Sound in Watchmen

[Everything boy]

This is my first new thread, and I'm a rambler so bear with me. I thought of this a long time ago but I just joined this forum and I didn't see anyone else mention it, its concerning sound and watchmen. I was reading an article about a year (maybe more) ago about blind people who are getting hit by hybrids, why? because when in electric mode they don't create as much sound as a gasoline powered car. This got me to thinking about the way the world in the book sounds. Of course the cars would have a slight electric "whrrr" but that one thing that got me thinkng about all sorts of sound in their world. First would we be listening to any hippie sixties music if we had won the Vietnam war if the hippies were not proven right. What would Pale Horse and Kristalnact sound like? I fear that this great opportunity for creativity will be overlooked by the makers of this movie because it would be too difficult to develop, confusing and too easy to screw up.

Discuss

p.s. can anyone listen to "all along the watchtower" without thinking of this book when he says "outside in the cold distance, a wildcat did growl, two riders were approaching, and the wind began to HOWL"

 

[hbw60]

I think the cars will definitely have an electric sound to them, because the book clearly established the new forms of transportation.

As for the music, it's a tricky subject. Your theory is very interesting - the altered past would certainly have affected music of the era. But you're right, it would be confusing. I don't think people would get it.

And really, even though the US won the Vietnam War, the same problems were still facing the world of Watchmen. The "feel" of the book is similar to the Vietnam era. Even though the US won, it didn't really help the country, you know? The people were given new problems to deal with. So the spirit of things would remain the same for the most part.

 

[joke]

Actually, from some of the set photos, it seems like the cars in the movie universe of Watchmen run on regular gas.

The US didn't win the war, Manhattan did. And from what I can remember, he didn't interfere in the beginning, in which case the casualties and atrocities would've happened and in that case, the hippies would've also been "right" in the movie universe.

 

[Doctor Jones]

For music, Snyder says it's very cultural, so I'm guessing there's gonna be alot of period hits like the use of them in Forrest Gump.

As for the score, I'm really anzious to hear that.

Wouldn't it be interesting if there was no score at all? I know I could be wrong though.

 

[Shivsguy616]

Actually, from some of the set photos, it seems like the cars in the movie universe of Watchmen run on regular gas.

That would be a pointless plot deviation. The electric cars gave a very nice moment between Manhattan and Night Owl.

 

[Everything boy]

The US didn't win the war, Manhattan did. And from what I can remember, he didn't interfere in the beginning, in which case the casualties and atrocities would've happened and in that case, the hippies would've also been "right" in the movie universe.

Sorry but when I see Nixon waving in Saigon, Vietnam becoming the 51st state, no hippies on the streets, and Woodward and Bernstein in a dumpster, I think the US won. Also I think we are going to have more confusion on this because the film would like you to believe that Manhattan and the govt. are very separate entities but he received the command directly from Nixon. Also I'm not saying the hippies weren't "right" to oppose violence I'm just saying the fall of Saigon and Watergate created the ultimate "I told you so" in our universe, this does not occur there.

I don' think I get you though when you say the thing about atrocities did you mean that they did or didn't happen? because I think Moore put his intervention in early '71 to make sure My Lai still occured

 

[Everything boy]

Thar would be a pointless plot deviation. The electric cars gave a very nice moment between Manhattan and Night Owl.

It wouldn't be pointless (nobody want to CG all of those pipes and fumes) but it would be sad and whack. It's part of their universe and it would suck to see it go. (does anyone else love the fact that these universes seem to spring from Moore's mind fully-formed, like Athena from her fathers head?)

Now that I think, it may have a point because somewhere I think I heard that the ending explosions occur at some sort of "renewable energy stations" which makes more sense if you're planet is running on it's dwindling supplies of oil

 

[Shivsguy616]

It wouldn't be pointless (nobody want to CG all of those pipes and fumes) but it would be sad and whack. It's part of their universe and it would suck to see it go. (does anyone else love the fact that these universes seem to spring from Moore's mind fully-formed, like Athena from her fathers head?)

I doubt they do. I can write a nicely formed alternate universe too, but it becomes more complete with every revision. I highly doubt that he just spewed out watchmen "fully formed".

 

[S.D. Plissken]

This is my first new thread, and I'm a rambler so bear with me. I thought of this a long time ago but I just joined this forum and I didn't see anyone else mention it, its concerning sound and watchmen. I was reading an article about a year (maybe more) ago about blind people who are getting hit by hybrids, why? because when in electric mode they don't create as much sound as a gasoline powered car. This got me to thinking about the way the world in the book sounds. Of course the cars would have a slight electric "whrrr" but that one thing that got me thinkng about all sorts of sound in their world. First would we be listening to any hippie sixties music if we had won the Vietnam war if the hippies were not proven right. What would Pale Horse and Kristalnact sound like? I fear that this great opportunity for creativity will be overlooked by the makers of this movie because it would be too difficult to develop, confusing and too easy to screw up.

Discuss

p.s. can anyone listen to "all along the watchtower" without thinking of this book when he says "outside in the cold distance, a wildcat did growl, two riders were approaching, and the wind began to HOWL"

Excellent thread post. Ive kind of considered this before, but never gave it much thought.

I think they are leaving much of these wonderful details behind for the sake of expediency, unfortunately. I think building all of these 'future cars' would have been too expensive for them.

A world without 60's music?

 

[Everything boy]

Excellent thread post. Ive kind of considered this before, but never gave it much thought.

I think they are leaving much of these wonderful details behind for the sake of expediency, unfortunately. I think building all of these 'future cars' would have been too expensive for them.

A world without 60's music?

thanks, this thread laid dormant for a few days, so I was kinda scared nobody read it, until a heroic noob (like me) decided to take a chance on an new guy's thread (thanks hbw60)
But on your post: yeah they won't do anything too out there, which is good because I kinda made up what Pale Horse and Kristalnacht sounded like in my head. I picture them as the hardest punk imaginable because it seems (from the street people) that this is a universe where punk came harder than when it came here (probably because of more severe idealist disappointment.) I think that's the point thought because when I think of a world without 60s music I think it's sad which is kinda how their world is

 

[Everything boy]

I doubt they do. I can write a nicely formed alternate universe too, but it becomes more complete with every revision. I highly doubt that he just spewed out watchmen "fully formed".

You are right on one thing and wrong on the other, You're right that I'm probably more impressed with the amount of work the man does before he deems something "first draft" (see Twilight of the Superheroes,) but as for the "I can...too" I think the "too" is totally unwarranted: have you read this ****?!? (also see "Twilight") This stuff is almost Dune hard!


Also see Twilight of the Superheroes to see how dumb DC and WB are (for not approving it)

 

[Shivsguy616]

You are right on one thing and wrong on the other, You're right that I'm probably more impressed with the amount of work the man does before he deems something "first draft" (see Twilight of the Superheroes,) but as for the "I can...too" I think the "too" is totally unwarranted: have you read this ****?!? (also see "Twilight") This stuff is almost Dune hard!


Also see Twilight of the Superheroes to see how dumb DC and WB are (for not approving it)

I don't understand. What's wrong with the "too"? Are you saying he doesn't create diverse universes?

 

[Everything boy]

No I mean that it is really hard to do and with all due respect I'm not sure any of us are up to the challenge

 

[Shivsguy616]

No I mean that it is really hard to do and with all due respect I'm not sure any of us are up to the challenge

Oh, okay. Well, my novel is on hold while I finish my exams, so I'll see in September