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Me and my friend have a huge on going debate about these two wonderful ladies of Marvel. He says Storm is Goddess and can destroy the planet if she chooses. I found out through some reseach that she can't drop the weather below zero. It says it on Wikepedia. This is a run down of their powers for your review FYI.

Rogue:

Solar Flare: Rogue's mutant powers enable her to absorb solar and other radiation to generate the process of ionized matter (usually air) through a mentally-triggered unknown biochemical process so that it is converted to plasma, the superheated state of matter. Plasma is the state in which matter making up the sun exists; hence, Rogue refers to her projecting “solar fire”. Hence she can sheath her body in flame.
  • Flight: can use her powers to create super-heated air currents which push her forward through the air, enabling her to fly. Sometimes this super-heated air is visible as a trail of flame behind Rogue. The upper limit to the speed Rogue can achieve in flight is not yet known, although it is known to be greater than that of the Angel, who can reach 150 miles per hour.
  • Plasma Blasts: ability to project the flames she generates at powerful blasts of energy.
  • Plasma Emanation: Rogue can generate plasma temperatures which match those that can be generated by the Human Torch, reaching about 1,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit at maximum level. She can also use her power in a massive blast similar to Johnny Storm's "Nova Burst". However, Rogue has much more control over the area of effect, enough to where one person may feel like they have been sunbathing all day to total incineration of another target.
  • Heat Signature Sense: ability to sense beings by the heat signature that they give off.
  • Plasma Shield: ability to manipulate the plasma around her to form an aura that can melt incoming bullets are stave off other attacks.
Solar Shielding Psi-field: She is protected from the radiation she emits by a short-range psionic force field which automatically comes into being whenever air friction, and also prevents excessive amounts of light from the plasma from reaching her eyes so as to blind or damage them. Rogue's body emits a protective field whenever she uses her powers. However, it is speculated that she can generate power in excess of her natural protection.

Storm:

Known Powers: Storm is an Alpha-level mutant(Possibly an Omega Level Mutant)to be further explaned.
Atmokinesis: possesses the psionic ability to manipulate the weather patterns over the entire planet (or any planet she is on). She can stimulate the creation of any form of percipitation (rain, snow, sleet, hail & fog). She can create winds of strengths ranging up to hurricane force, and can raise or lower the temperature and humidity around her. She can disperse natural storms so as to create clear weather. Storm can cause the weather to change in an area around her, or she could create atmosphere effects in a beam-like path from her hand or hands. Storm’s control over the atmosphere is such that she can create certain effects over a specific area while shielding smaller areas within that region. For example, she can create a rainstorm around herself but prevent the raindrops from touching her. Storm can also create atmospheric phenomena over very small areas, such as creating a rainstorm small enough to water a single potted plant.
Storm can only manipulate weather patterns as they exist in nature. For example, she can end a drought in one area by creating torrential rains there, but that would necessitate robbing all available moisture from the surrounding areas. Storm is not able to create atmospheric conditions that do not exist naturally on the planet she is on. For example, Storm is unable to lower temperatures as far as absolute zero or raise them to solar intensities on Earth.
The limit to the size of the area over which Storm can manipulate the weather was not known for quite some time. However, she once diverted the jet stream so as to create storms over the entire East Coast of the United States. Then in Uncanny X-Men - the New Age, She created massive hyperstorms that nearly would have covered the whole planet in ice, while she was under the telepathic control of a then mind-controlled Marvel Girl; it was then revealed that Storm has control over the entire planet. She can also create weather effects within indoor areas or within artificially maintained environments. Storm's ability to manipulate the weather in her immediate vicinity is affected by her emotions; hence, if she does not maintain control, a fit of rage might induce a destructive storm.
Some other abilites she uses by means of Atmokinesis:
  • Electrical Sight: Storm is also able to alter her visual perception so as to perceive electrical energy patterns as well as those factors responsible for existing meteorological phenomena in her surrounding environment.
  • Flight: Storm can fly through the air by causing herself to be supported and propelled by wind currents. Storm can thus travel as fast as any wind can, and has reached speeds up to 300 miles per hour(Up to 800 miles per hour but can cause draining affects after a long time period). Her power over the atmosphere enables her to breathe at any speed, protect her from air friction, and protect her from cold. Storm can carry aloft an as yet undetermined amount of weight while being borne aloft by the wind.
  • Weather Prediction: Storm has the added ability to know the patterns of weather by instinct so that any given time, she can predict the weather on any planet she is on.
  • Lightning Channeling: she can create lightning and other electrical atmospheric phenomena either by calling down lightning from the sky or directly from her hands.
  • Body Temperature Control: ability to change her internal and external body temperature to match that of the current outside atmosphere, so that she wont suffer any ill effects from the change of atmosphere. The ability is involuntary and natural, although somewhat limited.
Known Abilities: Extraordinary ability at picking locks and pockets, escape artist, marksman with handguns. She is an experienced hand-to-hand combatant, trained by Wolverine. Ororo is also an excellent gardener owing to her supernatural abilities and has her own botanical gardens at the Xavier Mansion.

