Spanish National Anthem....

E. Bison said:
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You should not be ashamed of your culture and origins just because you are outnumbered in your environment. You should take pride in being different and embrace it. It is attitudes like that that suppress minor cultures from embracing theirselves and are then accused of excluding others. If you go to another country learn their language but keep yours, learn their culture but keep yours, and learn their customs but keep yours.

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You see the reason why Mestizos never had to be assimalated was because their were already other Mestizos here in the country already when other were barely coming in. So when we left the mother land we just came into the sister land.

oh no bison dont get me wrong...im true blue to the heart... i totally agree with deemars last post...its just i try to understand people and to get to know them you have to understand them and their culture....i would never deny my culture or descent... i love who i am....i was sayin the same thing you are..WE shouldnt change who we are cause someone doesnt speak our language..like darthphere said...it works both ways
 
E. Bison said:
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I have no complaint about things being in different cultures and languages all at once. Yes, there are some ou there who want everything their way and don't want to adapt like my mother for example. She's been in this country for 17 years and STILL doesn't wanna learn English. She complains about nobody wanting to give her and job and doesn't see it as important to learn English. She ALWAYS demands for spanish speaking doctors, repair men, bankers, receptionist, etc!! If she can't understand you she'll MAKE you get somebody who will.

She's doing herself a real disservice.
 
see deemar?? old hispanic women..set in their ways:) ..i know i have relatives like that too bison
 
DarthRekal said:
see deemar?? old hispanic women..set in their ways:) ..i know i have relatives like that too bison

My uncle is always b**thin about the white man trying to hold him down, when it's really him being a drunk and living off my grandmother.
 
deemar325 said:
My uncle is always b**thin about the white man trying to hold him down, when it's really him being a drunk and living off my grandmother.
AHAHA
 
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Yeah well just because the anthem is now available in Spanish doesn't make the original one in English obsolete. Besides who know, somedays a bunch of Japs will be coming here and then you will get the option at the gas station atm for Engrish, Spaunich, and Yapanese.
 
deemar325 said:
My uncle is always b**thin about the white man trying to hold him down, when it's really him being a drunk and living off my grandmother.
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GET A JOB YOU SLACKER!!
 
DarthRekal said:

I know theres racism and classism outthere, but come on if your gonna complain be a credible person is all.

If he was really out there trying to find work I'd be inclined to hear him out. Yet this guy will steal money from my 'Mama' to buy booze!

*sigh*
 
E. Bison said:
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Yeah well just because the anthem is now available in Spanish doesn't make the original one in English obsolete. Besides who know, somedays a bunch of Japs will be coming here and then you will get the option at the gas station atm for Engrish, Spaunich, and Yapanese.

i actually think its flattering they made it in spanish... i was just arguing the whole catering clause....
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I SUUURE do itch really bad down there right now.
 
Cor's fun facts:

sometimes a flag represents what your roots stand for. Not the country per se.

The Athem in spanish is as cheesy as the version sang by pop artist of the 90's. It's actually pop artist of the time now(the spanish one).

The USA Athemn is not that good either, as mention before, it uses an old irish drunk song.

Mexico's Athem is better. Second only to the French one(rated by the artistical point of view).

I concider that the Immigrants that are gonna march(which are almost all of them legal) that they have the right to look for the people they feel opresion on.

Most average USA citizens are racist and/or ignorant as hell

That was our ****ing land to begin with, you traitors and back stabbers:down
 
Corinthian™ said:
Cor's fun facts:

sometimes a flag represents what your roots stand for. Not the country per se.

The Athem in spanish is as cheesy as the version sang by pop artist of the 90's. It's actually pop artist of the time now(the spanish one).

The USA Athemn is not that good either, as mention before, it uses an old irish drunk song.

Mexico's Athem is better. Second only to the French one(rated by the artistical point of view).

I concider that the Immigrants that are gonna march(which are almost all of them legal) that they have the right to look for the people they feel opresion on.

Most average USA citizens are racist and/or ignorant as hell

That was our ****ing land to begin with, you traitors and back stabbers:down

Well..that was insightful.

Ok..I am not a racist #1, it was not your land it was the Native Americans and now it's ours (If your a Native I feel ya, but get over it you got casinos a brotha can barely get a loan with good credit.)#2

Yes a flag can represent your heritage, but the difference is why fly flags of another country basically showing you have no loyalty to the nation you want to mooch off of and then march for a cause that is basically invalid and illegal? Plus the audacity to compare it to the Civil Rights movement, when they where fighting for not only legitimate rights, but the acknowledgement of there humanity and equality. #3

Mexico's anthem is better? That right there is neither here nor there. It makes you sound bi-polar and confused with a competitive antagonism towards the same country 'America' that so many people over the world want to live.

Why even come here if the dislike is so strong?
 
deemar325 said:
Heres the thing you can be proud of your ancestry, yet still be of the nation you live.

I'm black and Italian yet I don't feel the need to parade around with an Nigerian or Italian flag.

I'm American first and foremost, what is so hard to understand about that?

This country is a wealth of riches and we give so much to others and all we ask is for loyalty and to learn English people get upset and complain.

It disgusts me.

