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This reminded me of one of my unusual opinions, although it might not be as unpopular as it once was. Tommy Boy is a classic comedy. Farley was a master of physical comedy and used his frenetic energy in ways that few actors ever have. TB used that and infused a few truly touching scenes for cohesive, memorable story. However, the critics HAMMERED it, especially back in the 90s.
 
Roger ebert is was way overrated. Its amazing how people got suckered in by him and needed his opinion on films instead of judging them by themselves.
 
I don't get all the Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy comparisons......??????
 
People act like GOTG invented pop songs playing over trailers.

LOL, Is that really one of the reasons people are comparing them? Other than the music in the trailer, they are absolutely nothing alike.
 
Roger ebert is was way overrated. Its amazing how people got suckered in by him and needed his opinion on films instead of judging them by themselves.

What I liked about him is that he didn't just review the film, but always had some analysis over it, some insightful reading about the movie that made you go "Umm I never thought about it, but he's right!". I didn't always agree, but I always understood his point of view.
 
This reminded me of one of my unusual opinions, although it might not be as unpopular as it once was. Tommy Boy is a classic comedy. Farley was a master of physical comedy and used his frenetic energy in ways that few actors ever have. TB used that and infused a few truly touching scenes for cohesive, memorable story. However, the critics HAMMERED it, especially back in the 90s.
Farley was great. Shame he didn't get to make that Fatty Arbuckle biopic with Peter Weir.
I don't get all the Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy comparisons......??????
I'm probably wrong but other than the use of pop songs in the trailers, maybe it's also because they are both kinda of a group of misfits not necessarily always on the right side of the law and not very well known characters in general as well? Anyway I see Guardians more as a Space Opera and SS as a crazy "Dirty Dozen" with superheros.
 
Oh please. WB like any studio in history is trying to repeat the success of another film by similarities in marketing. It's nothing new. SS may be a different film, but why did it get greenlit? Or Deadpool for that matter? Similar overall concept to sell. Band of misfits who are unlikely heroes must be hero like. The how of them will be totally different but that ain't stopping WB from selling them to appeal to the same people who made GOTG such a success. The comparisons of the marketing isn't made up. They're clearly there. "Worst Heroes Ever" tagline, quirky and irreverent humor cut into it with a rock pop song guiding it and making all these people look rebellious. Marvel took the chance first and is kind of a testament to its trust in material and way of marketing which was weird and risky but now others want to be it.
 
I don't get all the Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy comparisons......??????

I made comparisons after the second trailer ... Because both Suicide Squad and Guardians deal with a group of "unlikely heroes" who are misfits and losers in society. Also, because of the songs ... People now associate "Hooked on a Feeling" with Guardians (kind of embedded in pop culture now), and I think WB was going for that same deal with "Bohemian Rhapsody" and Suicide Squad (because why not use a marketing strategy that was successful for another film?). "Bohemian Rhapsody" worked amazingly well with the trailer; I freakin' loved it.

When I make comparisons to the two films, I'm not knocking on either film. Guardians in many respects is a weird film with a distinct sense of humor ... And Suicide Squad looks like a weird film with a distinct sense of humor as well. I mean that in a really good way for both movies.

I see similarities between both movies, but I am in no way accusing the Suicide Squad movie of "ripping off" Guardians. When I saw the second trailer, I became REALLY excited for the movie, because while the movie looks weird and twisted in many ways ... It also looks like there's FUN to be had as well (like with the weird concept of Guardians).
 
Oh please. WB like any studio in history is trying to repeat the success of another film by similarities in marketing. It's nothing new. SS may be a different film, but why did it get greenlit? Or Deadpool for that matter? Similar overall concept to sell. Band of misfits who are unlikely heroes must be hero like. The how of them will be totally different but that ain't stopping WB from selling them to appeal to the same people who made GOTG such a success. The comparisons of the marketing isn't made up. They're clearly there. "Worst Heroes Ever" tagline, quirky and irreverent humor cut into it with a rock pop song guiding it and making all these people look rebellious. Marvel took the chance first and is kind of a testament to its trust in material and way of marketing which was weird and risky but now others want to be it.

The fact that WB/DC waited to pull the trigger on their Cinematic Universe makes it pretty clear that they wanted to see how well it worked for Marvel, and I say this as someone who's more in the camp of the DCCU.

