Superman Returns Solar Energy and Kryptonite...

[Justice Bringer]

From a Wikipedia article on Superman:

"The movie also proved that while Kryponite may disrupt his powers, if Superman absorbs sufficient solar energy, he can use his powers while in the presence of Kryptonite, as shown while lifting the Crystal Island to space."


Should this be incorperated into canon? The ability to defy the power-stripping effects of Kryptonite temporarily if extreme levels of solar energy are first absorbed?

The effect was only temporary however as Superman soon lost his powers.

Maybe theyll work this in on the next 'Science of Superman' doc.

 

[Steelsheen]

well there has been some comic stories that implies the same thing, so its already part of canon.

 

[El Payaso]

So that explains it all.

 

[Justice Bringer]

I figured there was some 'Verisimilitude' behind it after all the scientific stuff they mapped out about explaining Superman's powers.

 

[Qwerty©]

It makes sense. Kryptonite drains his solar energy, so a larger amount of solar energy would mean the kryptonite takes longer to kill him.

 

[bsquad]

I loved the film and I loved that part (Routh was on the freaking ball with the look on his face as he tries to toss a freaking continent) but what I thought abosolutely killed it is when they removed another small piece of kryptonite from his back when they were in the hospital. completly unneccesary.

 

[bsquad]

I loved the film and I loved that part (Routh was on the freaking ball with the look on his face as he tries to toss a freaking continent) but what I thought abosolutely killed it is when they removed another small piece of kryptonite from his back when they were in the hospital. completly unneccesary.

 

[Angeloz]

The small piece of kryptonite is what kept him unconscious when he crash landed and afterwards in the hospital. As well as what seemingly killed him briefly until they took it out. Then he probably had to recover from the poisoning as well as probably exhaustion 'cos he probably had no sleep doing rescues overnight (for Metropolis) the night before. As he didn't have an apartment for one.

Angeloz

 

[elgaz]

I think it was a realistic take on the situation. Too many people expect it to be 'black and white' - i.e., if he's near Kryptonite, he has no power .... and if he's near the Sun, he's at his full peak. Obviously there are grey areas in between where he will be weakened but still much stronger than your average human.

Once he absorbed the sun's rays he basically charged himself just enough to deal with the kryptonite-filled continent and fling it into space. There was the small matter of willpower too. Obviously as soon as he let it go and saw it drifting off (and guaranteed that Metropolis was safe) he gave in to his fatigue and kryptonite poisoning and immediately fell unconscious.

Gaz

 

[Lightning54SC]

until i see Digitalman's cut of SR i will then make up my mind if i this film can be saved

 

[Qwerty©]

until i see Digitalman's cut of SR i will then make up my mind if i this film can be saved

Saved? Do you consider yourself god or something?

 

[Lightning54SC]

Saved? Do you consider yourself god or something?

Sure why not...

 

[afan]

Curious for your opinions.......if the solar charging strategy in SR becomes canon as a possible defense against Green K, where does that leave the threat of some of Superman's most dangerous adversaries, Metallo to be exact, and the fail-safe Green K that Superman gave Batman.

 

[Lightning54SC]

hmmmmmm good point afan

 

[Justice Bringer]

It could be just as easy for him to wear an Anti-Kryptonite suit in the comics to protect himself from Metallo and Batman; actually easier that constantly flying up into the sun.

 

[Qwerty©]

Curious for your opinions.......if the solar charging strategy in SR becomes canon as a possible defense against Green K, where does that leave the threat of some of Superman's most dangerous adversaries, Metallo to be exact, and the fail-safe Green K that Superman gave Batman.

In the case of Batman I'm sure with his scientific prowess he could use the kryptonite effectively.

As for Metallo, well if Superman is still getting incapacitated by the same old trick after hundreds of encounters, then he deserves to be killed. If the writers do their job, then they shouldn't rely on kryptonite as a crutch.

 

[Justice Bringer]

As for Metallo, well if Superman is still getting incapacitated by the same old trick after hundreds of encounters, then he deserves to be killed.

Seriously.


But like Steelsheen said, this concept was already in the comics anyway. It does make sense within the science of Superman as Qwerty pointed out.

 

[afan]

It could be just as easy for him to wear an Anti-Kryptonite suit in the comics to protect himself from Metallo and Batman; actually easier that constantly flying up into the sun.

