Smallville VS Heroes; Who's having a worse season?

[Ratcrawler]

Smallville is no stranger to terrible writing, but I had a few high hopes for this season when I heard Millar and Gough were replaced. Boy was I wrong. It's not so much that Lex Luthor left the show to be replaced by a bland hot female who came out of nowhere while last season's bland hot female who came out of nowhere was Phantom Zoned and flung off into sPace. It's not even that Clark now works at the Planet and still doesn't wear glasses. It's their gaping holes in logic and unrealistic "real world" portrayals of their characters.

Oliver Queen gets stranded on a Desert Island years ago looking the same as the does now and lives there for two years with the same haircut and clean shaven face? Maxima teleports to Earth sPeaking perfect conversational English and kills a bunch of guys by kissing them while looking for a Kryptonian without maybe asking them first? Martian Manhunter flies a dying Clark Kent to the sun to restore his life and powers but in the process of flying dangerously close to this gigantic flaming ball loses his powers --when he was afraid of a lighter, btw-- and gets back to Earth how exactly? Now he's castrated and we'll probably never even see his real Martian form, just like we never saw Braniac with the dots on his head. At least we saw "vampire" Bizarro turn angular on occasions when exposed to sunlight but do I really wanna know where they're going with Doctor Doomsday?


Heroes on the other hand, seems to be drowning in it's own characters. Now a diverse cast is all well and good but we're only at season 3 and we have alternate futures and a new doomsday scenario to be resolved by sPring giving everybody more or less the same to do but in the orst ways possible. Either the characters don't develop at all or they take a completely illogical step backwards. I don't remember everything from the previous seasons and apparently, neither do the shows creators. But at least they're forgetting characters and plotlines with loose ends on purpose if only to drive forward this self depricating storyline which, let's face it, will be half ignored by season 4 and the other half will be made complicated to bejeezus and back.

Why are they bringing back Linderman as a ghost/psychosis and pretty much ignoring Monica and Micah? When did Mohinder become the dumbest scientist ever? Why does nothing Future Peter does make any sense? Why does future Claire go brunette? Why is an African Shaman lamenting his decision of not signing up with sPrint? All these questions and more will be...ignored, probably and made even more needlessly complicated in the season(s?) to come!

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Hmm I've seen both series so far. I don't like what there doing to Peter, Mohinder or Hiro.
Syler is the only one changing for the best and I used to not like him for crying out loud. I can't really tell so far yet.

 

[YoungE808]

I can't even watch Smallville after Heroes.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I've grown to love certain characters on SV even more this season in the few episodes we've had. In contrast, I've come to loath several characters on Heroes in the same span of time.

 

[carrrnuttt]

I at least get excited about what I get to see on Heroes on Mondays, while I almost have to force myself to watch Smallville recorded on my DVR.

Superman is supposed to have an above average intellect, yet we have Smallville's version who couldn't even put two-and-two together, when it's staring him in the face. And then, there's the scene with this season's deus ex machina (Chloe's newfound intelligence), where she was reading multiple monitors at a rapid rate, at the same time. They made it seem like Clark couldn't keep up, when he's supposed to be able to move so fast that everyone else seems to be frozen in time. Not only that, but he's supposed to be able to comprehend what's going on at these speeds.

 

[04nbod]

Its too early to say. Smallville definitely has more momentum as far as plot arc.

 

[chaseter]

Why are you making a dumb thread like this? Does it matter?

Close, delete, purge.

 

[Havok83]

I dont think either is having a bad season but if I had to vote, Id pick Smallville

 

[GL1]

Hmmm...

First of all, go ahead and drop us a line in the Gripes thread, OP.

Second, Smallville. Heroes, while being full of giant gaping plot and logic holes, is still entertaining and an improvement over last season on some level. Smallville is on a continuous fizzle and there's not a LOT of entertainment value left in it.

