Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 4

[guitarsingerguy]

Can't lie, I've blasted "Total Eclipse of the Heart" more than I'd care to admit in the last month after the solar eclipse. It's okay if you know the song is awful right?

Not only do I NOT judge...I find what you did absolutely NECESSARY!

 

[Loki882]

I honestly don't think

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Henry's dead.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I don't think so. My fiancee and I were discussing the changes made, and truthfully, there was only one that we felt was truly unnecessary.

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I don't get why the felt the need to change the big end weapon from Bev's slingshot to the bolt gun. It actually kinda removed a pretty big thing from Bev's, and you know, since feminism seems to be such a big deal in movies these days, IDK why they took that moment away from Bev's.

All the other changes I was completely ok with, or feel like they were actual improvements.

I really liked the film. But my two biggest issues with it were

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Damseling Bev near the end (and no, I'm not buying the justifications for it that some people make) and minimizing Mike's role as much as they did. Like why take that away from them?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

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Where IT's at: $60,103,110 this weekend, $218M domestic and $372M worldwide.

 

[Sundancer]

I didn't' expect to laugh as much as I did. Richie had some good lines.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I didn't' expect to laugh as much as I did. Richie had some good lines.

There was some great humour throughout. I really need to see this again,preferably without teenagers spoiling the experience this time.

 

[terry78]

The humor helped to balance out the seriousness of what was happening, the writers get kudos for that. **** they need to be the ones to actually right the next Freddy flick.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

The humor helped to balance out the seriousness of what was happening, the writers get kudos for that. **** they need to be the ones to actually right the next Freddy flick.

There's no point in writing another Freddy. You could get A list writers who've knocked it out of the park on their last 10 films but people will still piss and moan because 89 year old Robert Englund isn't playing Freddy anymore. Fanboys are a fickle thing.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Once again the actuals for the OS weekend came in higher than the estimates (61.1m>>60.3m). 'IT' opened in 10 new OS territories this weekend and delivered the biggest Horror OW ever in Mexico, Sweden, Portugal, Turkey, Israel & South Africa. While 'IT' dropped just 36% in the holdover markets. 'IT's BO run is unprecedented & absolutely amazing.

 

[righthooksrus86]

There's no point in writing another Freddy. You could get A list writers who've knocked it out of the park on their last 10 films but people will still piss and moan because 89 year old Robert Englund isn't playing Freddy anymore. Fanboys are a fickle thing.

That's a great point and 100% true...But it's one reason im happy we have 27 year old Bill Skasgard now to terrify a new generation of fanboys /girls.

 

[titansupes]

Saw it today... I thought this was very boring myself.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Saw it today... I thought this was very boring myself.

Really? Well, nothing is gonna please EVERYONE, so I guess you're one of the 4 people to dislike the film.

 

[titansupes]

Really? Well, nothing is gonna please EVERYONE, so I guess you're one of the 4 people to dislike the film.

I shall proudly argue with all of you until the end of time. Or not, I don't care.

But really-- super boring. All those first act scenes of a one of the kids going somewhere solo and It showing up to care them and go away again... Like, I get it, thematically. But boy was it repetitive and, after the first couple of times (even then) pretty dull.

It didn't help that I didn't find any of it scary, including the clown himself. I thought he was (and this will sound silly) kind of obvious. Like that opening when he's in the sewer talking to Georgie... He's so evil. His look, his voice. Like, duh. Ain't no kid talking to that.

I thought the kids falling out sequence was pretty forced, and just there because "Well, that's what happens at this point in a script".

Plus, this and Super 8, It Follows and definitely Stranger Things... All set in the 80's with kids fighting monsters in a small town (and their parents don't believe them/are absent). The characters in all of these (and their relationships) feel largely interchangeable. The main kid who's shy but brave and driven deep down, the charming chunky one, the coward, the smart ass, the girl who's more grown up than the others and has a ****** home life. The love triangle. Riding their bikes around and running into the bizarrely violent bullies. I've seen it all before. Except for Mike, who had virtually no character at all.

So yeah. Nothing here for me.

The small crowd (Tuesday afternoon audience) in my theatre seemed to be eating it up, though.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Like I said buddy, to each their own. I'm certainly not gonna try and convince you otherwise. The only thing I might say is where you talked about the characters from all these shows being interchangeable. IT did it LONG before these other properties, so you could argue that they were ripping off IT. I know it doesn't change your opinion of it. It was more just a statement.