Considering Storm is from a line of African Priestesses she has the potential to use sorcery. She was never taught to use this 'White' magic, most likely because she never knew anyone to explain the ancestral knowledge required. Though Strom has not shown this ability it is known that in an alternate timeline she was well versed in it, and in fact is the one that taught Magik (Illyana Rasputina) 'white' magic.
Sorcery (Potentially): Storm possesses considerable potential magical abilities, having been born of a long line of white haired, blue-eyed priestesses. The number of magical effects that she can create has yet to be cataloged, but it is known that she can cast and counteract spells and heal, teleport, astral travel, shield, transform matter and fire eldritch energy.

Who do you guys think will win in a battle? I think Rogue will win because once she touches Storm it's a wrap.:spidey:
 
by the time storm gets out her dramatic lines and waits for her eyes to white out before doing anything, rogue would already have her bare hands on her forehead absorbing the life out of her. lets just hope she doesnt absorb ebonics too.
 
Rogue has more powers than touching people. She could easily melt Storm with million degree plasma
 
Yeah right, storm can call a storm with a snap of her fingers, also she could hold her back or down with a powerful wind force, and then fry her.
 
The Weather God said:
Storm would have her fried, baked, and stirred before rogue reaches her
This comic issue says different:

The touchers: Storm and Rogue

Category: Touch as a weapon

Issue: Uncanny X-Men #158

Set up: Storm, Wolverine, and Carol Danvers infiltrated the pentagon. But they bumped into Rogue. Danvers and Rogue recognized one another and the battle was on. In the second phase of the battle, Rogue laughed off Storm's full power lightning :O bolt and took off her gloves.

The touch: Rogue put both bare hands on Storm's wrists.

Result: Storm felt a sudden dissolution of self and went unconscious. Rogue absorbed Storm but was unable to control Storm's weather powers. Weather exploded out of control. Soon, Storm was able to talk while Rogue was generating a flash flood. Storm got her powers back later.
 
yeah this ones a bit of a no brainer.
Storm and Rogue are a good enough match at the moment as it is, but all Rogue needs to do is just touch Storm and she gains all of her powers and experience as well.
 
Exploding Boy said:
Rogue has more powers than touching people. She could easily melt Storm with million degree plasma
Exactly:up: :) People actually have no knowledge of the damage Rogue can do. Plus the fact that she is unpredictable. She isn't an Omega, but what if she touches one?:confused: and doesnt let go? Will she be one?
Plus I heard Sunfire is an Alpha level mutant, isn't Storm an alpha level mutant?
 
With Ms. Marvel powers Rogue would win 10/10. And with Sunfire powers I say she still wins 8.5/10
 
Rogue's Hand said:
This comic issue says different:

The touchers: Storm and Rogue

Category: Touch as a weapon

Issue: Uncanny X-Men #158

Set up: Storm, Wolverine, and Carol Danvers infiltrated the pentagon. But they bumped into Rogue. Danvers and Rogue recognized one another and the battle was on. In the second phase of the battle, Rogue laughed off Storm's full power lightning :O bolt and took off her gloves.

