Supergirl Supergirl Season 1 Episode 18 - "Worlds Finest" MAJOR SPOILERS

[zenith16]

Ok I'm confused what was supposed to happen exactly?

All that was supposed to happen is we're supposed to have lead in episode in flash to show case how he ended up on supergirl's universe . It was always a detour cause barry was supposed to settle things with zoom with in his own show on earth 2 and save the man in the iron mask of which he made promises to return and recuse him.


but cause of the cw breaks it put the cross over of supergirl out of order. the flash was supposed to lead into that .

the writer's/ show runners of the shows can only do so much sadly. it was the people that run the network that say when things air.

the episode with flash is aring after this even later then expected.

 

[DigificWriter]

Greg and Andrew's interview comments:

BERLANTI: Yeah, although they flip order because [Supergirl] airs on Monday, and The Flash episode that hints at how he gets over there and gets back airs on Tuesday. The audience will have to forgive us that one is going to air before the other, and they shouldn’t wait to watch Supergirl until after The Flash episode. But, you’ll see the shout-out in the next episode of The Flash. It deals with Barry increasing his speed. I’m very excited about the next episode of The Flash, too. That’s one of the things with the fact that it was different networks. Had it been all on one network, we would have been able to coordinate that. I’m actually surprised that we were able to do it as closely as we did, and that it worked out to that degree.

KREISBERG: When you binge-watch it, it will all make sense.

The episode they reference is obviously "Flash Back", and yet nothing in that episode had anything directly to do with providing setup for "Worlds Finest".

Edit: Here's the link to the full interview from which those comments come:
http://collider.com/supergirl-the-flash-crossover-episode/

 

[zenith16]

well it seem's some how they were two episode's behind and the one after will be it

They just some how didn't remember that they are two weeks behind due to the two week break. it's a shame but they sadly didn't say "flash back" was thee episode from flash . if they literally said that then yeah I think alot of people would be as mad as you. if they saw it as well. It's a weird but simple scheduling mistake.


hopefully next time it'll be done better

 

[DigificWriter]

Like I said, it's obvious that "Flash Back" is the episode they're referring to, which makes it problematic that said episode didn't actually contain the setup that they said it did.

 

[vantheman77]

I agree that after watching the Flash episode, Flash Back, there wasn't anything that lead to the Supergirl crossover. I will bet you the crossover will likely not be addressed in the Flash series.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Flash Back sets it up because it sets up Flash getting fast enough to cross dimensions. It did, in fact, do that. So they were correct about it setting up the crossover. What it did not do is directly show the scene that happened before Flash ended up on Supergirl's Earth, but I don't see them promising that there.

 

[nightwing06]

I enjoyed parts of the crossover but oh boy was it cheesy from the script to the SFX

 

[Dark Raven]

Okay, I thought I saw the April 5th thing somewhere. Obviously I was wrong.

Hell, maybe the setup is simply getting the information from Thawne-Wells on the tachyon enhancer -- which is probably what Barry was wearing in the Supergirl episode. Then, in the April 19th episode, we might simply see them running tests using the tachyon enhancer and Barry will mention in passing "Well, at least it seems to be working correctly now. I'm no longer accidentally jumping universes. But I did get to meet a super girl, though." And I'll honestly be surprised if there's more than that. I just can't see them wasting much time on something that has little to do with the story they're telling on season 2 of the Flash.

The April 5th date comes from this article specifically:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/18/supergirl-flash-crossover-spoilers

So how exactly does the crossover work? For the uninitiated, Barry/The Flash, who has been training to increase his already supersonic speed in order to fight übervillain Zoom, uses a tachyon device that causes him to run so fast he literally ends up in an alternate 
universe. Therein lies the reason why it’s a lot easier to bring Barry Allen to a different Earth than the less plausible un-super superhero Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell). While the trip will amount to a hot 
second on the April 5 episode of Flash, it results in Barry spending a day in National City (and on CBS for the March 28 episode of Supergirl), where he’s shocked to discover another hero. “Supergirl has never heard of The Flash and Flash has never heard of Supergirl, so there’s a lot of like, ‘Wait, you’re the who, now?’ ” says Kreisberg.

 

[Havok83]

Great episode! Im glad they it didnt bring too many of the Flash mythos into it bc I dont watch the show. I was afraid Id be lost

How did she go from this:

to this:

Her new look was quite jarring without showing a transformation. And how did Cat and Winn instantly knew that was her before she spoke? She looks absolutely nothing like her old self

I enjoyed parts of the crossover but oh boy was it cheesy from the script to the SFX

so pretty much just another episode of Supergirl

 

[BH/HHH]

I see now so there was meant to be a flashback to how Barry got there but they didn't do it. Hmm wonder why?

Great episode! Im glad they it didnt bring too many of the Flash mythos into it bc I dont watch the show. I was afraid Id be lost

How did she go from this:

to this:

Her new look was quite jarring without showing a transformation. And how did Cat and Winn instantly knew that was her before she spoke? She looks absolutely nothing like her old self



so pretty much just another episode of Supergirl

Totally agree here, really think they should have properly explained that. It looked like a Halloween costume though so maybe she did it to herself.

 

[Kelly]

I think she did, and they pretty much explained it with Livewire's comment about her look when they first met and decided to team up.

