State your unpopular film related opinion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 25

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Matt Mortem said:
How's this for unpopular: I don't want the X-Men in the MCU at all.
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Agreed.

I'm fine with the X-Men being their own team of heroes. The MCU has plenty to work with as is.

I think the X-Men deserve to have their own thing, to be honest. The stories and characters are vast. There's no need to try to squeeze all of that into an already established universe with the MCU.

And speaking of the X-Men movies ... I am still salty about the treatment of Rogue, and the fact that we haven't seen Omega Red in a film yet ...
 
While I do really enjoy the current Fox X-Men series, my larger concern with the rights reverting is that it would overload the MCU. Marvel has done a great job building up more obscure characters like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man with more on the way, and I'm afraid we would lose those and just get a bunch of X-Men movies instead. I want to see Runaways. I want to see Inhumans. I want to see Thunderbolts. X-Men being back decreases the chances of those happening.

Right now we get the best of both worlds.
 
Kahran Ramsus said:
While I do really enjoy the current Fox X-Men series, my larger concern with the rights reverting is that it would overload the MCU. Marvel has done a great job building up more obscure characters like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man with more on the way, and I'm afraid we would lose those and just get a bunch of X-Men movies instead. I want to see Runaways. I want to see Inhumans. I want to see Thunderbolts. X-Men being back decreases the chances of those happening.

Right now we get the best of both worlds.
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Agreed. :up:

I don't think the X-Men movies are perfect, but they're good in their own right, and they played a huge part in putting comic book movies on the map.

Plus, it's a great thing that we're getting Apocalypse in a film. I feel like the MCU is helping Fox out with taking more "risks" with the X-Men films; to make them more comic-booky. I think the franchise is headed in the right direction right now.
 
XtremelyBaneful said:
some people counting it as a reboot does not make it an official reboot. if fans consider it a reboot, that's another thing. it changing the continuity was due to the events of the film itself, which were followups to previous installments of the same series. so even if it does what a reboot is supposed to do, it's canon.
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Days of Future Past basically wiped out the canon of the previous films, or at least called into question their events to the point that we can't be certain they were presented as we know them, and it seems Age of Apocalypse will further do that. It's commonly referred to as a "soft reboot." It's a reboot.
 
On a semi-related note, I enjoyed parts of most of the previous X-films but dofp is maybe the only X-men movie that I really liked. Also I wouldn't mind seeing a film with these guys one day:

original-x-men1.jpg
 
Consider me in the camp where I don't want a full movie with only the original 5.
 
Tron Bonne said:
Days of Future Past basically wiped out the canon of the previous films, or at least called into question their events to the point that we can't be certain they were presented as we know them, and it seems Age of Apocalypse will further do that. It's commonly referred to as a "soft reboot." It's a reboot.
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but it is still canon to the events of the films that preceded it. which isn't the reboot that blackman wants
 
Tron Bonne said:
Days of Future Past basically wiped out the canon of the previous films, or at least called into question their events to the point that we can't be certain they were presented as we know them, and it seems Age of Apocalypse will further do that. It's commonly referred to as a "soft reboot." It's a reboot.
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I just saw this post and couldn't disagree more. That's like saying Back to the Future 2 is a reboot of Back to the Future.
 
DoFP is a reboot with an asterisk, depending on what fans refer to with that term. There are purely narrative connotations, but also industry pitch-type talk that concerns the creative team involved, too.

Most people probably associate it with a new set of filmmakers coming in to completely revamp an established property from the ground up with no reference to previous attempts (new Fantastic Four, Chris Nolan's Batman movies, etc.), whereas DoFP altered the bulk of its franchise's history yet still remained within the same universe established in the previous X-Men movies and kept all major players on the court (Bryan Singer, Hugh Jackman, and so on).

There are many ways you could take this; you could call "First Class" a reboot if you wanted to.