 

[titansupes]

Like I said buddy, to each their own. I'm certainly not gonna try and convince you otherwise. The only thing I might say is where you talked about the characters from all these shows being interchangeable. IT did it LONG before these other properties, so you could argue that they were ripping off IT. I know it doesn't change your opinion of it. It was more just a statement.

I thought about that during the movie, and I appreciate that they'd be in a bit of a difficult spot-- Must keep fidelity to the book characters and relationships vs it's been done so much in the last X amount of years... But as someone who's never read the book or seen the TV movie, and thus has no attachment to it... All I saw was stock standard stuff, just with a different looking monster.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I thought about that during the movie, and I appreciate that they'd be in a bit of a difficult spot-- Must keep fidelity to the book characters and relationships vs it's been done so much in the last X amount of years... But as someone who's never read the book or seen the TV movie, and thus has no attachment to it... All I saw was stock standard stuff, just with a different looking monster.

Ah, so you really were going in as a blank slate. That's actually really cool that you can develop your opinion with zero baggage coming along with it. Hell, there's plenty of folks that that haven't read the book, but most people have at least seen the miniseries.

 

[DACrowe]

I think It does the dynamic between its characters in a fairly fresh way because (less so than the novel, thank God) it develops its children as on the cusp of adolescence and adulthood, and really deals with that feeling of impending loss. Things like The Goonies, Super 8, and It Follows (for now) revel in child and '80s iconography and it's all just a pleasant trip to the past. It really does deal with the idea of growing up, and being both afraid as a kid, and afraid of the future.

In any case, most audiences do not mind having similar stories repackaged or reworked for them. How else do you explain superhero movies everywhere.

 

[danoyse]

That's a great point and 100% true...But it's one reason im happy we have 27 year old Bill Skasgard now to terrify a new generation of fanboys /girls.

My 9-year-old nephew was on Cub Scout trip this weekend and my sister said all of the kids were peeking into anything resembling a sewer to see if there was a clown in there. And as far as she knows, none of them have been allowed to watch the movie yet.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

My 9-year-old nephew was on Cub Scout trip this weekend and my sister said all of the kids were peeking into anything resembling a sewer to see if there was a clown in there. And as far as she knows, none of them have been allowed to watch the movie yet.

What the hell?! They're braver than I. My grown ass won't go near a sewer grate that looks like the one from the movie, and I've been that way since the miniseries in '90.

 

[terry78]

Clowns out in the open are the ones you need to worry about.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Saw it again for the second time today and I really think it's my favorite of the year so far. I expect either Star Wars or The Shape of Water will take the top spot, but so far IT has made me a very happy horror hound.

I noticed the lady in the library on today's viewing. Missed her the first time and, yeah, it's the most unsettling bit in the film. WTF was going on there?

 

[terry78]

Either a possession via Pennywise or she never existed and that was him in a human form working his magic on Ben.

She's already become a meme.

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[Kane52630]

I noticed that on my first viewing, everyone in that library was frozen in time.

 

[righthooksrus86]

Saw it again for the second time today and I really think it's my favorite of the year so far. I expect either Star Wars or The Shape of Water will take the top spot, but so far IT has made me a very happy horror hound.

I noticed the lady in the library on today's viewing. Missed her the first time and, yeah, it's the most unsettling bit in the film. WTF was going on there?

Yea me too might very well be my favorite movie of 2017 so far, though I havent seen Spiderman yet but I've seen plenty others this year and It is my favorite by far.

I too noticed the lady in the library acting strangely I immediately assumed that was Pennywise having his fun.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I don't know where my head was at during my first screening, but there was tons of stuff I missed. I completely missed that all the adults are watching the same TV show which explains their clueless attitude to the horrors of Pennywise.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Aside from the film being overly mediocre at best, was anyone else weirded out that the 15 year old girl was sexualized by every single character in the movie? (except for Pennywise, oddly enough.) I mean, other than the fact she's the female lead in the film and it'd be nice if women on screen could be represented responsibly. But, my god, she's 15 and her characterization isn't much beyond being sexually desired or sexually shamed by everyone and then being reduced to a one dimensional damsel in distress who is saved by a boy fulfilling his fantasy with her without consent...and we are supposed to accept this as being romantic or something?