Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - Part 12

[Whiskey Tango]

Fartcheese is losing his mind. He's riding shotgun with Eh Maybe down the road to irrelevance.

More likely is that he has a Marvel hard on and is insecure because there is a new kid in the block.

Nah, he tried to sabotage Daredevil all throughout it's production and right up until release.

He wants attention is what he wants, and running his mouth online and pissing people off is how he gets it, just like any other troll.

 

[Hurm...]

Of course Infowars (Alex Jones) believes that the US government infused Suicide Squad with pro-war PROPAGANDA

http://www.infowars.com/special-report-secret-plot-behind-suicide-squad-revealed/

I don't really see how he can come to these conclusions based on a 3 minute trailer. If anything, I came to opposite conclusions by thinking that this paints the U.S. in a poor light. It demonstrates the disgusting level that the United States is willing to achieve its military goals. They are willing to manipulate and use sadistic serial killers, exploiting their ultra-violent skill set, for their own means. It's a very ignoble, dirty way of combatting your enemies. I see it as anti-war propaganda.

We'll just have to wait and see how these themes will be executed next year.

 

[Jekecy]

I was profusely excited for The Hobbit. I had been waiting, begging for that movie for ten years. Even after GDT dropped out and Jackson picked up the reigns, I remained excited. Even when the weird dwarf designs came out, I remained excited. One disappointing development after another, I remained excited.

Fast-forward three years, those movies are awful. If you're wondering, I'm doing okay. I even get a good laugh out of them in all of their awfulness. Again, life moves on. Plenty of other things in life to be happy about and look forward to.

If I maintained passion and excitement for nearly a decade and was let down continuously three films in a row...I'd be jaded for any other project after that.

Coming out of my first screening for MOS left me incredibly empty after all the love I gave towards it in the three years of development. I honestly don't know if I could have faith in WB for a while if I leave out of BvS feeling the same.

Thankfully SS comes out a little later and I'm much more confident with that creative team, so chances are I may come out of this hopeful after all.

 

[Boy Scout]

Well, in this instance then you stepped in and were posting somewhat at cross-purposes because that's what people were specifically talking about and responding to.

This is the post I originally responded to.

"You know, when there's a Marvel film coming out there's almost universal gushing about it (and its not unjustified, they make good films). No one comments on it or tells people to hold their horses. But when its a DC film everyone is all like "cool that s***, you don't know if its good or not yet".

Its bizarre to me how many people seem upset by the hugely positive reaction to the BvS and SS trailers. Its like they are personally threatened by the optimism of other people"

"People". "They". Not specifically "Faraci" (though I'm aware of his place in this discussion).

I won't speak for anybody else, so I'll say this on my own behalf.

I appreciate your concerns, but if it's all the same to you I'm going to express my excitement how I wish.

That's fine. I never said you couldn't. What I don't like is the way other people have expressed that sentiment. I've seen some very rude responses to perfectly reasonable comments.

Is that the type of response you wanted?

That's the type of response I'd prefer to see, yes. I, personally, haven't told anyone to reign it in, so in that regard, it's not really about me.

Looking out for other people's interests is one thing. Willfully raining on other people's parades by acting like a sarcastic dick is another. Hence my response to his comment. I was under the impression that you were defending it. If that is not the case, my apologies.

It's all good.

Yeah, I was responding to Farachi, and my supposed "rudeness" was sarcasm proportionate to his own

I never said you, specifically, were being rude, but okay.

To me, trying to "protect" yourself from disappointments in life ultimately just sucks the joy out of everything.

Since when was it a bad thing to keep your expectations in check? Being excited for something without building it up to ridiculous levels in your own head are mutually exclusive. Don't get me wrong; you're free to do that if you wish, but someone else expressing caution against that isn't an infringement on your rights or the equivalent of a condescending pat on the head.

 

[Gee]

I just looked at the MPAA ratings. If I understand correctly, an R-rated movie can be watched by minors (under 17) but only if they're accompanied by an adult/parent. Mad Max: Fury Road is rated 13+ with a "Violence" indication over here in my province; anyone above 13 can see the movie while those under 13 can still watch it only if accompanied by an adult. TDK was rated PG-13 in the US and 13+ (with Violence indication) over here. So, whichever rating SS will get in the end, there's a good chance it'll be 13+ in my province and probably the rest of Canada.

I now see why many are saying the MPAA ratings are outdated.

-edit- Looked on Alberta Film Ratings and that province rated MMFR 14+...

 

[Jake Cassidy]

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[Jake Cassidy]

Faraci is a ****wit. Eh Maybe is a ****wit. That INFOWARS guy is a ****wit. The world is full of ****wits.

 

[Boy Scout]

/thread.

 

[Sawyer]

Faraci is a ****wit. Eh Maybe is a ****wit. That INFOWARS guy is a ****wit. The world is full of ****wits.

Hey, man, come on....


Don't insult the ****wits by comparing their kind to El Maybe and Faraci.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

/thread.

I've been here all these years and I still have no idea what this means.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Hey, man, come on....


Don't insult the ****wits by comparing their kind to El Maybe and Faraci.

My apologies to all the ****wits out there.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I've been here all these years and I still have no idea what this means.

Thread over aka that person feels you have summed up the discussion so perfectly there is no reason to continue

My apologies to all the ****wits out there.

None taken.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Turns out SUICIDE SQUAD already sucks according to Marvel's lap dog.

I think he just likes his comic book movies to be safe, kid-friendly and utterly devoid of complexity. More recently, he hated on Marvel's mature and gritty Daredevil series, and that was unquestionably the best thing they ever did -- on the big screen or the small one. I know "everyone's entitled to their own opinion", but when it comes to that man, there's simply no accounting for tastes.

