State your unpopular film related opinion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 26

[Leenie]

Sorry to hear some of you will be skipping BvS. Hopefully other CBMs this year will be more to your liking.

I really do wish I was excited for BvS. I sincerely mean that. I never thought that I would be avoiding a movie with both Batman and Superman, but here I am. It's especially sad because I don't know a single person in real life (friends, family, etc) who actually wants to see it either. Some of the people who do plan to see it just tell me, "Well, I'm a nerd, so I feel like I have to see it." Not very enthusiastic, right? While personal stories don't mean much for grander scope of the general audience, I've just found it really difficult to feel positive about the movie.

Luckily, though, there's a lot of CBMs coming out this year. Civil War and Suicide Squad are the ones I'm looking most forward to. I plan on seeing Deadpool for Valentine's Day as well, because why the heck not? It looks dumb, but I'm pretty sure that's what the movie is going for anyway. I hope it's good.

Seeing Harley being Harley in the new Suicide Squad trailer definitely brought out my inner child. While the Suicide Squad movie looks weird and dark, there is most definitely an element of fun to be seen so far. I like fun.

 

[Leenie]

How in the hell is Watchmen supposed to bring out one's inner child? It's a very adult story.

Ask the poster who brought up the subject of Zack Snyder movies "bringing out your inner child because it's 'exactly' like the comics."

 

[Leenie]

But his movies are transcendent and stuff...

Maybe for immature and randy prepubescent boys ...

If someone likes his movies just for the visuals, that's totally cool. I can understand that. While I am not a fan of the Watchmen film, the character designs are very interesting to look at (and some of the visuals with those designs are pretty; the Dr. Manhattan origin stuff looked great, for instance).

People lose me when they tell me his movies are "deep," though. They're about as deep as a puddle to me.

 

[Drizzle]

Ask the poster who brought up the subject of Zack Snyder movies "bringing out your inner child because it's 'exactly' like the comics."

That's probably more directed towards Man of Steel or Batman v. Superman.

 

[Leenie]

That's probably more directed towards Man of Steel or Batman v. Superman.

I expressed how I felt about BvS in that post. I feel the same way about Man of Steel and what I've seen from BvS as I do with Watchmen, which is why I brought it up.

 

[Brother Jack]

I honestly don't think BvS looks good at all, but I'll still be there opening night, lol.

Yeah, as much as I've complained about it there's no way I'm not gonna be there first weekend. My expectations are low but it means there's a better chance I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Snow Queen]

I honestly don't think BvS looks good at all, but I'll still be there opening night, lol.

Same here. Just wish I was going in with the optimism I had coming off the Comic con trailer.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, as much as I've complained about it there's no way I'm not gonna be there first weekend. My expectations are low but it means there's a better chance I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Exactly.

 

[Leenie]

I'll say this: Maybe I would be more inclined to go see BvS if a close friend or if my significant other wanted to see it and they wanted company. I can enjoy a bad movie if I'm with good company. The thing is, though, I don't know anyone close who wants to go see it, so I don't feel the need to put forth the effort to see it by myself.

Zack Snyder film releases tend to have the same pattern: Lots of hype, followed by lots of disappointment. Every single time. Based on his pattern, I don't feel like my business has been earned for this movie (especially since the trailers have failed miserably in "selling it" to me). Going to the movies is expensive, and there's a lot of stuff coming out this year that I'm actually eager to see. Why not save money and skip the movies I'm not so excited about?

I'll give BvS a chance at some point ... But paying for a full price ticket? Nah. I'll Redbox it.

 

[Brother Jack]

I'll say this: Maybe I would be more inclined to go see BvS if a close friend or if my significant other wanted to see it and they wanted company. I can enjoy a bad movie if I'm with good company. The thing is, though, I don't know anyone close who wants to go see it, so I don't feel the need to put forth the effort to see it by myself.

Zack Snyder film releases tend to have the same pattern: Lots of hype, followed by lots of disappointment. Every single time. Based on his pattern, I don't feel like my business has been earned for this movie (especially since the trailers have failed miserably in "selling it" to me). Going to the movies is expensive, and there's a lot of stuff coming out this year that I'm actually eager to see. Why not save money and skip the movies I'm not so excited about?

I'll give BvS a chance at some point ... But paying for a full price ticket? Nah. I'll Redbox it.

