Stupid People Doing Stupid Things Thread - Part 2

[KevanG]

Okay but this states outright it's *scary voice* GENETICALLY MODIFIED!!!

 

[Teelie]

And I still don't care.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Hey, Get A Load Of This Evil Doctor

The Washington Post has a profile today of Dr. Jack Wolfson, an Arizona cardiologist and holistic medicine, uh, doer or whatever, who's made something of a name for himself by providing a flimsy, fraudulent rime of expertish cover to the reprehensible, morally criminal anti-vaccination crowd in the U.S. It's really something! Which is a way of saying that, if you read it, it will make you punch a hole in something and mutter things under your breath that will include the word "prison."

The claims of this lunatic fringe have been debunked so utterly, repeatedly, and absolutely, by literally every single credible authority that has ever, ever, ever examined them, that to acknowledge their existence, even for the purpose of repudiating them, is to lend them a credibility they will never come close to earning for themselves. Unfortunately, the not-completely-derelict segment of the populace occasionally is forced to engage with the stupid, baseless conspiranoia gibberings of these "anti-vax" s***heads, for the sole reason that the proliferation of these gibberings does active harm to the human race—by providing vectors for harmful diseases such as, for example, the measles, currently doing its thing in a California populace left exposed by gaps willfully blasted into herd immunity by the state's many affluent anti-vax morons. And so it is that a psychotic clownfraud like Jack Wolfson must be treated with more seriousness than the sad raving crazy person wearing a sandwich board in your local city intersection: Wolfson, unlike that feverish, bad-smelling outcast, is an actual danger to the public.

The first point that must be made, as the Post points out, is that Wolfson is neither an infectious disease specialist, nor an epidemiologist, nor a practitioner of any other branch of medicine that would give him more insight into the efficacy of vaccines than the unanimous body of credible scientific and medical authorities who have disproven every goddamn letter of every claim made by anti-vaxxers. He is a trained cardiologist. He has as much to say about vaccination as a proctologist does about macular degeneration. Not that this makes too much of a difference, mind you—he could be King Of Virus Doctors, and if he was saying crap like this, he'd still belong in a f***ing circus, or a jail cell, or an inpatient mental health facility:

He said viruses — not vaccines — are a part of the natural world. "Unfortunately, they mean that some people get sick and some people die," he said. "But the reality is that we can't inject our children with chemicals."

Yeah, "chemicals" is a good place to draw the line, when it comes to what we will or won't put into our kids. I mean, sure, they'll die in about three minutes from suffocation, but at least they won't get any of those spooky chemicals like oxygen and nitrogen inside their pure little bodies, which are made up entirely of chemicals.

Oh, but maybe he means spooky non-nature chemicals. Good thing literally none of those exist or will ever exist.

Let's play a fun game, here. Let's pretend he was talking about any other harmful part of the natural world, rather than viruses. Here.

He said hurricanes — not storm shelters — are a part of the natural world. "Unfortunately, they mean that some people get injured and some people die," he said. "But the reality is that we can't stick our children in enclosed spaces."

He said parasites — not sanitation — are a part of the natural world. "Unfortunately, they mean that some people get worms and some people die," he said. "But the reality is that we can't wash our children's hands with soap."

He said bear attacks — not walls — are a part of the natural world. "Unfortunately, they mean that some people get mauled and some people die," he said. "But the reality is that we can't obstruct our children's view of nature."

He said terminal ignorance — not the preservation of knowledge for future generations — is a part of the natural world. "Unfortunately, this means that some people eat poisonous plants and some people die," he said. "But the reality is that we can't teach our children the stuff we've figured out."

