Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

[markjoedelonge]

Hmmm. Have you guys even seen the movie for yourselves? Why are you writing off SS as if it's a travesty already?

 

[jmc]

I think jmc meant that they panicked when Man of Steel didn't perform at the box office like they hoped. They went for the easy cash grab adding Batman to the sequel instead of doing a Superman sequel by itself. It was a lazy decision and of course that shows in the film itself.

It was a billion dollar movie in their eyes, they even boasted publicly it was going to crack a billion.

 

[redfirebird2008]

What's done is done.

 

[jmc]

No way.That script was nightmarishly bad.Also most of the castings were a bit suspect.

Given the way Mad Max Fury Road ended up being I actually wish I'd seen his JL now. I was dead against it at the time but on the back of Fury Road it's going to be one of the great 'what ifs'

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Hmmm. Have you guys even seen the movie for yourselves? Why are you writing off SS as if it's a travesty already?

Because they can't think for themselves

or

Because Disney is paying them.

I'm not sure which.

t:

 

[TheVileOne]

LOL thank you so much redfirebird, I almost spit out water all over my keyboard when I saw this.

 

[idiot09]

Hmmm. Have you guys even seen the movie for yourselves? Why are you writing off SS as if it's a travesty already?

Its just the way it is man.Many people consider the critic reviews as a "final say" on the quality of the film,without even seeing it on their own.And I am not gonna argue the merits/demerits of that assumption.

I recognise critics reviews are important,in a way that it harnesses good will for the franchise and many see reviews to judge whether the movie is good or not.And thats fine.

But us fans should watch the movie and judge it on our own terms before claiming the sky is falling because the critics didnt like it.The audiences can still love this film and this can still be a box office hit.And thats one of if not the most important thing the studio wants,even moreso I would argue,than being a hit among critics.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Given the way Mad Max Fury Road ended up being I actually wish I'd seen his JL now. I was dead against it at the time but on the back of Fury Road it's going to be one of the great 'what ifs'

I watched that again yesterday. I love it.

 

[Legendver2]

Given the way Mad Max Fury Road ended up being I actually wish I'd seen his JL now. I was dead against it at the time but on the back of Fury Road it's going to be one of the great 'what ifs'

Isn't it a similar situation with Ayer and Fury? These guys had great movies before. Difference was Ayer jumped into the DCEU, and somehow wasn't able to keep that reception up. There's no telling how Miller's JL would've done if we're just basing it off of Fury Road, which itself is conceptually an entirely different type of movie than what any Justice League film would be.

 

[Iceman]

Look forward to fan verdicts on this as I can't see it this weekend. If those aren't too hot either then.....

 

[Predator jp]

WB did not help matters when they attempted to do the George Miller Justice League while Nolan's series was still going on. He and Bale shut that thing down in a hurry.

yeah, they were trying to put out two different Batmans at the same time. wtf were they thinking. thank god it got canceled.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I'm seeing it tomorrow and then I'll tell you all what you should think.

 

[Light]

It was a billion dollar movie in their eyes, they even boasted publicly it was going to crack a billion.

I still remember prior to MOS coming out the former head at WB saying it would be their biggest movie ever.

 

[idiot09]

I am not saying that's what ISS is saying but could you blame someone if they took that stance? There is only so many chances you can give before you say enough, as ridiculous as a bold stance like that might seem people are getting fed up.

As a matter of fact,I wont at all.If I was not a fan of BvS and MOS I would most absolutely not follow JL and wont even go see it in the theatres.Thats why I asked.Because frankly,it makes no sense for someone who doesnt expect anything good and thinks the movies are going to suck to follow the movie.I would make me happy if she stopped following the movie as I am sure that would make her happier/a more positive person.No insult intended.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

As a matter of fact,I wont at all.If I was not a fan of BvS and MOS I would most absolutely not follow JL and wont even go see it in the theatres.Thats why I asked.Because frankly,it makes no sense for someone who doesnt expect anything good and thinks the movies are going to suck to follow the movie.

You know that there will be people who will and they'll annoy the hell out of the rest of us.

 

[Light]

As a matter of fact,I wont at all.If I was not a fan of BvS and MOS I would most absolutely not follow JL and wont even go see it in the theatres.Thats why I asked.Because frankly,it makes no sense for someone who doesnt expect anything good and thinks the movies are going to suck to follow the movie.

Yeah it's not like people are not invested in the characters or anything, I hate Snyder Superman but you can bet your life that everytime news about it pops up I will read it because of my love for the character Superman which is bigger than Snyder or Cavill. And I guess you get curious mixed in with a bit of hope that just maybe the next outing might do it.

 

[Light]

You know that there will be people who will and they'll annoy the hell out of the rest of us.

Oh sorry I wasn't aware you had to like the previous movies or be 100% on board for the newest ones to post on the boards.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I'm just talking about the ones who do nothing but complain. Constructive criticism is fine, of course.

 

[Lucellit]

While I'm pretty sure SS will get enough money, I'm nervous about WW.
Summer next year is quite a bloodbath.
Even Deadshot will go head to head with WW.

 

[markjoedelonge]

Its just the way it is man.Many people consider the critic reviews as a "final say" on the quality of the film,without even seeing it on their own.And I am not gonna argue the merits/demerits of that assumption.

I recognise critics reviews are important,in a way that it harnesses good will for the franchise and many see reviews to judge whether the movie is good or not.And thats fine.

But us fans should watch the movie and judge it on our own terms before claiming the sky is falling because the critics didnt like it.The audiences can still love this film and this can still be a box office hit.And thats one of if not the most important thing the studio wants,even moreso I would argue,than being a hit among critics.

Couldn't have said it better. Exactly.

 

[Reek]

Hmmm. Have you guys even seen the movie for yourselves? Why are you writing off SS as if it's a travesty already?

you haven't been here long... its what p30pl3 do.

 

[Bagide]

At the end of the day GA are thr kings.

 

[FunkMiller]

Hmmm. Have you guys even seen the movie for yourselves? Why are you writing off SS as if it's a travesty already?

Precedent.

MoS reviews very average, is a very average film. BvS reviews poorly, is a poor film. And so on and so forth. There have been no movies this year that I've seen that are much different in quality to the majority of reviews I've seen beforehand.

While I will wait till I see the film to form my opinion, it'd be idiotic to just ignore the scores of reviewers, when precedent says that they're a pretty good gauge of a film's quality. QED.

 

[idiot09]

Yeah it's not like people are not invested in the characters or anything, I hate Snyder Superman but you can bet your life that everytime news about it pops up I will read it because of my love for the character Superman which is bigger than Snyder or Cavill. And I guess you get curious mixed in with a bit of hope that just maybe the next outing might do it.

While I certainly understand that,it doesnt make sense to me personally.If i hated the two movies DC has put out,if I hated the characterization of my favourite superhero Superman,if I didnt like the director and his film making,then no matter how much I like the characters,I wont follow the next film/watch it.I dont like being negative about something,which I already know I will hate.

Maybe its just me though.

 

[Filmfan93]

The DCEU may not be perfect, but it's the only one we have right now. People hate it right now, but they don't realize that if they shut the DCEU down, we won't have these movies and characters anymore for the next couple of years at least.

I love the MCU, but I would also like to have a CBM diversity when I go to the cinema. And I prefer to have those DC movies than not to.

And I am really wondering how many of the people who protest and hate here right now, will panic if WB announce a shut-down of the DCEU?