I have a lot of respect for that. I've often felt hypocritical in giving money to things that I don't have much faith in. But giving something a shot isn't necessarily bad and, as I said, being pleasantly surprised is nice.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I'll say this: Maybe I would be more inclined to go see BvS if a close friend or if my significant other wanted to see it and they wanted company. I can enjoy a bad movie if I'm with good company. The thing is, though, I don't know anyone close who wants to go see it, so I don't feel the need to put forth the effort to see it by myself. (Epically dumb motivation to NOT see a movie)

Zack Snyder film releases tend to have the same pattern: Lots of hype, followed by lots of disappointment. Every single time. Based on his pattern, I don't feel like my business has been earned for this movie (especially since the trailers have failed miserably in "selling it" to me). Going to the movies is expensive, and there's a lot of stuff coming out this year that I'm actually eager to see (Like what?). Why not save money and skip the movies I'm not so excited about?

I'll give BvS a chance at some point ... But paying for a full price ticket? Nah. I'll Redbox it.

So rather than risk a work of visual expressionism not fulfilling its "literary" duties, you'd rather not see it at all?

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Maybe for immature and randy prepubescent boys ...

I know I'll see Batman v Superman when it comes out on DVD, but this is the first time in my life when I'm not really excited about a movie about Batman or Superman. The last clip I saw where Batman slammed his car into Superman and acted like a small boy killed some of the interest I had. It looked like a fanfilm, to be honest. The acting doesn't look too convincing either...like they're reading from a piece of paper. I know, it's only 45 seconds of the movie, but still...

I don't know Synder in real life, but he makes me a bit annoyed when I read interviews with him.

"Transcendent. Mythology. I made Superman real. It's not supposed to be fun. It's not like the Chris Reeve movies or the flavor of the week Ant-Man. And we want to explore Doomsday's rich mythology, right? His life in Lex Luthor's petri dish. Right?"

Reminds me of a guy I once knew.

 

[DA_Champion]

Zack Snyder hasn't done that for me. I find his films to be downright joyless.

Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies bring out my inner child.

Most of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies have brought out my inner child.

The first two Christopher Reeve Superman movies still bring out my inner child.

Watchmen? Yeah, no. I felt that Snyder had no idea what the images in the Watchmen comic meant, and I ABHOR the ending to the movie. The film felt very cold and shallow to me.

Batman v. Superman looks horrible to me. The imagery, the dialogue, the entirety of that second trailer ... No thanks, I'm skipping it in theaters. I'll Redbox it sometime in the future.

And if films like Sucker Punch or 300 bring out someone's inner child, then ... I don't know what to say.

300 doesn't bring out the inner "child", it brings out the inner "teenager", so it's a different thing, at least in terms of style.

That's the style part. There's pretty good content in there as well. It has a lot of things we don't normally see in either big sword movies or CBMs, which is that it's necessary for the hero to die, and that comprehensive victory is impossible.

There's also other truth to it, for example that the Spartan soldiers are better because they're full-time soldiers, or the way the Persians try and sway Leonidas, by contrasting between gold and punishment. "Join us and get gold, decline us and die", that is the way these things are negotiated in real life, at all levels, for example when private sector bankers negotiate with Washington prosecutors, or when central American drug cartels negotiate with informants or public officials. There's plenty of depth in 300 beneath the style.

The closing scene as well. We see it's just that blonde guy telling a story to 30,000 other Greek troops. That means the entire preceding movie might have been a lie, just military propaganda. It's not something you find in other movies.

 

[DarkKnight]

I'm not a big fan of Star Trek or Star Wars. Yup, I said it. Its true. I'm not saying they are bad by any means, I grew up watching some of the old Captain Kirk re-runs and grew up during the popular Star Trek with Picard days. They were okay, but I found myself easily bored by them as well as the old film. Star Wars I was kind of the same with. I've seen all of them a couple of times except the newest one, They are not on my big re-watch list. Again, not saying they are bad, just not my cup of tea I guess. I'll eventually see the new one. I did however like the newer Star Trek films, I'd say Karl Urban as McCoy is my favorite character.

I'd say as far as my favorite SciFi/Space Cowboy/Futuristic show/films series would be Firefly/Serenity and Cowboy Bebop. I honestly enjoy those way more than either Star Wars or Star Trek

 

[DyeLorean]

I'm not a big fan of Star Trek or Star Wars. Yup, I said it. Its true. I'm not saying they are bad by any means, I grew up watching some of the old Captain Kirk re-runs and grew up during the popular Star Trek with Picard days. They were okay, but I found myself easily bored by them as well as the old film. Star Wars I was kind of the same with. I've seen all of them a couple of times except the newest one, They are not on my big re-watch list. Again, not saying they are bad, just not my cup of tea I guess. I'll eventually see the new one. I did however like the newer Star Trek films, I'd say Karl Urban as McCoy is my favorite character.

