characters.
     
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    Forever Evil proved Bizarro can have a serious, even touching role in a grounded, darker universe. I'd love to see it happen in the DCCU.
     
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    Haven't read it, so I can't make an opinion. But, I'd just like to see Cavill actually do something since the trailer just looks like the same zero personality dude from the first film and I found that to be boring. So, if him acting as Bizarro is one way for him to not do that, I'd like to see it.
     
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    I hope people aren't expecting Wonder Woman to have a role that is close to equalling Batman and Superman's roles in BvS. She's a supporting character who will clearly have some importance and impact to the story, but isn't going to receive the same level of focus as the big two, or possibly even Lex.
     
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    You can do great stories without it, but removing it entirely is removing a constant that has been present in every version of Superman to date. While it's not a character, it is Superman's one weakness (aside from being beat to death) and it is so well-known that people frequently refer to their weakness as their Kryptonite. To not have it is like making a movie about the life of Achilles where getting shot in the heel doesn't play into his death whatsoever.
     
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    Was I the only one who liked the "the red capes are coming!" line? I thought it was funny.
     
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    Yeah I liked it. I immediately got the reference; I think a lot of people missed it and if they did, it's understandable why it might have clicked with them.
     
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