strange dilema, need input

[Mr. Credible]

okay, so i met this girl at work about a month or two ago, and she was gorgeous, nice, polite, smart, friendly, a virgin (at 25) etc, etc... totally the kind of girl you'd like to marry if you could... so, i talked to her almost every morning for the last month or so, and finally asked her out...

she said no, but nicely... she asked me if i was a religious guy, more specifically, if i was 'born again', and 'saved', i was honest, and said no, but ii told her i have all the same qualities of a religious person, just without believeing in the mythology... she said 'sorry, but those are the only kinds of guys i'd consider dating.'

after a few awkward mornings seeing her at work, she said that she thought i was one of the sweetest guys she'd ever met, and would really like to take me up on my offer to take her out, i was thrilled, until she handed me a flyer for her church. she said if i'd come to church with her, and 'get to know the lord', then she'd get to know me, and we could date...

now i'm on the fence, i think i'll just tell her the truth, that i'm not religious, and don't plan on being, but there's the little devil on the other shoulder telling me to go to church with her just to spend some time with her and see what happens. she really is a great girl, and i'd hate to pass up the oppurtunity to spend some time with her outside of my job... maybe take her out for drinks and see if she has a naughty side?

...thoughts? suggestions?

 

[PhePhe112]

i'd go, what have you got to lose?? if it still doesn't appeal to you then atleast you know you gave it a shot.

 

[StrainedEyes]

If she is taking you to church for a date, then no she has no naughty side. And if that's all you are looking for, go for someone else so you don't ruin her soul.

 

[T'Jai]

false pretense is never a good way to start a potential ant thing eventually you will be called out, better to keep working on her the way you have been if the vibe is that strong she'll come around she already went part of the way...
and one day at church ain't gonna kill you just keep it on the up and up to avoid screwing the pooch from the jump.

I find keeping your side of the street clean is always the best policy

 

[bunk]

If you don't think there's a chance you'll ever join "the team", I would suggest you tell her no and save yourself the irritation of constant attempts at conversion. You'll only end up resenting her. It's not likely she'd give it up unless she was married either.

 

[Mr. Credible]

It's funny how it's strange to be a virgin before marriage these days...anyhoo. I think you should definitely go to church with her, it will fill you with a great sense of calm. You'll really like it and you'll get a free date.

well, i've been to church more than a few times, with my mom... she 'requested' we go on mother's day, and christmas, and easter... and i like to make my mom happy, so... but, i always found myself tuning out, and trying to pick good looking girls out of the crowd.

 

[Calvin]

Do it out of spite, and as soon as you take her virginity, recant! She's most likely an idiot deep down, if she's willing to let things like that dictate her dating habits, so just do it for the hell of it and then rub it in her face that you didn't really buy any of that s**t.

 

[Mr. Credible]

If you don't think there's a chance you'll ever join "the team", I would suggest you tell her no and save yourself the irritation of constant attempts at conversion. You'll only end up resenting her. It's not likely she'd give it up unless she was married either.

well, you never know... she might have a bad side just dying to get out, and i think i'm the perfect guy to bring it out of her. like i said, i'm a nice guy, and i embody all of her religion's principles, i just don't embrace the religion, and i think she can see this... so, i think if i can compromise a little, she can, too.

that said, i'm not going to church, i'm just going to tell her that as much as i like her, it's not worth desicrating (sp?) her religion (ie: me faking liking church) to spend time with her. i think she'll like that.

i'll just tell her the truth, that religion is not for me, but if she wants to get together, she has my number... i think i'm the perfect middle ground of "bad-boy" that most girls look for, but i'm nice enough to be the "bad-boy" for a church girl... does that make sense?

 

[Mr. Credible]

Heh, that's just the desires of your body messing with your mind. When you go to church you must sing and relax. Soon enough you will feel the spirit of Christ filling your body. It's an unbelievable calm. I know what you mean Mr. Credible, most people I talk to just go to church to save themselves from hell. They might as well not go, true salvation comes from oneness with God.

i appreciate what you're saying, but trust me, i'll never be a religious guy... like i said, i can appreciate the morals of the stories the bible tells, but i'll never believe they actually happened.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Do it out of spite, and as soon as you take her virginity, recant! She's most likely an idiot deep down, if she's willing to let things like that dictate her dating habits, so just do it for the hell of it and then rub it in her face that you didn't really buy any of that s**t.

wow, and i thought i was a bastard for just wanting to go to church to get to know her better and hang out with her... thanks for making me feel like less of a *****tain.

 

[fu manchu]

I would listen to the little devil on my shoulder and go to church and see where it goes.





*waiting for the Mr. Credible "So I joined a Cult" thread*

 

[Hunter Rider]

Sounds like she wants to convert you not date you,she is gonna want everything on her terms and it can;t work that way unless you would really consider dating her all the way to marriage.

