Spidey guy Raimi says `Dark Knight' has upped ante (AP) - Part 1

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[Raiden]

Yahoo! Article

CANNES, France - Like other superhero fans, Sam Raimi agrees that "The Dark Knight" raised the bar for every comic-book movie to come.

Raimi figures it can only benefit the next chapter in his "Spider-Man" franchise, the first installment of which had been the top-grossing superhero flick until "The Dark Knight" blew it out of the record books last year.

"`The Dark Knight' was brilliant, and the audience seemed to love it, and I think it rightfully raises expectations for the other superhero pictures," Raimi said in an interview at the Cannes Film Festival, where his horror tale "Drag Me to Hell" played. "Which is a great thing for everybody. For the filmmakers, for the audience."

Raimi said he expects to have the script for "Spider-Man 4" in hand within a few weeks. Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright David Lindsay-Abaire is writing the screenplay for the film, due in theaters in May 2011.

The director said he has discussed the story with Tobey Maguire, who stars as Peter Parker and his alter ego Spidey.

"I'm interested in making the best of the `Spider-Man' movies ever, and Tobey's really excited," Raimi said. "I'm really looking forward to that collaboration."

A part has been written for Kirsten Dunst, and Raimi said he hopes she will return as the love of Peter's life, Mary Jane Watson.

After glowing reaction for the first two movies, critical response for "Spider-Man 3" was so-so. Right after the third movie came out, Raimi was undecided about returning for more, but he said he did not like "thinking about a world where somebody else was making the Peter Parker story. I love that character."

Raimi said the break he took to make the smaller "Drag Me to Hell" has refreshed him for the return to Spidey, adding that he wanted to "take some of the more modest approach I've learned from this film into the `Spider-Man' film. I think it's exactly what it needs."

He also said he was game for the challenge of satisfying fans clamoring for bigger and better after "The Dark Knight."

"Yes, they have higher expectations," Raimi said. "The best thing I can do is be true to my character and work harder to bring him to the screen with as much truth and drama and a real conflict that means something to me. And have him grow in a realistic way to either overcome that conflict or be swallowed by it.

"I'm glad those expectations are up. I'm excited about that."

I wish the director for X-Men Origin: Wolverine had the same attitude when he was making that film; it might not have turned out as underwhelming as it did.

 

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[Tacit Ronin]

Raimi was undecided about returning for more, but he said he did not like "thinking about a world where somebody else was making the Peter Parker story. I love that character."

His blood must be boiling right now.

 

[Ajendo]

Good. Let his blood boil till he burns like a fat cow responsible for foot and mouth disease. I find it annoying that it took a film like TDK to make Raimi realise that he should be making better films. People can hold hands, dance around a fire and chant kumbaya in worship of how great they thought his first 2 spidey films were but the reality is, the films could and should have been much better and at least Raimi has the guts to realise this himself.

"Yes, they have higher expectations," Raimi said. "The best thing I can do is be true to my character and work harder to bring him to the screen with as much truth and drama and a real conflict that means something to me. And have him grow in a realistic way to either overcome that conflict or be swallowed by it.

"I'm glad those expectations are up. I'm excited about that."

Be true to what? Raimi's been regurgitating the same bull crap comments since the idiots that bought into his "I had spidey on my wall since I was 12" nonsense and gave him the clearly overwhelming responsibility to stick to the source material....and dont get me started on the whole conflict angle. We all know how Peter was swallowed by conflict, he ended becoming a dancing jackass who pretends to fall asleep on the phone while eating home made chock-chip cookies. Wow such intense, captivating and compelling drama right there.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I think someone's mad.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Good. Let his blood boil till he burns like a fat cow responsible for foot and mouth disease. I find it annoying that it took a film like TDK to make Raimi realise that he should be making better films. People can hold hands, dance around a fire and chant kumbaya in worship of how great they thought his first 2 spidey films were but the reality is, the films could and should have been much better and at least Raimi has the guts to realise this himself.

"Yes, they have higher expectations," Raimi said. "The best thing I can do is be true to my character and work harder to bring him to the screen with as much truth and drama and a real conflict that means something to me. And have him grow in a realistic way to either overcome that conflict or be swallowed by it.

"I'm glad those expectations are up. I'm excited about that."