I'd say as far as my favorite SciFi/Space Cowboy/Futuristic show/films series would be Firefly/Serenity and Cowboy Bebop. I honestly enjoy those way more than either Star Wars or Star Trek

I understand, I'm not a big massive fan either, but I can genuinely understand why a lot of people is. I really like the Star Wars movies, I love the mythology, everything they created, this wonderful world that doesn't exist but feels so alive... I truly love that.
But not on a level of dressing myself with costumes or having all the merchandising.

 

[CJ]

I agree with DarkKnight. the Star Wars movies are alright, (I actually liked Anakin's character arc and don't mind his inclusion at the end of Jedi) but I never quite understood why it became such a massive juggernaut. People often rank Empire on the same level as The Godfather, which just makes me scratch my head. Speaking about Cowboy Bebop, it has, IMHO, far more substance and emotional weight to it than all of the Star Wars films combined.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Maybe because Empire Strikes Back actually ENGAGES its audience?

 

[CJ]

Well, I saw the re-release back in 1997, and was bored to tears with it. It does manage to hold my interest a bit more today, but I still find the movies to be a little overrated. Again, not saying they are bad movies, just.. not my cup of tea.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ And that's exactly okay. Different strokes, man

 

[DarkKnight]

I agree with DarkKnight. the Star Wars movies are alright, (I actually liked Anakin's character arc and don't mind his inclusion at the end of Jedi) but I never quite understood why it became such a massive juggernaut. People often rank Empire on the same level as The Godfather, which just makes me scratch my head. Speaking about Cowboy Bebop, it has, IMHO, far more substance and emotional weight to it than all of the Star Wars films combined.

I agree. I guess with Star Wars (this is my opinion or guess since I'm not a huge fan) gained a lot of its popularity due to it being visually stunning and ground breaking since the visual effects were way before its time. Kind of like how The Matrix started a whole new way of doing slow-mo and other crazy visual effects as it was ground breaking and before its time as well. That's just my guess at it. Again, I'm not knocking Star Wars or Star Trek. I'm not calling them bad. As we both said just not our cup of tea.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Sorry to hear some of you will be skipping BvS. Hopefully other CBMs this year will be more to your liking.

I honestly don't think BvS looks good at all, but I'll still be there opening night, lol.

The problem is, as low my expectations are, I'm seeing it based on the principle alone. Which is sad. I've never felt that way about a movie like this before. I'm going to have to force myself to look forward to this when it gets closer. This movie is two months away and I feel almost nothing. There's reasons why people feel like this, especially for BVS movie which should have everybody on the same side. Something is wrong, and it ain't the fans making **** up (for the most part). There's regular joes who I know that are skeptical. My brother even thinks it looks bad.

I also feel like I've seen some defense and justifications here and the internet that lack substance too. More is just going against it at this point. I also think that the eye has been taken off the ball of the fact that this should be focused on a Batman v Superman movie but instead people are focusing more on the DCCU. And I never thought I would quote Jurassic World but, "It's Batman vs Superman. Wow enough."

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

I'm not a big fan of Star Trek or Star Wars. Yup, I said it. Its true. I'm not saying they are bad by any means, I grew up watching some of the old Captain Kirk re-runs and grew up during the popular Star Trek with Picard days. They were okay, but I found myself easily bored by them as well as the old film. Star Wars I was kind of the same with. I've seen all of them a couple of times except the newest one, They are not on my big re-watch list. Again, not saying they are bad, just not my cup of tea I guess. I'll eventually see the new one. I did however like the newer Star Trek films, I'd say Karl Urban as McCoy is my favorite character.

I'd say as far as my favorite SciFi/Space Cowboy/Futuristic show/films series would be Firefly/Serenity and Cowboy Bebop. I honestly enjoy those way more than either Star Wars or Star Trek

As a little boy, I hated Star Trek and loved Star Wars.

Star Trek had middle-aged guys with beer guts dressed up in tight sweaters, stupid-looking aliens and a lot of talking.

Star Wars had space samurais, cool-looking aliens and a lot of action/adventure.

Now, as an adult...I still hate Star Trek

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

The old one is a classic. Why didn't you like it?

I found it to be extremely boring and overrated. For years I heard that it was the best zombie movie ever, and even better than Night of the Living Dead. When I finally saw it, I almost fell asleep. Had to force myself to watch it. I never had this problem with Night of the Living Dead...

Maybe it's the setting? Maybe it was scarier when they didn't rely so much on gory death scenes. I don't know, but it disappointed me. But like I said, the ending made me laugh.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The Truman Show is one of the most underrated SCIENCE FICTION films of the last 20 years or so. Yeah... You read that right.

 

[Leenie]

So rather than risk a work of visual expressionism not fulfilling its "literary" duties, you'd rather not see it at all?

I will see it ... When I rent it on Blu-Ray and watch it on my big screen for under $5.