 

[Mr. Credible]

I would listen to the little devil on my shoulder and go to church and see where it goes.





*waiting for the Mr. Credible "So I joined a Cult" thread*

actually, she asked me if she thought i thought she was crazy for giving me that flyer and note, and i said yes, i thought she was totally nuts... but i told her i dug it (i fibbed)

then i asked her if she handled snakes or anything, she said no... but she said her church really "gets into the spirit" of it... so...

 

[Mr. Credible]

Sounds like she wants to convert you not date you,she is gonna want everything on her terms and it can;t work that way unless you would really consider dating her all the way to marriage.

well, like i said, i'd be willing to go all the way to marriage with a girl like this (read: not a ****e, like 90% of girls today)... i think she just needs to compromise by dating a guy who isn't "saved" (but who is still a good guy, given the right circumstances)

 

[StrainedEyes]

well, you never know... she might have a bad side just dying to get out, and i think i'm the perfect guy to bring it out of her. like i said, i'm a nice guy, and i embody all of her religion's principles, i just don't embrace the religion, and i think she can see this... so, i think if i can compromise a little, she can, too.

I'm pretty sure a 'nice guy who embodies religious principles' wouldn't be looking to be the guy to bring out her dirty side. I'm sure you can find someone willing to play the "Mr. Credible take me home" game.

If you actually like her and can see a future, then yes tell her the truth and persue her, but honestly if you are just looking to find her naughty side, find a girl who doesn't have strong religious beliefs. There's plenty of them.

 

[Calvin]

I pity you, your life is going to be a short painful blemish in histroy. You won't be saved and your legacy will be nothing but dishonorable actions.

Egad! Not histroy!

 

[Hunter Rider]

well, like i said, i'd be willing to go all the way to marriage with a girl like this (read: not a ****e, like 90% of girls today)... i think she just needs to compromise by dating a guy who isn't "saved" (but who is still a good guy, given the right circumstances)

That's the thing though,it seems she isn't into compromise,she wants a church guy and are you willing even if she relented and made a compromise to have a look don't touch relationship with her until marriage ?

 

[Mr. Credible]

Don't base what you know is right or wrong off of others. It all about faith my friend.

believe me, i don't... but my faith is based on things that are more... obtainable.

 

[Calvin]

Don't base what you know is right or wrong off of others.

So then you agree he shouldn't base if off of what others have written in a book called the bible, right? Because that would be basing his knowledge of right or wrong off of others.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Don't go. It sounds like the only way you could get to date her is by faking to believe in something you don't, and that would never work out.

 

[Mr. Credible]

That's the thing though,it seems she isn't into compromise,she wants a church guy and are you willing even if she relented and made a compromise to have a look don't touch relationship with her until marriage ?

i totally couldn't have a "touchless" relationship... that's one of the things i'd hope she'd 'compromise' on. i just figure that she's never been in love, because she can't find a guy to put up with her excentricities (sp?), or the guys she's dated are too 'goody-goody' for her own good, she needs a nice median, like me. not a complete butthole, and not a total wuss, either...

as great as she is, though, i could put up with her demands until she loves me enough to go all the way... i know that sounds shallow, but that's not how i mean it.

 

[Mr. Credible]

So then you agree he shouldn't base if off of what others have written in a book called the bible, right? Because that would be basing his knowledge of right or wrong off of others.

that's a great point... but for another thread, i'm afraid.

 

[terry78]

i totally couldn't have a "touchless" relationship... that's one of the things i'd hope she'd 'compromise' on. i just figure that she's never been in love, because she can't find a guy to put up with her excentricities (sp?), or the guys she's dated are too 'goody-goody' for her own good, she needs a nice median, like me. not a complete butthole, and not a total wuss, either...

as great as she is, though, i could put up with her demands until she loves me enough to go all the way... i know that sounds shallow, but that's not how i mean it.

Then once you get the drawers, drop her like a hot potato. That's Studmuffin Basic 101.

 

[Hunter Rider]

i totally couldn't have a "touchless" relationship... that's one of the things i'd hope she'd 'compromise' on. i just figure that she's never been in love, because she can't find a guy to put up with her excentricities (sp?), or the guys she's dated are too 'goody-goody' for her own good, she needs a nice median, like me. not a complete butthole, and not a total wuss, either...

as great as she is, though, i could put up with her demands until she loves me enough to go all the way... i know that sounds shallow, but that's not how i mean it.

Taking this all in i'd suggest going to the church with her,you never know you may enjoy it and just see how it goes,maybe go for a drink after and get to know her better and gauge from there if it is a relationship you feel has potential enough to invest a lot of time and effort into.

 

[Hades]

Prostitute of the lord.

Jesus would be happy.