Storm Vs Thor

[OZONE]

Ur understanding it wrong, its saying that her weather condition will not act as a single situation. MEANING if she does make it rain weather patters will be affected. A Supercell over an area will affect surrounding areas perhaps undesirably, whereas thor is an isolator manipulator, confining conditions to one area and only that area. Bringing water do a desert would definatly require water from somewhere, and would definately use the water that some other place would have needed. Thor would use water from the air but he would/doesnt need to worry about other areas, his desired area would be just that. So I semi agree with you, but that fact doesnt limit storm herself, just proves she would have to worry about hurting other people, where thor doesnt.

 

[PemLam]

I give up...Thor's absolute control versus Storm's limited manipulation...no contest.

 

[OZONE]

Thor would win hand to hand and if Storm was tired of evading and couldnt somehow find a way to throw him off guard. PERIOD So funy i agree with you on most points, just the no contest thing well that doesnt make sense.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

If Thor is controlling the weather in an area then Storm cannot connect with it and essentially has no powers until Thor stops controlling it or until she gets out of the area he is controlling. If she is controlling the weather when Thor tries then her control ends and it ends up in Thor's control. She cannot fly and cannot even generate a spark. It is however probable that Thor could allow her to control the weather as well if he chose.

 

[OZONE]

SIlicon that makes no sense, his powers dont take away from her powers! First of all weather on earth will always be here, controlling weather Thor would have to Actively change the earths Normal existing weather and would have to actively continue to change it without stopping or doing anything else. Storm would always be able to be intune with the weather and furthermore would detect Thors presence because whether she chose to be affected or not she would be and the weather would be affected by her distress. He in no way could prevent her from using her powers it wouldnt work, he would have to control every weather phenomena in the entire solar systemSSS. And if he tried he would only complicate his true mission, considering hes not working against storm, but earths natrual pattern based on our moon, planets, ocean cureents, mountains, trees and everything else, even as a god he would have to destroy the entire planet in a core explosion to prevent storm from using her powers and he would have no weather power if he did that (on earth anyway). Example...say Thor decided he wanted to try and stop storm how would he? Control earths weather? well he could possibly control vast majorities of the weather, however the natural patters from which they've existed from the time of Earths origin would still try and get it back to homeostasis even while he was changing it, whether every instant he changed something, and it wouldnt be just wind that would be changing it, Trees deliver oxygen to the air, oceans seas bays deliver vapor to the atmosphere, He would first have to destroy every living thing on this Earth, EVERYTHING. and storm herself would end up probably dying but so would the rest of the earth, and If earth became solid stone, the gases would explode and alter every other planet in the Milkyway, including Our own sun. So your logic is well just dumb. He couldnt stop someone who was born on earth, its like learning a language and moving to that country, you may know the language but you will never be native. IT COULDNT HAPPEN. Earth is a living planet, its only surviving because of Liquid water and vapor preventing the sun from drying up and explosive gases from remaining here. And if that happened the gravitational shift would weaken the pull from the sun and cause the blackholes to consume even him.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Actually, Thor flat out controls weather world wide at a whim, and since it literally listens to him, it will just do as he says.

If Storm wants to do something with it, and Thor doesn't want her to, it's not a question of who gets what. Thor's domain over weather will simply disallow her from doing it.

 

[OZONE]

ITs not dominion over the weather anymore it would be dominion over every earth physics. Dumdum listen, do you think weather is just an existance by itself? No weather is a product of having liquid water keeping that plasma core from heating up the ground. HELLO he doesnt control magma, plate techtonics, gravity, magnetism nor does he control life. Think before you type please. Thor could control Evey weather system in the world, but weather isnt born from other weather, it is a result of our earths vegitation and Planetary structure. Not the other way around silly. There is a comic issue where storm feels the pain of a dying tree on the xmansion estate, can thor detect that? is he in synch with that? HAHAHA nope therefore he cant do it. Weather doesnt act alone

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I like that, he calls me a "Dumdum" when it comes to physics. Talk about calling the kettle black.