What I want, more than anything, is for DCCU to show us a team of people with horrible, villainous traits that can put that aside, or use the talents given by those traits, to deal with a greater threat.

My unpopular opinion: outside of its trailer, there was nothing about the Guardians that really made them feel rebellious. Or even dangerous. If you look into the biographies of people considered rebellious, like Jim Morrison, you'll find some pretty lurid stuff. This was something I found lacking in the Guardians themselves. I want to see that wild, self-destructive streak and zest for life spliced into the characters in the Suicide Squad...they seem like fun company, I just need to see that wild side in all its glory.
 
I think Roger Ebert is okay. I don't agree with everything he wrote, but at least he gave one of my favorite movies (The Phantom) a positive review.

1. After watching The Dark Knight Rises again, I think it could (possibly)be the best in the trilogy. I'm not sure yet, I need to investigate the matter closer.

2. I'm a bit tired of seeing Stan Lee in Marvel movies. You know what would be a lot cooler than Stan Lee in a Spider-Man movie?

Steve Ditko. But that will never happen. Maybe when the Mr. A movie comes out in the year 2865 and scientists have perfected cryogenics.

3. Superman 4 is "okay". I prefer to watch it over Superman 3, which is kind of boring at times...

(At least Reeve had good intentions with Superman 4. That makes it a little bit better in my eyes. Still, it's a pretty not-very-good movie).

4. ...and even though it is boring at times, Superman 3 is far from the worst superhero movie. It's not as bad as Watchmen (who watches the watchmen? No one in my house), V for Vendetta (thanks a lot for all the clueless occupy people with Guy Fawkes masks) or Catwoman (how did this get made? How??? Imagine if someone proposed this movie today. He would be shot after five seconds).

5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is overrated. Sure, some of the scenes are very disturbing and almost makes me cry just by thinking about them, but it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. I've seen better acting by seven year olds in a school play, there's no chainsaw massacre in it, and I'm pretty sure it's a Scooby Doo ripoff.
 
The fact that WB/DC waited to pull the trigger on their Cinematic Universe makes it pretty clear that they wanted to see how well it worked for Marvel, and I say this as someone who's more in the camp of the DCCU.

What I want, more than anything, is for DCCU to show us a team of people with horrible, villainous traits that can put that aside, or use the talents given by those traits, to deal with a greater threat.

My unpopular opinion: outside of its trailer, there was nothing about the Guardians that really made them feel rebellious. Or even dangerous. If you look into the biographies of people considered rebellious, like Jim Morrison, you'll find some pretty lurid stuff. This was something I found lacking in the Guardians themselves. I want to see that wild, self-destructive streak and zest for life spliced into the characters in the Suicide Squad...they seem like fun company, I just need to see that wild side in all its glory.

I think with SS you have more of an advantage where these are actually ****ed up people and villains who've done bad things. Guardians you had the rebellious types but they weren't that bad plus it had that tongue and cheek flavor to it that made it more fun and excusable to accept that Drax has killed a lot of people. Here, this is where the marketing could be its own thing. Instead of playing to making them seem softer, make it more hard core. It's called SUICIDE Squad. They're just kind of dressing it up and making it all colorful and more fun and not taking full advantage. Granted, this is the first trailer and I thought that CC trailer was a much better representation of it than this one. Suicide Squad is already cooler than Guadians as an idea for me and I'm more interested in this than Guardians.
 
The fact that WB/DC waited to pull the trigger on their Cinematic Universe makes it pretty clear that they wanted to see how well it worked for Marvel, and I say this as someone who's more in the camp of the DCCU.

What I want, more than anything, is for DCCU to show us a team of people with horrible, villainous traits that can put that aside, or use the talents given by those traits, to deal with a greater threat.

My unpopular opinion: outside of its trailer, there was nothing about the Guardians that really made them feel rebellious. Or even dangerous. If you look into the biographies of people considered rebellious, like Jim Morrison, you'll find some pretty lurid stuff. This was something I found lacking in the Guardians themselves. I want to see that wild, self-destructive streak and zest for life spliced into the characters in the Suicide Squad...they seem like fun company, I just need to see that wild side in all its glory.

Agreed.