The touch: Rogue put both bare hands on Storm's wrists.

Result: Storm felt a sudden dissolution of self and went unconscious. Rogue absorbed Storm but was unable to control Storm's weather powers. Weather exploded out of control. Soon, Storm was able to talk while Rogue was generating a flash flood. Storm got her powers back later.

Lightning isen't storm's only power, the witers just made her lose. But storm could definitly beat rogue. Storm, could flash freeze her, blow her up with air pressure, or drown her.
 
The Weather God said:
Lightning isen't storm's only power, the witers just made her lose. But storm could definitly beat rogue. Storm, could flash freeze her, blow her up with air pressure, or drown her.
And what's Rogue going to do? Just stand there and take it :rolleyes:
 
Does it work instantly? No. That gives Rogue time to melt Storm.

And really. Air pressure? How often does Storm do that? Im not saying she can't or she won't. But it won't be her first attack.
 
Exploding Boy said:
Does it work instantly? No. That gives Rogue time to melt Storm.

And really. Air pressure? How often does Storm do that? Im not saying she can't or she won't. But it won't be her first attack.

Which is exactly why i said she could hold her down with a powerful wind force until she calls one up. Trust me.... storm is unpredictable too.
 
I don't like to get into these arguments but Storm could easily stay out of Rogue's reach with her much faster flight speed combined with hurricane force winds directed at Rogue.

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S7ilver said:
I don't like to get into these arguments but Storm could easily stay out of Rogue's reach with her much faster flight speed combined with hurricane force winds directed at Rogue.

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Thankyou

Rogue can fly though her 'powerfull wind force'

No she can't
 
S7ilver said:
I don't like to get into these arguments but Storm could easily stay out of Rogue's reach with her much faster flight speed combined with hurricane force winds directed at Rogue.

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But thats before she had sunfires powers.
On her own, without any absorbed powers i think Rogue wouldn't get the oportunity to even touch storm.
Sunfire is an incredibly powerful mutant. His powers maxed out is pretty much Nuke level. Rogue could just incinerate her just as fast as she could try anything. It would be a bloody short fight whatever the outcome.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
But thats before she had sunfires powers.
On her own, without any absorbed powers i think Rogue wouldn't get the oportunity to even touch storm.
Sunfire is an incredibly powerful mutant. His powers maxed out is pretty much Nuke level. Rogue could just incinerate her just as fast as she could try anything. It would be a bloody short fight whatever the outcome.

Storm can fly at immense speed, so I doubt she'll get the chance to nuke her. Or storm could probrobly counter attack that nuke blast before it reaches her. Also sunfire power works off the sun so all storm has to do is block it with a thunderstorm so she can't get that powerful.
 
I know, that was just a response to Rogue's Hand ;P

"In the second phase of the battle, Rogue laughed off Storm's full power lightning bolt and took off her gloves."

Plus, since Rogue was unable to control Storm's powers but was able to control Sunfire's..Doesn't that mean Storm's powers are stronger then his?
 
The Weather God said:
Storm can fly at immense speed, so I doubt she'll get the chance to nuke her. Or storm could probrobly counter attack that nuke blast before it reaches her.
She can counter attack a nuke? wtf?
u cant outrun a nuke or counter attack one... shed b incinerated instantaneously.
 
And its not like if you cover the sun Rogue would become weak. Sunfire has used his powers at night and inside of buildings and in the dark. If Storm did make a thunderstorm that would just give Rogue more time to melt her.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
She can counter attack a nuke? wtf?
u cant outrun a nuke or counter attack one... shed b incinerated instantaneously.

Hey it's just a thought :O storm's even surprized me with blocking telepathy, so I won't doubt her.
 
Exploding Boy said:
And its not like if you cover the sun Rogue would become weak. Sunfire has used his powers at night and inside of buildings and in the dark. If Storm did make a thunderstorm that would just give Rogue more time to melt her.

Like i've said before, storm can call a thunderstorm with a snap of her fingers, so i doubt she'd be near her...and who say's she can't move while calling one up?
 

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