"We are Americans first, Americans last, and Americans always"- John McCain


You hit it right on the head deemar :up:
 
deemar325 said:
Well..that was insightful.

Ok..I am not a racist #1, it was not your land it was the Native Americans and now it's ours (If your a Native I feel ya, but get over it you got casinos a brotha can barely get a loan with good credit.)#2

Yes a flag can represent your heritage, but the difference is why fly flags of another country basically showing you have no loyalty to the nation you want to mooch off of and then march for a cause that is basically invalid and illegal? Plus the audacity to compare it to the Civil Rights movement, when they where fighting for not only legitimate rights, but the acknowledgement of there humanity and equality. #3

Mexico's anthem is better? That right there is neither here nor there. It makes you sound bi-polar and confused with a competitive antagonism towards the same country 'America' that so many people over the world want to live.

Why even come here if the dislike is so strong?

MOST, as in some of them. I've yet to meet an avarege Joe who is not ignorant or racist on this matter

It was still our lands. Last time I look Mexicans are actually more Native than the Americans will ever be. Hell, my Father side is full of Indian blood from the South of Arizona.

I am Mexican.

I go to the US to have an education, but I still live in Mexico.

I do not dislike the US. The US is good, it is rather some of their people and some of their goverment I dislike.

Do you even know why the people are protesting?
 
I'm sick of all this crap, this is America. You don't come to this country and try to make it your own.

We speak English here, if I went to another country I'd learn their language, I wouldn't go there and say, you have to speak my language 'cause I don't care to learn yours. It's all B.S., deport those idiots and that is it!

I work in a store, and every day I have Mexicans coming up to me asking if I speak Spanish, and saying they don't speak English, well you are here, learn the language, we're not conforming to them.:mad:
 
Morgoth said:
I'm sick of all this crap, this is America. You don't come to this country and try to make it your own.

We speak English here, if I went to another country I'd learn their language, I wouldn't go there and say, you have to speak my language 'cause I don't care to learn yours. It's all B.S., deport those idiots and that is it!

I work in a store, and every day I have Mexicans coming up to me asking if I speak Spanish, and saying they don't speak English, well you are here, learn the language, we're not conforming to them.:mad:


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Morgoth said:
I'm sick of all this crap, this is America. You don't come to this country and try to make it your own.

We speak English here, if I went to another country I'd learn their language, I wouldn't go there and say, you have to speak my language 'cause I don't care to learn yours. It's all B.S., deport those idiots and that is it!

I work in a store, and every day I have Mexicans coming up to me asking if I speak Spanish, and saying they don't speak English, well you are here, learn the language, we're not conforming to them.:mad:
Well, some of them are TRYING. Hell, I speak broken english sometimes and I can say I speak it better than some Americans, as in Southeners and some Canjuns(Who I swear, they don't speak english at all!)

And well, everyone comes to US and makes it their own. That's why you have a melting pot..
 
"To Anacreon in Heaven" is a much better song than "The Star-Spangled Banner".

Hell, all Francis Scott Key did was copy the melody for his poem
 
Corinthian™ said:
MOST, as in some of them. I've yet to meet an avarege Joe who is not ignorant or racist on this matter

It was still our lands. Last time I look Mexicans are actually more Native than the Americans will ever be. Hell, my Father side is full of Indian blood from the South of Arizona.

I am Mexican.

I go to the US to have an education, but I still live in Mexico.

I do not dislike the US. The US is good, it is rather some of their people and some of their goverment I dislike.

Do you even know why the people are protesting?

I wish you well on your education, but will you leave when your visa is up or will you become an illegal? I'm not trying to be rude or incite you it's a valid question. Who will you be? A hypocrite or go through proper channels for American citizenship if you so choose?

Now on to your statement..many Mexicans are of Native lineage yes, but so are many Americans, myself I am of Seminole and Cherokee lineage when my slave ancestors ran away to florida and mixed with the Natives who took them in. So my claim is no less valid than yours to being of this land of the Americas.

The government for all the issues I have with it is right on this issue, we most protect our borders. Not only illegals come through the border, drugs and other contraband to also.

Now with the heightened threat of terrorism you want us to allow anyone to freely cross our border?

To the illegals already here I understand their plight and in a way I cannot help but sympathize with them. I'm African-American our history has been wraught with pain and suffering and injustice, yet illegals are not Americans they barely if at all pay taxes. A good deal of their income goes back to Mexico and not to the American economy.

Your President Vincente Fox knows this, his pay check is partially funded by the American economy and the drugs that pass through his borders to ours. Then Mexico laws are very much the opposite to ours when it comes to immigration more hostile yet America bends over backwards to accumidate illegals.

These people got it good compared to a blackman in Selma, Alabama in 1965 and he was American! So to me if they do not truly imbrace our culture and want to learn English they need not be here.
 
Corinthian™ said:
Well, some of them are TRYING. Hell, I speak broken english sometimes and I can say I speak it better than some Americans, as in Southeners and some Canjuns(Who I swear, they don't speak english at all!)

And well, everyone comes to US and makes it their own. That's why you have a melting pot..

Guess what they are naturalized Americans and at least speak enough English to function fully in our country.
 

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