Be true to what? Raimi's been regurgitating the same bull crap comments since the idiots that bought into his "I had spidey on my wall since I was 12" nonsense and gave him the clearly overwhelming responsibility to stick to the source material....and dont get me started on the whole conflict angle. We all know how Peter was swallowed by conflict, he ended becoming a dancing jackass who pretends to fall asleep on the phone while eating home made chock-chip cookies. Wow such intense, captivating and compelling drama right there.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet some accepted it as awesomeness! lol

Why is this thread open by the way, lol, who cares what the guy who is not directing this film should be benchmarked from Dark Knight

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Because he is a damn good director and some of you guys are biased (nobody specifically).

 

[TomPiltoff]

I find it annoying that it took a film like TDK to make Raimi realise that he should be making better films.

Yeah, that's exactly what you should be taking away from that statement.

Raimi was being asked that question in the context of being one superhero director commenting on another. He was simply acknowledging what a great film TDK is and welcoming the competition.

Regardless of what you think of Raimi's Spider-Man, he clearly wasn't saying 'well I guess I should stop half-assing everything'.

 

[NinjaCarm]

^^ Because he is a damn good director and some of you guys are biased (nobody specifically).

"good director" is a matter of opinion and me not liking him is my opinion

thanks

also he's not working on the project any longer, making this article a moot point, imo

 

[Ajendo]

Raimi could have just said it's a fantastic film and left it at that but no, he goes on talking about how TDK has raised the bar and how he needs to make bigger and BETTER films.

Now, most importantly, what I have taken from the overall statement is, that as usual he was recycling the same old meaningless comments which would have resulted in yet another mediocre, underwhelming effort. I sincerely thank God almighty that Raimi's involvement is now of no consequence.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

It is your opinion. NinjaCarm, yes. Just like how alot of us loved him. Like I said, man, to each his own.

I'll be honest though, the other day I heard somebody wish Sam Raimi dead. That's pathetic and I DO NO respect anybody who feels like that.

 

[TomPiltoff]

Raimi could have just said it's a fantastic film and left it at that but no, he goes on talking about how TDK has raised the bar and how he needs to make bigger and BETTER films.

Well he didn't expect somebody to be reading too much into his comments as you are. Was just being complimentary.

 

[NinjaCarm]

It is your opinion. NinjaCarm, yes. Just like how alot of us loved him. Like I said, man, to each his own.

I'll be honest though, the other day I heard somebody wish Sam Raimi dead. That's pathetic and I DO NO respect anybody who feels like that.

Yeah, I haven't gone that far, that's pretty ridiculous

 

[Ajendo]

^^ Because he is a damn good director and some of you guys are biased (nobody specifically).

I quote, you need to remember that your comments aren't fact and its just your opinion.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well he didn't expect somebody to be reading too much into his comments as you are. Was just being complimentary.

Agreed, and some people just like to turn it around on him so that they could bash him.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I quote, you need to remember that your comments aren't fact and its just your opinion.

As is yours.

 

[TomPiltoff]

I quote, you need to remember that your comments aren't fact and its just your opinion.

Oh god stop whining. I think the internet collectively acknowledges that there's an implicit 'IMO' before or after any subjective comment, doesn't need to be constantly reinforced.

 

[NinjaCarm]

As is yours.

In his defense, you straight out said "he's a good director", stating something as absolute as that means you responded in defense and somewhat being upset

being honest

 

[TheSlag]

I quote, you need to remember that your comments aren't fact and its just your opinion.

LOL. t:

 

[Ajendo]

Well he didn't expect somebody to be reading too much into his comments as you are. Was just being complimentary.

So you're a mind reader?? He was making spider-man films, everything he said pretty much resonated within the realms of fandom, which is inhabited by scrupulous fanboys who read into and analyse everything, all that is seen and unseen, all that is heard and what they want to hear.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Oh god stop whining. I think the internet collectively acknowledges that there's an implicit 'IMO' before or after any subjective comment, doesn't need to be constantly reinforced.

true but it's all about tone, people straight out try to make others angry with their statements all the time

when u have written forms of opinions maybe people should be more tactful, including myself

 

[NinjaCarm]

why r we in this thread btw it sucks lol

close please?

 

[TheSlag]

Oh god stop whining. I think the internet collectively acknowledges that there's an implicit 'IMO' before or after any subjective comment, doesn't need to be constantly reinforced.

LOL. You're preaching it to the wrong poster. SMH12 is the one who gets upset when people post their opinions "without" stating IMO with every one. Strangely only when it comes to Raimi and Spider-Man. Go figure.

 

[Ajendo]

Oh god stop whining. I think the internet collectively acknowledges that there's an implicit 'IMO' before or after any subjective comment, doesn't need to be constantly reinforced.

You're slow on the uptake, mate. I was basically parodying spideyhero12.