Lightning. Subzero temperatures. Food poisoning. Poison ivy. Dangerous creeps who want to steal little kids away from their families and do vile stuff to them. All parts of "the natural world" from which reasonable people protect their children, via reasonable applications of the knowledge and technology we've developed in all the millennia since the perilous crap-smeared Paleolithic Age this moral dwarf and his bats*** compatriots point to as an imaginary purer time while withholding harmless and beneficial medicine from their goddamn children. Does Jack Wolfson crap in the woods? Endurance-hunt bison across the f***ing plains? Medicate myocardial infarctions with the judicious application of chanting and human sacrifice?

No. Of course he does not. And so a very stupid person might be tempted to conclude that Dr. Wolfson's selective adoption of modern practices is a sign of rigor, of an admirable skepticism, if not for the fact that vaccination might well be the most unambiguously good thing human beings ever came up with.

Amid this outbreak, Wolfson actively urges people to avoid vaccines. "We should be getting measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, these are the rights of our children to get it," he told the Arizona Republic. "We do not need to inject chemicals into ourselves and into our children in order to boost our immune system." He added: "I'm a big fan of what's called paleo-nutrition, so our children eat foods that our ancestors have been eating for millions of years … That's the best way to protect."

I mean ... not to point out the obvious, here, but that crap didn't work the first time, buddy. That's why people invented vaccines. Imagine if some very dumb and mentally ill person said that the best way to cure epidemic diseases in our communities was to identify, kill, and eat the member of the rival tribe responsible for casting witchcraft upon us, the way that our Paleolithic ancestors did. That would be no less a ludicrous, flatly incorrect thing to say, whether the person saying it was a cardiologist, a hare-brained former MTV VJ, or a sweaty flower-child with dilated pupils accosting you on your way out of the subway station.

(Incidentally, as a concept, fetishizing the lifestyles of the Paleolithic Age as an ideal for modern humans involves actively pretending that the constant, desperate drive to develop technology and medicine that would render the lifestyles of the Paleolithic Age obsolete was not the defining feature of the lifestyles of the Paleolithic Age. If you want to live like a f***ing cave-person, the best place to start is by adopting a frantic all-consuming desire to become a modern non-cave-person. It's literally the only reason why cave-persons survived cave-personhood. The only thing they were good at was recognizing that Paleolithic lifestyles were awful.)

When some nitwit celebrity withholds vaccines from his or her children, that is its own brand of dereliction, from the responsibilities of a worth-a-crap parent and from those of a member of society who has benefited from public health practice. It puts that celebrity's children at risk, and also weakens the communal net of immunity that protects those who don't have access to vaccines from exposure to communicable diseases. Jack Wolfson's medical certifications, in the context of a disgracefully under-educated culture accustomed to treating the "Dr." honorific as a badge of expertise in all medical matters, compound the dereliction. He is in a position to mislead, meaningfully and harmfully, even certain people who might be smart enough not to take medical advice from Jay Cutler and his criminally derelict idiot of a wife.

Whipping out the tenets of the Hippocratic oath is the "Oh, you can make stats prove anything" of layperson discussions of medical controversies. Even so: Willfully and publicly disseminating public-health-imperiling pseudoscientific quackery, behind the imprimatur of doctorly credentials, is as unambiguous a violation of the promise to abstain from doing harm as if this toxic insane person were going around hocking flu-mucous onto grade-school cafeteria lunches. That disgraced and cosmically undermined "Dr." in front of his name transforms Jack Wolfson's stupid opinions into potent societal poison.

The ongoing measles outbreak—84 confirmed infections so far, in 14 states—is proof of it, and it shouldn't just jeopardize the credentials this pied piper uses to lend gravity to his insane, irresponsible pronouncements; it should jeopardize his access to his fellow humans. Jack Wolfson is f***ing evil. To the extent that any kids ever have been exposed to inoculable disease because their parents followed his medical advice against vaccination, he belongs in prison.

Vaccinate your goddamn children.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-anti-vaccine-doctor-revels-in-his-notoriety/

F*** this guy so goddamn much

 

[Victarion]

I don't want loons like him anywhere near me when I'm sick.