Star Wars looks mediocre
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Loved the hell out of the latest two trailers, although the one released last night made me feel cautiously optimistic about Adam Driver. Here's hoping David Fincher was just taking the piss out of that dumb exec in one of the leaked Sony emails and wasn't onto something :o
 
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Dark Victory said:
DoFP is a reboot with an asterisk, depending on what fans refer to with that term. There are purely narrative connotations, but also industry pitch-type talk that concerns the creative team involved, too.

Most people probably associate it with a new set of filmmakers coming in to completely revamp an established property from the ground up with no reference to previous attempts (new Fantastic Four, Chris Nolan's Batman movies, etc.), whereas DoFP altered the bulk of its franchise's history yet still remained within the same universe established in the previous X-Men movies and kept all major players on the court (Bryan Singer, Hugh Jackman, and so on).

There are many ways you could take this; you could call "First Class" a reboot if you wanted to.
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I mean, it's not really a fan thing. It's a soft reboot. I honestly don't think it's disputable, and it's weird to me that people seem to want to argue it's not. I guess people have come to associate all reboots with hard reboots with new cast, actors, etc., but there's different forms of rebooting canon and not all them involve throwing everything out and starting from scratch. Comic readers (especially DC readers) are probably more used to this type of reboot so it makes more sense to them maybe.
 
A Necessary Evil said:
Star Wars looks mediocre
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I can't say that I agree, but that's only because I refuse to watch the final trailer.

I want to go into the movie with as little information as possible and with literally NO expectations. I feel like even the poster revealed too much, so I'm definitely avoiding the final trailer like the plague.

People are losing their minds over this trailer; I feel like nobody remembers that this was the exact same response that all of the Phantom Menace trailers had. Some people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
 
I'm also trying not to watch the final trailer, might be one of the hardest things I've ever done ha :funny:
 
I'm watching the main trailers, so I watched the new one, but I've avoided most of everything. I still don't even know the name of the new characters, except for Kylo Ren and the returning cast/characters.

Hell, I didn't even know there was a new Deatstar.
 
Tron Bonne said:
It's literally nothing like saying that at all.
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I get what he's saying though. The reboot in x men is a result of the events of the film itself and the series' events leading up to it. it isn't one that fox has to market around or anything like that, like fant4stic.
Tron Bonne said:
I mean, it's not really a fan thing. It's a soft reboot. I honestly don't think it's disputable, and it's weird to me that people seem to want to argue it's not. I guess people have come to associate all reboots with hard reboots with new cast, actors, etc., but there's different forms of rebooting canon and not all them involve throwing everything out and starting from scratch. Comic readers (especially DC readers) are probably more used to this type of reboot so it makes more sense to them maybe.
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it's weird to me that you can't see why people dispute it. it clearly is tied to the films before it, maybe less so going forward but the events of the dofp film wouldn't the way they were if it weren't for the films that led up to it.
Travesty said:
Yeah, it's a soft reboot.
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word. well in all fairness then i don't consider a soft reboot a true reboot at all. this article lists some, including jurassic world

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/soft-reboots/247403/the-highs-and-lows-of-the-soft-movie-reboot
 
XtremelyBaneful said:
I get what he's saying though. The reboot in x men is a result of the events of the film itself and the series' events leading up to it. it isn't one that fox has to market around or anything like that, like fant4stic.
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That doesn't really matter. By this logic, there's never been a comic book reboot, because almost every reboot, soft or hard, came as a result of a event in the comics themselves.

it's weird to me that you can't see why people dispute it. it clearly is tied to the films before it, maybe less so going forward but the events of the dofp film wouldn't the way they were if it weren't for the films that led up to it.
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Because that doesn't....

word. well in all fairness then i don't consider a soft reboot a true reboot at all. this article lists some, including jurassic world
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Oh, nevermind then. I guess there's no point in really having this conversation in this case.
 
People seem to keep confusing reboot with revival.

Jurassic World was a revival of the JP films.

Batman Forever was not a reboot of the Burton films. Nolan's Batman films rebooted the prior 4, and now BvS is rebooting Batman again.

DoFP was not a reboot of any sort, it was a continuation/fixing sequel to all the movies prior.
 
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