Soap Box Rant Over Anything Comics

[Prognosticator]

Okay, so i've totally listened to all of the bendis-hating raves on SHH and taken them in objectively, for sometimes there are some great points!

...well, i went out to the "local" comicbook store and as much as i tried i absolutely couldn't walk out w/o purchasing every "House of M" and HofM "tie-in" issue throughout the Marvel U....

I get home and totally demolish the stack of books (I mean I read them), and guess what...to my surprise, I'm totally digging them! In fact, i'm loving the heck out of it! And of all the tie-ins, the actual New Avenger/Astonishing House of M is the best written! So far, I'm not thinking that Bendis has sucked it up too bad! Others have been way worse!!!

In fact, superfans never fall short of praising Chris Claremont's work on X-Men. I'll be the first to say he definately deserves his accollations as the best X-writer ever!...but his "Season of the Witch Art"??? What the crap is going on there?!?! Now i know why i've continued to stay away from the convoluted x-titles for so long? So far, it seems to be the weakest of the tie-ins.

Anyway, while i'm not the biggest fan of the "four issues of talk, one issue of action, one issue of epilogue" arc style that Bendis is known for, I am getting a thorough kick out of HofM...

Truth be told, i wouldn't have even bought them in the first place if so many people weren't criticizing it so blatantly. I guess it just goes to show that you have to read it and decide for yourself.

 

[Dwarf lord]

Wow... Another newbie telling us what to like.

 

[Prognosticator]

Give me a friggin' break w/the newbie crap. Just b/c I've only been petering around this place a few months doesn't make me any less book savvvvy. Plus, i'm not coming down on the haters or sturring the pot...or saying "what to like". I'm sure you know that though....with your 6,072 posts and all, that makes you way more classified to speak your mind. thanks for putting me in my place, DB

 

[Elijya]

Wow... Another newbie telling us what to like.

come on, DL, cool it with that. He is not, he's just saying he liked it, he disagrees with some of us, and doing it in a relatively polite way

I've read some of House of M, it's mildly entertaining, but nothing that will be remembered two years from now

 

[DBM]

I've read some of House of M, it's mildly entertaining, but nothing that will be remembered two years from now

I think this is an excellent point.

Very few of the "big events" in Marvel ever have any lasting impact. And House of M is just another mediocre story in a long line of mediocre stories (in my opinion) that are built up to a point they can never live up too.

The most impactful stories ever told by Marvel are the ones that didn't need hype, the ones that were able to stand on their own as great stories without hyperbole. The real classics.

Dark Phoenix Saga, Death of Jean Dewolfe, This Man This Monster, etc.

 

[Doc Destruction]

People really need to read AoA. House of M is pretty close to the EXACT same story, including the one-who-remembers-everything storyline.

 

[DBM]

People really need to read AoA. House of M is pretty close to the EXACT same story, including the one-who-remembers-everything storyline.

And I'd bet my collection that people will still be remembering AoA long after House of M is gone.

 

[Prognosticator]

It's true about the "big events". it's pretty introspective about the media today in general though. it's very representative of movies today, and award show, and some books and music. they can't last or make as big of an impact b/c the pressure to deliver doesn't hit as hard as the hype machine that preceeds it. Plus, so many ideas continue to get recycled that the newness of some events feels like a softer recreation of something old!! This much has been evident from my observation...but DC still throws me a bone every once in a while. A pretty darn tasty one at that!

 

[Dwarf lord]

come on, DL, cool it with that. He is not, he's just saying he liked it, he disagrees with some of us, and doing it in a relatively polite way

I've read some of House of M, it's mildly entertaining, but nothing that will be remembered two years from now

I guess I'm just getting annoyed. It seems that everywhere I look there's a person asking us why we hate Bendis. I really think there should just be a Bendis Fan Thread. It cuts the clutter. And I do admit Prognosticator is certainly one of the better ones unlike some others who I would rather not name. I suppose I should be nicer, I get the same crap on other boards for liking Loeb. Welcome to the hype, Pro.

 

[Prognosticator]

thanks a lot. I really can't stand a lot of his (bendis) work to be fair! I'm pretty half and half on loeb too. And that's not to say i'm mediocre b/c i'm very maticulous and picky. Thanks for giving me a break! i'll definately respect what you have to say.