Methinks your fanboyism is clouding your higher brain function.

 

[OZONE]

oops Im so sorry i didnt mean u were a dumdum, i mean that statment, i wasnt attacking u personally and I appologize for not seeing that, for real.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I wouldn't recommend getting all worked up over it either like this.

Apology accepted.

While of all people on the Hype, I'm probably one of the most capable people of understanding weather patterns and the physics behind them, so let me say it this way. Thor isn't a physics based being. His domain is powered by magic, and thus, what he can do is not inhibited by mathematics like Storm, as he literally is one of the people who commands the sky, not manipulates it.

When I said the weather listens to Thor, it wasn't a figurative saying. He literally commands it as his domain and right as a child of Gaea. Storm merely manipulates factors in the weather that Thor can bend and break upon command.

 

[OZONE]

No that makes no sense (to me anyway). Magic isnt physics it is a defiant of physics, however just because he is magic wouldnt make earth magic, he cant turn earth into a magical entity. He Uses MAGICAL forces to defy perhaps, or more explainingly to get around physics on earth. I agree that weather may obey his every whim as a peasant obeys a king, however regardless of his feats he would have to get Earth on the same magical level to reconfigure his greatness to be a supreme earth being, in that everything would bow to him. He doesnt command the sky, the sky exists because of space, he controls Weather when whether is available or he has the materials to create it. I mean to say that, if he was going to rule the winds, he would first have to rule that which creates them, earth spins, so everything around it plays catch up as if u spin a ball underwater, the ball is spinning but the water around it is catching up to it following its same motion. Does that make sense? But i have a question. Say ur a dad, who controls ur childs life, now u may govern his actions but u cant govern his thoughts, the same with storm. She isnt seperate from the weather, and I know you say Thor can do whatever he wants with the weather and i truly believe you, truly truly. But storm is slightly different. The weather also controls her, if weather patters defy nature (as with Arkon) it will resound in her of the distress. OMG you know if he did change the weather she would still be in tune, you know why. If he did change the weather, unnaturally the weather would tell her, and the new weather would then become her weather. AAnd i know what your going to say, she cant create abnormal weather...AND YOUR RIGHT, but she didnt create it, yet she will still feel it and will be then in tune with it even if it causes her distress every bit of the way. So no matter what he changes Storm will know it and will become in tune with it, because it is her essence. I know u probably think im one sided, but i actually like hearing other sides, sometimes im wrong sometimes im right, but you never know til u ask questions or try right?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

A supreme Earth being wouldn't be what's needed in the Marvel Universe to control something akin to weather.

Your actually setting guidelines for Thor that do not exist as an explanation for him to being with.


While you and I agree that magic isn't even close to the same as physics, you must then realize that magic doesn't actually have some form of limit we can place on it like physics.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

WOW.

People are actually debating this? And at the time of this posting 25 people voted for Storm?

Dimwits.

Since they aren't going to take the other out with lightning or weather conditions, discussion of weather control is a moot point. Thor's Hulk-class strength just might be the game winner. Ya think?

 

[OZONE]

thats what i said, i agree with you about the magic thing. I agree that it would defy physics. or would just not even care, but while he doesnt need physics, the rest of the marvel earth still is living in it. Its like Scarlet witches chaos magic. That girl can do whatever she wants, Like proteus can alter anything but even altering it it is only his world, and is only as long as he is changing it, once he stopped it would go away right? the damage would be done, but the pieces would be as before the magic.? I think honestly that Thor if he wanted and if there were no warning, would wreak havoc on weather with his magic, but its HIS magic which is not everyone elses. Its like comparing a mutant to a non mutant, the mutants powers if use on a person would affect the person, but wouldnt change the person. The magic for him would only be that he could defy nature in that the meterological circumastance would not coinside with the pressure systems that cause them. Like what if he decided to make tornados all over, im sure he could do it, but while his magic is governing the weather systems, everything else would be actively adapting/and going against it. Like Garrok, when he changed the savage lands to that grey matter, yes the life was encased in his magical strength, but it then becomes him controlling himself. When he was defeated though the affects were still there things were back to normal.