 

[ThePhantasm]

"People". "They". Not specifically "Faraci" (though I'm aware of his place in this discussion).

I'm not really interested in discussing this further with you. But I was specifically responding to Farachi's statement, even though he is not alone in saying such things because I've seen other people do the same. Clear enough? Its still Farachi's statement in view here.

 

[Greens]

Faraci is a mixed bag. I agree with some of his opinions (recent examples include Jurassic World and Mad Max) but with comic book movies he frequently drops the ball. WB released a very good Suicide Squad trailer and people are excited about it, what the bad place is wrong with that? I didn't like the Deadpool trailer but I'm not going around suppressing people because they liked it.

He also has this weird opinion that adults who like theme parks are weird.

 

[regwec]

Aww, Faraci being this salty.

I have no idea who this person is, but by the look of him I would bet that there is child porn on his computer.

I was profusely excited for The Hobbit. I had been waiting, begging for that movie for ten years. Even after GDT dropped out and Jackson picked up the reigns, I remained excited. Even when the weird dwarf designs came out, I remained excited. One disappointing development after another, I remained excited.

Fast-forward three years, those movies are awful. If you're wondering, I'm doing okay. I even get a good laugh out of them in all of their awfulness. Again, life moves on. Plenty of other things in life to be happy about and look forward to.

I went through 100% the same thing with the Hobbit movies. I still haven't even seen the third one, I was so disappointed with the second one. But I'm not someone who gets mad or upset if a movie is disappointing. Never have been.

I think we all helped each other through that very dark experience.

Since when was it a bad thing to keep your expectations in check? Being excited for something without building it up to ridiculous levels in your own head are mutually exclusive. Don't get me wrong; you're free to do that if you wish, but someone else expressing caution against that isn't an infringement on your rights or the equivalent of a condescending pat on the head.

The point, clearly, is that we can each manage our own expectations, or let them run free, as we see fit.

Some of us enjoy the optimistic expectation and chatter that comes with looking forward to things. Others, and it seems you would include yourself here, don't want to risk disappointment from departing from a safer, more skeptical position. Both are fine- and neither really bother me- but I don't really understand what is gained by trying to correct or curtail the enthusiasm of the first group. If you are not trying to change their view, then publicising your anxiety over the movie must be some kind of therapy for you.

As I say, though, it doesn't personally bother me. Peace.

 

[nite-owl]

I have no idea who this person is, but by the look of him I would bet that there is child porn on his computer.

I' am no fan of Faraci but that's a bit harsh.

 

[malnat11]

I' am no fan of Faraci but that's a bit harsh.

So even with Suicide in the title do you still think it will get a PG-13 rating?

 

[Boy Scout]

I'm not really interested in discussing this further with you.

Okay. Good for you.

Anyway: more and more, I'm starting to think that giving The Joker prosthetic teeth was a really good idea.

 

[Boy Scout]

The point, clearly, is that we can each manage our own expectations, or let them run free, as we see fit.

Nobody said you couldn't. You're free to say and do whatever you want.

My point is that you don't need to be rude to someone to tell them that you can manage your own expectations. Not if that person addressed you respectfully. It's not what's being said, it's how it's being said. It has nothing to do with being pessimistic or optimistic or trying to change another person's mind.

Some of us enjoy the optimistic expectation and chatter that comes with looking forward to things.

Great, but that's not at all what I'm talking about. I wouldn't be here right now if I had a problem with that.

Others, and it seems you would include yourself here, don't want to risk disappointment from departing from a safer, more skeptical position.

I don't think you've actually read any of my posts. If you had, you would know that I'm incredibly excited for this movie, more so than I am for any other film coming out in 2016.

...but I don't really understand what is gained by trying to correct or curtail the enthusiasm of the first group.

That's a serious misinterpretation of what I've seen happen. Granted, your experiences may be different than mine.

Oh well. I think it's about time I stop this.

 

[DeadStroke]

Really hope this movie is at least 2hrs 20 mins..

 

[WitchTrialz]

So even with Suicide in the title do you still think it will get a PG-13 rating?

Suicide is not classified as a 'dirty' word and it has no bearing on the rating. Wether or not a responsible parent wants to take they're child to a film with the word suicide in it is different.
It's honestly not that far fetched to think of it getting an R rating.
Next year marvel will give us its first R rated film with Deadpool.
From what I've seen in the trailer, this could be DCs first. Let's spot the taboos.

-Harley is displaying a lot of sex appeal, licking bars, gymnastics in skimpy clothes, she's nude at one point, and I'm pretty sure shes performing something like a strip tease as well. This is what the mpaa (unfortunately) is most concerned with, sex stuff.

-joker seems to be darker then he's ever been. I know ledgers joker did some messed up stuff, but he never DIRECTLY tourtured someone (on camera).

-that gun fight alone will boost the rating to pg-13

-most likely blood

Now the ratings board also lists werid reasons for a rating. Like "strange and unusual behavior" or "involving teenagers". I can't think of the REALLY werid ones right now but they're out there (shout out with one you've seen).
Maybe they'll do something like "involving criminals" or "psychotic behavior".
Let me know what you guys think.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Mark Hughes ‏@markhughesfilms 16s16 seconds ago Midland, MI
My @SuicideSquadWB article posts tomorrow at @Forbes, watch for it, it reveals a lot you may not know (advance spoiler warning alert!)...

 

[OutOfBoose]

Really hope this movie is at least 2hrs 20 mins..

With this cast? The longer the better.

 

[GL's Light]

Viola Davis was just nominated for an Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama Series for How to Get Away with Murder. Congratulations to her.