In SR he didn't fly up into the sun by any stretch, he flew above the cloud cover to bask in the sun for a moment only; certainly not a herculean effort for the Man of Steel and not much different than his exposure at any time by the way.
This thread proposes including that intensity of exposure as an ounce of prevention. Seems a bit mundane, un-exciting, and convenient methodology for Superman to negate his greatest enemy IMO.

 

[Justice Bringer]

In SR he didn't fly up into the sun by any stretch, he flew above the cloud cover to bask in the sun for a moment only; certainly not a herculean effort for the Man of Steel and not much different than his exposure at any time by the way.
This thread proposes including that intensity of exposure as an ounce of prevention. Seems a bit mundane, un-exciting, and convenient methodology for Superman to negate his greatest enemy IMO.

"into" was prolly the wrong word. "towards" would be better

constantly using Kryptonite to weaken the character week after week could be considered convenient, mundane and repetitive too.

I think this adds a new dimension to it; but at the same time (from the standpoint of the films) I strongly doubt Kryptonite will ever be used as a major threat against Superman again in the future film sequels.

Superman already took on a Kryptonite continent, you cant top that.

 

[afan]

constantly using Kryptonite to weaken the character week after week could be considered convenient, mundane and repetitive too.

Absolutely, positively agree with this, and that's the problem, the over use of kryptonite in Superman stories. We don't need any new contrivance allowing Superman to withstand it's effect, we need less use of it as a weapon against Superman.

It should remain a very serious and potentially lethal threat to the Man of Steel, but it should not be as available as a hand gun to criminals. Kryptonite should be extremely rare on Earth and very very difficult to come by.

It's one of my main concerns with "Smallville"; it's everywhere in that telling of the tale. Stick a shovel in the ground and you probably will hit Green K!!!

 

[November Rain]

i never thought kryptonite drained superman's powers, he merely became weak due to the radiation, green kryptonite doesn't affect his ability to use his powers, it merely makes it harder for him to acess them because he is physically weak/dying from the radiation affects.

notice when supes was throwing the planet out from earth, he was in space and therefore much closer to the sun than he was before, yet he still plummets to the earth.

my explanation is that the dose of radiation emitted from the small piece of kyrptonite in him was pretty tiny and his determination to save the earth in conjunction with the solar charge (and thus adrenaline boost) was sufficient to get the job done.

 

[afan]

i never thought kryptonite drained superman's powers, he merely became weak due to the radiation, green kryptonite doesn't affect his ability to use his powers, it merely makes it harder for him to acess them because he is physically weak/dying from the radiation affects.

notice when supes was throwing the planet out from earth, he was in space and therefore much closer to the sun than he was before, yet he still plummets to the earth.

my explanation is that the dose of radiation emitted from the small piece of kyrptonite in him was pretty tiny and his determination to save the earth in conjunction with the solar charge (and thus adrenaline boost) was sufficient to get the job done.

That's my understanding also, however close exposure to Green K incapacitates him to such an extent that it is impossible for him to use his "active" powers at all. Passive powers, i.e, invulnerability, tho still protects him from harm.

Which totally doesn't jibe with the effect in SR, as the beating and subsequent stabbing would be impossible.

 

[November Rain]

there's always been artistic license associated with kryptonite

to be honest, i doubt there is a definitive aspect to it..

it's like wolverine's healing factor and fighting abilities are completely dependant on who is writing him and have no real baring on any past stories.

same goes with supes and kryptonite

 

[afan]

there's always been artistic license associated with kryptonite

to be honest, i doubt there is a definitive aspect to it..

it's like wolverine's healing factor and fighting abilities are completely dependant on who is writing him and have no real baring on any past stories.

same goes with supes and kryptonite

So true............but the effect of Green K as we understand it is the desirable IMO, as it does not allow for the proliferation of K bullets K knives K weapons etc. Superman may be dying under it's exposure but he's not defenseless. It eliminates the....."OK he's down so why not just shoot him" kind of argument.

 

[Justice Bringer]

It's one of my main concerns with "Smallville"; it's everywhere in that telling of the tale. Stick a shovel in the ground and you probably will hit Green K!!!

Well, the shows camp. Its not meant to be taken that seriously or logically anyways.