Horror Stephen King's "IT" Part I and Part II

People binge television shows in the comfort of their homes on much smaller screens. It's a different experience from sitting in a stiff theater seat in front of a giant, stupidly bright screen, while being assaulted by theater speakers, surrounded by hundreds of strangers. And with a horror film there is continual tension and stress. That **** wears a person out, quick. And a person has to deal with potential bathroom conundrum at the theater.

I binge shows regularly, but you couldnt pay me to spend more than 4 hours at a theater. I get headaches, back aches, my knees get stiff, and my ass goes numb. I get thirsty and hungry. Its a less and less comfortable ecperience the older I get.

That’s less of a movie problem and more of a personal problem IMO.

Besides, save the film for home then. Personally, an hour at a time on TV for 10 hours ruins the experience for me especially for something that is horror. As an adult I can handle a 3 hour experience if it’s good.

As Roger Ebert once said, no bad movie is too short but no good movie is too long.
 
The bits about relying too much on flashbacks are the only thing I've been afraid of since they announced they were bringing the kids back, but I'll wait to see the movie myself before I buy too heavily into it.
 
I figured with that run time we'd get more Pennywise, that's a shame. My expectations were already set as "won't be as good as chapter one" so the bit of divisiveness isn't too troubling.

The fact audience wanted "more Pennywise" doesn't mean Skarsgard has little screentime.
Anyone would want more Pennywise :D
 
The fact audience wanted "more Pennywise" doesn't mean Skarsgard has little screentime.
Anyone would want more Pennywise :D

I was referring to the one review that specifically said "Pennywise is barely in it".
 
It sounds like no matter how long Pennywise is in this they make a good use of him, also I can't with runtime complaints, Tarantino showing feet for 3h is fine but OH THE HUMANITY 3h movie based on a huge novel is a no no

And in other news Randolph didn't trash Chastain :lmao:
 
These reactions are nice. Glad to see the positivity, but not without complaints.
 
I don't get why everyone keeps saying these reviews are mixed.
Apart from the couple morons randomly bashing on the movie and saying it sucks major balls,
even the reviews pointing out issues and cons in IT2 say it's still a good movie.
 
Plus, it happened the same thing with Chapter One if I'm not mistaken.
When the first twitter "reviews" popped up, there were both pros (the kids, the humor, the coming-of-age aspect, skarsgard) and cons (the third act, the character development, the jumpscares, and so on). Then the movie was released, and it had generally positive reviews, even with cons.
 
It sounds like no matter how long Pennywise is in this they make a good use of him, also I can't with runtime complaints, Tarantino showing feet for 3h is fine but OH THE HUMANITY 3h movie based on a huge novel is a no no

I agree! People are like "a 3 hour movie?!?!!? When will I get to pee?!?!?" you can't go 3 hours? I know some people have legitimate issues that cause them to need the restroom more often (hell, my 70 year old mom gets up 5 times a night) but most people can surely sit for 3 hours without wetting themselves.
 
I agree! People are like "a 3 hour movie?!?!!? When will I get to pee?!?!?" you can't go 3 hours? I know some people have legitimate issues that cause them to need the restroom more often (hell, my 70 year old mom gets up 5 times a night) but most people can surely sit for 3 hours without wetting themselves.

If people just stopped eating and drinking uncontrollably they'd be fine. I for one am glad this year directors seem not to give a damn about those who want movies to be 90 minutes long
 
'It Chapter Two' director on adapting the book's hate crime scene


It was a shocking scene when Stephen King‘s It came out in 1986, and now the character of Adrian Mellon will be adapted for the screen for the first time in It Chapter Two. Director Andy Muschietti recognizes the brutality that comes from this moment, but says “it was always an essential part of the story” in his film.

Actor-filmmaker Xavier Dolan (The Death and Life of John F. Donovan) plays Adrian Mellon, a gay man who, in King’s novel, is attacked by a group of bigots while out with his boyfriend after an earlier incident at a carnival. During the attack, Adrian is thrown off the bridge and into the water below, where he’s then attacked and killed by Pennywise.

The scene wasn’t featured in the original TV miniseries adaptation of It, and Muschietti can understand why. “It was TV and they didn’t have the possibility of making a Rated R [movie] or anything,” he theorizes to EW. “But, in my vision of the movie, Adrian Mellon was always there. The impact of that event in my mind was always very deep. For me, there wasn’t a choice for that.”


Muschietti references the true story of Charlie Howard, who was killed in Bangor, Maine in 1984 by a group of teens for being gay. “It’s one of the things that really caused a deep impact on Stephen King when he was writing It. So, he decided to include it,” the filmmaker says. “Of course, the names are changed, but the beating happened almost exactly like it’s described in the book, and Charlie died in three feet of water in the canal.”

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The director does make one change to the Adrian story so that it’s more referential of Howard: “He was asthmatic, so that made things really worse. The thing I’m adding in the scene is that Adrian is asthmatic, as well. For me, it was always an essential part of the story.”



Dolan and Muschietti are longtime friends who had hopes of featuring each other in their movies. Per Muschietti, “When the idea happened, the first one I called was Xavier and he said, ‘Yeah, let’s do it.'”

Gary Dauberman, a writer on It Chapter Two, told The Hollywood Reporterpreviously that Adrian marks “the first attack in present-day Derry and sets the stage for what Derry has become.”

Chapter Two picks up 27 years after the Losers’ Club fought Pennywise as kids. As adults — played now by James McAvoy (Bill), Jessica Chastain (Beverly), Bill Hader (Richie), Isaiah Mustafa (Mike), James Ransome (Eddie), Jay Ryan (Ben), and Andy Bean (Stanley) — they must return to their hometown when the monster resurfaces.

“It is the influence of Pennywise even while he is hibernating, and it’s pure evil what happens to Adrian,” Dauberman said. “These bullies working through Pennywise was important for us to show.”
 
I’m glad they’re including Adrian, even if it’ll probably be a little tough to watch as a gay man.
 
I just love the part in Chapter One where Beverly kills her own father because of just how creepy the scene is and the build up to it but I just hope in Part 2 they have her character become more of a badass

Another scene I hope they include in It Chapter 2 is Kiss Me Fat boy...that was in the 1990 version as well as the Prince Albert in a can scene
 
I just love the part in Chapter One where Beverly kills her own father because of just how creepy the scene is and the build up to it but I just hope in Part 2 they have her character become more of a badass

Bev's dad is not dead. He can be heard grunting while he's laying on the floor.
Actually, it was Stephen King who asked Muschietti to add that breathing sound, to avoid that kind of confusion and not make the audience think Beverly had just murdered someone.
 
Either way the dad got what he had coming to him trying to rape his own daughter
 
Can't wait for that one inevitable person on Twitter to watch the Adrian Melon scene, having not read the books, and call the director "homophobic". You just know at least someone will react like this and completely miss the point. :whatever:
 
Small reference pools. And any attempt to say "read the book" will be met with hostility.
 
That's a given, but I still bet some folks are gonna misinterpret that scene as anti-homosexuality rather than the hate crime scene it's supposed to be.
 
I hope they include the scene of Adult Henry breaking out of prison and trying to kill Mike only for Mike's fellow Losers to save him at the last minute...they had that in the 1990 version of IT
 

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