 

[OZONE]

LOL Von, it doesnt matter how hard you hit, or how hard u can hit...you actually have to hit, duh. You could be the strongest thing ever conceived, but if you cant hit ur target, or ur target evades you...ur just a big dum slow guy right?

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yes but if your target can't deal any damage to you....it's a draw right?

 

[OZONE]

I have a question not about storm or thor though. What if Juggernaut, Colossus, Hulk and Thing were to battle Kitty pride, who would win? Or if they battled Mr Fantastic. She can fase through anything, and he is like super stretchy. Or what about the blob or gladiator? How could these guys win against someone who really can just decide to phase through u. And what about that girl who turns into gas? How would these seemingly infinately strong guys battle someone, who really could care less about their strength?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Actually, Thor's not only damn fast, he's extremely accurate with hand to hand combat from across the centuries, who's only godly superior is Hercules himself. With an invincible stamina, and extremely fast reflexes, Storm's only saving grace is she's probably slightly faster for the first five to ten minutes. And that's if Thor doesn't just try throwing something at her like his hammer.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

LOL Von, it doesnt matter how hard you hit, or how hard u can hit...you actually have to hit, duh. You could be the strongest thing ever conceived, but if you cant hit ur target, or ur target evades you...ur just a big dum slow guy right?

That's cute. Are you saying that Thor can't hit Storm? "Cause if you are I'm sure there's a lotta folks here who can make you a list of individuals much quicker than Storm that Thor has decimated. He's a God with a mystic Hammer he can throw at Mach speed. Storm is a woman with limited weather control. Please.

 

[OZONE]

and Rogue, who in a single instant of contact absorbs your predominant power? Imagin being punch bare handed by the hulk agains rogues stomach or something like that. His power would shift even if small into her, making her part that person. I mean if i was rogue id walk around butt neked and beg someone to just touch me and see what happens. like for every one second its like a minute of time she has the power right?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Actually, if Hulk punched her, she'd die. Rogue couldn't absorb that fast, and probably couldn't pull enough or weaken Hulk enough to matter.

 

[OZONE]

Accuracy has nothing to do with it. A sniper can aim for a target, but if a person or a bird gets in the way...he is still accurate, just something came in between. And his hammer doesnt move at lightning speed or anything drastic, and stamina is soley based on your own body and ur own abilities, super stamina for thor doesnt take away stamina for storm or make her any less. Who is better a cross country runner or a sprinter? Its whatever the situation calls for, besides why should storm run, just create something that will evade an attack opposite from which is coming, evade a lightning attack by putting something in its path, block wind by something else. Often you dont need a stronger attack to win, hence u can move a boulder with a small stone and a piece of board right??

 

[OZONE]

yes but rogue does have some degree of superhuman strength, she may take the punch not to well at first but she can take a hit and she has....come on give a gal a little credit

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Ozone, you do understand that in any conflict in almost any imaginable environment that Thor wouldn't take 60 seconds to completely incapacitate Storm....don't you??

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I have a question not about storm or thor though. What if Juggernaut, Colossus, Hulk and Thing were to battle Kitty pride, who would win? Or if they battled Mr Fantastic. She can fase through anything, and he is like super stretchy. Or what about the blob or gladiator? How could these guys win against someone who really can just decide to phase through u. And what about that girl who turns into gas? How would these seemingly infinately strong guys battle someone, who really could care less about their strength?

Do you know anything about comics? I'm not asking to be a dick, I'm just asking because I'm curious as to how much you know.

Very little would happen to Juggernaut and the Hulk that they couldn't recover from. Kitty Pride wouldn't want to hurt Colssus and I'm pretty sure she could hurt the Thing but not sure to what extent.