 

[Nivek]

Smallville by a long shot. At least Heroes isn't depowering and stupefying it's leads like Smallville has for years. We know what to expect from Superman, that is why it dissapoints. Heroes does not have the Mythology to butcher, it just makes it up as it goes along.

 

[GL1]

Smallville by a long shot. At least Heroes isn't depowering and stupefying it's leads like Smallville has for years. We know what to expect from Superman, that is why it dissapoints. Heroes does not have the Mythology to butcher, it just makes it up as it goes along.

Heroes IS depowering and stupefying its leads, for the second year in a row.
We know what to expect from Mohinder, Hiro, Peter, Gabriel, and even Claire from S1 which came together so masterfully it was obviously not made up as it went along.

The only thing that Heroes has going for it is production values and entertainment value due to a diverse (and rapidly de-diversifying) cast.

 

[ord0g]

They're both having horrendous seasons. Smallville is marginally better but if they keep going the way they are it's gonna burn into the ground mid way through, for me at least. Heroes really needs to step it up and I have faith that they can do it but it just feels like they're not sure what they want to do with or where to take the sheer number of characters they've created.

 

[November Rain]

let's watch both seasons before bashing them

now i'm not saying they won't be bash worthy by the end but give them an opportunity to flesh out first

 

[Hush]

Neither im enjoying both a great deal.

 

[GL1]

let's watch both seasons before bashing them

now i'm not saying they won't be bash worthy by the end but give them an opportunity to flesh out first

I think we can bash with the caveat that it may get better... there's nothing fallacious about pointing out giant logical flaws and a general lack of entertainment value in our entertainment..

 

[KingOfMars]

Neither im enjoying both a great deal.

smallville tends to be a lowrent version of the superman mythology and the dc universe, heroes has alot of holes in logic and a few in plot, but it tends to go places faster and treats the material serious, so the worst of heroes is better than any episode of smallville in any of its seasons imo.

 

[The Lizard]

I gave up on Smallville before Heroes even started.

 

[SuperT]

I've seen some of Smallville's worst episodes, and I have of course seen some of Heroes worst episode. I think watching a series worst episodes (as deemed by the viewers) is a good gauge for how good a television series is.

Most of Heroes "bad" episodes are better then the majority of Smallville's good ones. That's not a good thing. lol

When Heroes is bad, it's not really bad, just mediocre, but when Smallville is bad?! Man that thing REEKS!!

 

[SuperT]

whoops, double post

 

[marukisu]

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[Cmill216]

Heroes highs are higher than Smallville's highs. And Smallville's lows are lower than Heroes lows.

But, right now, I actually think Smallville has been less erratic this season. The new cast additions have all been solid, and the show has greatly improved from last season and we're only four episodes in.

With this season of Heroes, I'm in love with only half the show. Half of the storylines are amazing (Sylar, Claire, HRG, Peter). The other half (Mohinder, Nathan, ghost Linderman, Traci, Parkman) are just utter WTFs right now.

But I'm watching both. So......whatever.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm actually gonna say Heroes is having a worse season, since SV is acually improving, surprisingly. Heroes has way too many s***ty characters running around, wasting screentime. They ought to just call the show "The Petrelli's" since the Petrelli's are the only ones who interest me now.

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Heroes highs are higher than Smallville's highs. And Smallville's lows are lower than Heroes lows.

But, right now, I actually think Smallville has been less erratic this season. The new cast additions have all been solid, and the show has greatly improved from last season and we're only four episodes in.

With this season of Heroes, I'm in love with only half the show. Half of the storylines are amazing (Sylar, Claire, HRG, Peter). The other half (Mohinder, Nathan, ghost Linderman, Traci, Parkman) are just utter WTFs right now.

But I'm watching both. So......whatever.

I have to agree.

 

[Cmill216]

Im voting smallville because ive never seen it

This is why polls like this are never accurate representations of general fan reaction.

 

[SuBe]

I gave up on Smallville before Heroes even started.

Same here, too bad I bought seasons 1-6, now I don't even care, but I have to finish my collection.