 

[Dwarf lord]

thanks a lot. I really can't stand a lot of his (bendis) work to be fair! I'm pretty half and half on loeb too. And that's not to say i'm mediocre b/c i'm very maticulous and picky. Thanks for giving me a break! i'll definately respect what you have to say.

BTW, do you like JSA? If you haven't read it, get the first couple trades.

 

[Doc Destruction]

BTW, do you like JSA? If you haven't read it, get the first couple trades.

Oh God, yes...good advice.

 

[Prognosticator]

No, i've never got into JSA. i've never been sure if or where i'd want to start. Which trades are the first couple?

 

[Dwarf lord]

No, i've never got into JSA. i've never been sure if or where i'd want to start. Which trades are the first couple?

JSA Vol. 1: Justice Be Done
JSA Vol. 2: Darkness Falls
JSA Vol. 3: The Return of Hawkman

 

[iloveclones]

I'm going to agree with Pro, and disagree with you guys a little. I actually think HoM is holding up rather well. I've read all of these "events" over the years, starting with Secret Wars, through the "stories that ran through the Annuals", and Infinity fill-in-the-blank. And I think HoM will rank among or better than them. I liked AoA, so I don't know if I'll like it(or remember it) as much as that 10 years from now. But I like it better than most of those aforementioned.

Oh, and I liked those JSA TPBs too.

 

[Prognosticator]

So which is the preferible then, and this may be a matter of corn flakes or bran flakes but which TPB's are more satisfying: JSA or JLA?

 

[Dwarf lord]

Deffinantly JSA. Morrison's JLA was great and all, but it seemed to lack depth. JSA, while it may not have the big guns, you get to know the characters a bit better.

 

[Prognosticator]

Makes sense then. Well aren't the JSA or members being used in the "Vengence" mini, involving spectre? if i'm showing ignorance here it's b/c i haven't picked up any issues to read yet, and i can't remember for sure. I know shazam in it...

 

[Dwarf lord]

Shazam is a reserve member. It's unsure weather he'll stay after the current JSA arc.

 

[Prognosticator]

How far back in the DCU does the first three TPB's take place time/event wise?

 

[Dwarf lord]

I'm not sure. I know that the first couple take place a bit before Green Arrow comes back and before OWAW. I'm really not sure.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I'm going to agree with Pro, and disagree with you guys a little. I actually think HoM is holding up rather well. I've read all of these "events" over the years, starting with Secret Wars, through the "stories that ran through the Annuals", and Infinity fill-in-the-blank. And I think HoM will rank among or better than them. I liked AoA, so I don't know if I'll like it(or remember it) as much as that 10 years from now. But I like it better than most of those aforementioned.

Oh, and I liked those JSA TPBs too.

Well, for me, I keep forgetting HoM is even going on, to be honest. I remember pacing in front of my comic book store to get my hands on AoA stuff. I feel that way with Crisis tie-ins now, so I don't think it's that I'm jaded.

Secret wars was meh by the way.

 

[Prognosticator]

That's me completely. I passed over the House of M and jumped straight into the OMAC and Rann/Thang....Eventually i picked up HofM out of pure curiosity, but i am on the very edge of suspense with what DC is doing right now!

 

[Ben Urich]

I dropped around 5 or 6 Marvel titles to make room for the DC stuff that's going on right now.
Because in a few years, this **** at DC is actually going to matter.
The only thing from House of M that anyone's going to give a **** about in a few years is going to be the stupid variant covers and the ******* scalpers that buy them.

 

[Symbiotica]

Anyway, while i'm not the biggest fan of the "four issues of talk, one issue of action, one issue of epilogue" arc style that Bendis is known for, I am getting a thorough kick out of HofM...
Truth be told, i wouldn't have even bought them in the first place if so many people weren't criticizing it so blatantly. I guess it just goes to show that you have to read it and decide for yourself.

Nice attempt at reverse-psychology; unfortunately... I mean.... unfortunately.... what?... OH GOD!.... no, I mean really.... I'm serious, really.... NO!.... what? what did you say...? look!...over there...! ....where?!....

....seriously, the reverse-psychology angle has been tried before, and has never yet been known to work.