Both movies may feature a "band of misfits", but honestly the characters in Suicide Squad go beyond misfits. They're villains. They're grade-A *******s who will kill you without remorse. Captain Boomerang is a fun character because of his total and utter irreverence for authority and lack of compassion for anything or anybody. A defining trait of his is that he betrays the team and gets some of them killed.

Also, one of these movies takes place in space and the other doesn't. That's a pretty big one.
 
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I think with SS you have more of an advantage where these are actually ****ed up people and villains who've done bad things. Guardians you had the rebellious types but they weren't that bad plus it had that tongue and cheek flavor to it that made it more fun and excusable to accept that Drax has killed alot of people. Here, this is where the marketing could be it's own thing. Instead of playing to making them seem softer, make it more hard core. It's called SUICIDE Squad. They're just kind of dressing it up and making it all colorful and more fun and not taking full advantage. Granted, this is the first trailer and I thought that CC trailer was a much better representation of it than this one. Suicide Squad is already cooler than Guadians as an idea for me and I'm more interested in this than Guardians.

While the comics aren't exactly light and soft, they aren't very serious either. There was a subplot about Captain Boomerang secretly throwing pies in people's faces and when he was discovered, Amanda Waller punished him by dumping him on an island twenty miles off the coast of his home country. And this is what happened when they came back for him.
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Oh, yeah. There's a lot of silly stuff in the Ostrander run, and even the "dark" things were played for laughs like Boomerang getting Slipknot's head blown off. Or was it his arm? Eh, doesn't matter.
 
While the comics aren't exactly light and soft, they aren't very serious either. There was a subplot about Captain Boomerang secretly throwing pies in people's faces and when he was discovered, Amanda Waller punished him by dumping him on an island twenty miles off the coast of his home country. And this is what happened when they came back for him.

That's true. I imagine these things weren't always super dark, but I'm just saying that this movie can be on the darker side for good reason because of the nature of the thing. Not just darker to take it seriously which I feel like some people like to justify darker comic book movies.
 
I didn't think most were comparing Suicide Squad and Guardians literally. I thought it was more of a "really off the wall, totally unexpected adaptation" that both studios decided to push fairly hard.
 
I used to wonder if Suicide Squad was also meant to compete with Sony who wanted to make a Sinister Six movie to go along with ASM and ASM2. Doesn't really matter, of course; the S6 movie ain't gonna happen now. I'm sure WB is fine with having one less thing to compete against.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if DC decided to push their chips so soon with Suicide Squad after seeing the success of Guardians. I'm sure they're going to be very different films but they're both subversive, ensemble-driven outliers with a mostly unknown cast of characters.
 
There were so many times when Ebert originally review a film and gave it a negative review then years or decades later reviewed that same film and completely changed his mind. Clearly he doesn't or didn't know what he was on about.
 
There were so many times when Ebert originally review a film and gave it a negative review then years or decades later reviewed that same film and completely changed his mind. Clearly he doesn't or didn't know what he was on about.

You've heard it here first, folks, you cannot change your mind on something without having no clue what you're talking about.
 
5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is overrated. Sure, some of the scenes are very disturbing and almost makes me cry just by thinking about them, but it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. I've seen better acting by seven year olds in a school play, there's no chainsaw massacre in it, and I'm pretty sure it's a Scooby Doo ripoff.

I love TCM. Leatherface slamming that door shut still gives me the shivers to this day.

The acting isn't that bad. At least there are no blonde bimbos. It seemed like casting them in horror films from the late 90s to mid 00s was mandatory.
 
Meh... open to your own opinions of course. but outside of how the trailers played out with music. SS and GOTG are nothing alike. I'm betting it will be obviously clear once the film comes out.
 
2 Fast 2 Furious is easily the worst in the franchise for me.

I watched it the other night on Netflix, I had forgotten how dated it looked. Every other Fast and Furious film had used practical car stunts, but 2Fast relied very heavily on very cheap CGI. a lot of the race scenes and CGI stunt scenes just looked horrible, like a scifi movie channel quality. Glad they went back to practical stunts and better cgi for the rest of the films.
 
I love TCM. Leatherface slamming that door shut still gives me the shivers to this day.

YEAH!!! That's one of the scariest scenes I've seen in a movie. Not just the sound of the door, but all of it. He trips and falls, and looks up...there's a very scary-looking Leatherface with a hammer in his hand...smack...legs kicking...and then, the door.

:waa:
 
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