 

[KevanG]

I think that when you state you're a doctor when speaking about medical things, it should explicitly state what type of doctor you are. If there's a quack who bought his degree online who tells me I need to replace my blood with goat milk I'd check his credentials before even considering anything he says.

If one tells me I need to go eat barely cooked meats, rough ground grains I find in the wild and whatever other food I can find outside because it's healthy, I'd get a second opinion.

 

[Teelie]

It was so much enraging idiocy I couldn't finish reading the lies and ******** spewing from his mouth.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

He seriously needs to loose his Dr's license for this crap. He is going to get children killed with his lunacy

 

[BestGirl]

Someone should tell this guy that, ever since humans first started settling permanently in villages, we've had extremely high child mortality rates. That's normal throughout most of history. A large majority of children only started reaching adulthood after vaccines were developed.

 

[KevanG]

Or to quote George Carlin: "The kids that swallow too many marbles don't grow up to have kids of their own."

Honestly, the more I hear of the anti-vaxxer ****heads the more I miss George.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Student Suspended for Alleged Possession of One Ring to Rule Them All

Fourth-grader Aiden Stewart was suspended Friday for bringing what he claimed was the One Ring, forged by Sauron in the fires of Mount Doom, to school, the Odessa American reports. Stewart told a classmate the ring could make him disappear, which, if it really were the One Ring, it could.

Stewart's father Jason said the Texas family had recently seen The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. "Stewart said the principal said threats to another child's safety would not be tolerated—whether magical or not," according to the Odessa American. Kermit Elementary School principal Roxanne Greer declined to comment to the paper.

"I assure you my son lacks the magical powers necessary to threaten his friend's existence," Jason Stewart wrote in an email to the New York Daily News. "If he did, I'm sure he'd bring him right back."

This is the third time Aiden has been suspended this year. His father told the Daily News that Aiden was suspended once for referring to another student as black and another time for bringing The Big Book of Knowledge, a children's encyclopedia to school, which his teacher discovered contained an illustration of a pregnant woman.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-bringing-ring-power-school-article-1.2099103

Texas, the only state winning the battle against magic and children learning things

 

[BestGirl]

He's been suspended three times. KEEP FIGHTING THE POWER AIDEN!

 

[DarkSentinel]

One ring to school them all...

 

[KevanG]

So he called a kid black, brought a book to school and made a joke about Tolkien...

Obviously he is a menace and needs to be put in Prison. That's Prison with a capital P! It means business.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I honestly wouldn't expect anything less from TX haha

 

[Marvolo]

So he called a kid black, brought a book to school and made a joke about Tolkien...

Obviously he is a menace and needs to be put in Prison. That's Prison with a capital P! It means business.

Texas ain't got time for that! He's had his three chances and he's struck out! EXECUTE HIM!!!

Spoiler

I'm joking obviously. That school, nay, the whole state should be ashamed.

 

[KevanG]

I'm sure he would but no one is allowed to read in Texas.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Health Hypocrite Chris Christie Panders to Anti-Vaccination Idiots

New Jersey governor Chris Christie hasn't yet announced his bid for the Republican presidential nomination. But why wait for an official candidacy to start pandering to the country's dumbest elements? Today, just months after trying to imprison an an ebola-exposed nurse, Christie came out against mandatory vaccinations.

The Washington Post reports Christie's statement came just after President Obama said parents should vaccinate their kids against measles, because otherwise the kids could get measles and die but also kill other kids:

"Mary Pat and I have had our children vaccinated and we think that it's an important part of being sure we protect their health and the public health," Christie told reporters here Monday. But the likely Republican presidential candidate added: "I also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well, so that's the balance that the government has to decide."

The right of parents to let their kids die of diseases for which we've had vaccines for half a century—and to endanger other kids—shall not be infringed. This is a serious contrast from the Christie whose idea of governmental "balance" was an involuntary quarantine for Kaci Hickox, detained in a Newark hospital after treating ebola patients in West Africa. This was only back in October:

"My first and foremost obligation is to protect the public health and safety of the people of New Jersey," Christie said.

"And so I'm sorry if in anyway she was inconvenienced, but the inconvenience that could occur from having folks who are symptomatic and ill out and amongst the public is a much, much greater concern of mine," he said.

In another statement:

"I don't believe when you're dealing with something as serious as this that we can count on a voluntary system," he said. "This is government's job. If anything else, the government's job is to protect safety and health of our citizens."

In other words, public health trumps individual discomfort. Except in the case of the ebola nurse, it was unfounded and unscientific. If only Christie could take his I'm the boss, f***in' deal with it stance against paranoid, negligent anti-vaxx parents, instead of a nurse with a fever.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...obama-over-measles-vaccine-calls-for-balance/

F*** this guy

 

[KevanG]

So he got his kids vac'd and freely admits it's important but says that everyone shouldn't do it because of reasons. Meanwhile trying to have someone committed for having an infectious disease that is actually less infectious (in a different way) than what he was telling people to not bother getting vaxxed.

Ebola has killed approx. 10,000 people in recorded incidents from first being discovered up to and including most of 2014. In 2013 alone there was around 145,700 deaths from Measles.

What a piece of ****.

 

[Teelie]

Texas ain't got time for that! He's had his three chances and he's struck out! EXECUTE HIM!!!

Spoiler

I'm joking obviously. That school, nay, the whole state should be ashamed.

This is Texas you're speaking of. That might not be a joke.

Health Hypocrite Chris Christie Panders to Anti-Vaccination Idiots

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...obama-over-measles-vaccine-calls-for-balance/

F*** this guy

Seconded. I hate pandering politicians... so I pretty much hate all politicians.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

girl yelling at a man who tried molesting her

 

[TheDreamMaster]

So he called a kid black, brought a book to school and made a joke about Tolkien...

Obviously he is a menace and needs to be put in Prison. That's Prison with a capital P! It means business.

Aiden had One Ring. One Ring was how many rings Aiden had. It was forged in the fires of Mount Doom. and that's terrible.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

girl yelling at a man who tried molesting her

What a POS, he deserves more than a public shaming

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Rand Paul Also Has an Idiot Opinion About Vaccines

Not content to let Chris Christie dominate the national hypocrite conversation Monday, Rand Paul—a certified doctor who vaccinated his own children—said he believes there's a link between vaccines and "profound mental disorders."

Via NBC:

In an interview with the network Monday, Paul said that vaccines are "a good thing" but that parents "should have some input" into whether or not their children must get them.

And he gave credence to the idea - disputed by the majority of the scientific community - that vaccination can lead to mental disabilities.

"I have heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines," he said.

That freedom to allow one's child to host a debilitating and highly contagious disease is already paying off—the CDC says more than 100 people contracted measles after an unvaccinated kid went on vacation to Disney World last month.

Paul, who again, went to medical school and vaccinated his own children, said his piece on Laura Ingraham's radio show Monday. The quotes were distributed the same day by the Democratic National Committee, which is reportedly thrilled about the prospect of the Republican candidates stooping to anti-vaccination conspiracy theory campaigns.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/rand-paul-vaccines-can-lead-mental-disorders-n298821

F*** you Rand, you are a freaking moron who has no business spouting this nonsense and you are a disgrace to your father

 

[<(o_o)>]

What did those Kardashian women do to the poor guy?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...erview-transitioning-report-article-1.2101158

Bruce Jenner will discuss transitioning to woman with Diane Sawyer: report

The Olympic gold medalist turned reality star is planning on having a sit-down interview with ABC to discuss his personal journey into becoming a woman, BuzzFeed reported. The 'Keeping up with the Kardashians' dad has recently been spotted with longer hair, painted nails and even puffy lips.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya they really jacked that guy up