 

[Dark Raven]

So in-universe, was Siobhan supposed to have dyed her hair grey or was she just wearing a fright wig? It does seem a rather radical transformation. She seemed to keep flashing at the beginning to some kind of memory or subconsciousness that looked similar to the Silver Banshee look. I really thought that was going to take over her and that she would transform to look like that, and not that she was simply going to put on make up.

I would've preferred she did transform and became completely out of control. Her aunt said that the more she used her powers, she would lose her soul. I thought that the Silver Banshee look was going to be a result of her having lost a significant part of her soul so that she was no longer really Siobhan Smythe.

And all of this should've happened in a previous episode instead of being stuffed into the Flash crossover. Too much set up and also too many other things going on with Kara and James, with not enough focus on Barry himself. If it's a crossover, we want to see Kara and Barry interacting and teaming up, not all of this other stuff.

 

[Kelly]

So in-universe, was Siobhan supposed to have dyed her hair grey or was she just wearing a fright wig? It does seem a rather radical transformation. She seemed to keep flashing at the beginning to some kind of memory or subconsciousness that looked similar to the Silver Banshee look. I really thought that was going to take over her and that she would transform to look like that, and not that she was simply going to put on make up.

I would've preferred she did transform and became completely out of control. Her aunt said that the more she used her powers, she would lose her soul. I thought that the Silver Banshee look was going to be a result of her having lost a significant part of her soul so that she was no longer really Siobhan Smythe.

And all of this should've happened in a previous episode instead of being stuffed into the Flash crossover. Too much set up and also too many other things going on with Kara and James, with not enough focus on Barry himself. If it's a crossover, we want to see Kara and Barry interacting and teaming up, not all of this other stuff.

I don't think that one episode of doing bad could get her to a "full out crazy" point....I think we will see her again in the 2nd season.

 

[Dark Raven]

Does Cat know Kara is Supergirl? Was that a hint at the end when she deduced the Flash's identity and said what she said? Surely she must also see that Kara and Barry were together and then Supergirl and the Flash were seen together immediately after.

Also, how come Cat seems to get Wynn's name right and even Barry's, but Kara is still Kira?

Also, when Barry was asking Kara if Green Arrow or Black Canary existed here on this earth, Kara should've asked Barry if he had Superman on his.

 

[NHawk19]

So the SV reference of the Blur means that Smallville is definitely another Earth.

 

[CLARKY]

I found the episode quite boring exceptforthe Barry/Kara scenes that were quite charming.
But I think the most surprising thing, to me, was the saving of the heroes by the firemen ! ?! Wow I did not see that coming at all.
For once, it was not a fake protection of the normal people (you know, the hero has few second to catch a second breath and win), it was actually a real saving. I was bluffed. That was quite cool.
And seeing Livewire is always fun to me.

 

[DigificWriter]

Regarding Siobhan's "Banshee" look, there were initially plans to have her hair start turning white when she's talking to Livewire in the warehouse, but they changed things for time constraints, and simply made her look a product of Livewire's "makeover skills".

People might think that's a weak explanation, but that's what they went with.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

So the SV reference of the Blur means that Smallville is definitely another Earth.

Not really, it was just a reference/pun to Smalville show. There is no continuity between SuperG and Smalville. There is no relationship between the two, like Flash and SuperG or Flash and The Flash from the 90'.

 

[Dark Raven]

Regarding Siobhan's "Banshee" look, there were initially plans to have her hair start turning white when she's talking to Livewire in the warehouse, but they changed things for time constraints, and simply made her look a product of Livewire's "makeover skills".

People might think that's a weak explanation, but that's what they went with.

Where did you read this?

If this season had 22 episodes instead of 20 they could've developed things properly. This season has not felt drawn out at all but instead a bit rushed towards the end.

Maybe Silver Banshee was the plan all along but never the Flash, and he was shoehorned in here at the last minute in the last available slot.

 

[DigificWriter]

Where did you read this?

Episode commentary.

 

[X Knight]

saw the episode last night.

Barry and Kara have great chemistry together.

However, the team up vs the villains was lame, lame, lame, lame.

in the final fight, Flash barely did anything and didn't help Kara defeat the villains.

in the end, there really wasn't a need for Flash.

 

[Nathan]

Man, I so enjoyed Barry without having to rely on S.T.A.R. Labs. He tracked the villain down on his own. He build tech to cancel the villain's abilities down on his own. Now if he could have only defeated the villain properly. Wish this would have been a two parter. The whole thing went by way too quick. But it was great to see him and Supergirl work together. I hope there is another cross-over in the cards.

The episode had some nice effects. That's how you do a proper sonic scream. Not that weak sauce over at Arrow. And Silver Banshee also never did a stupid crouch, when she unleashed her scream.

 

[Dark Raven]

It should've been a two-parter. Just because the network has ordered 20, can't they just order an extra one if there is something special like this which would drive up the ratings anyway? Then the episode would've had room to breathe and wouldn't have felt rushed.

I don't like that the fireman defeated both Silver Banshee and Livewire. What was the need for Supergirl and Flash then if they could be defeated easily by a hose? It should've just been something that delayed or temporarily stopped Livewire and SB to allow Supergirl to recover. Then perhaps the hose should've given both Supergirl and Flash an idea on how to stop them, and THEY should've been the ones to take down the villains. The hose felt rather anti-climactic.

 

[Nathan]

Then perhaps the hose should've given both Supergirl and Flash an idea on how to stop them

That was the thing that really annoyed me about the Episode. Supergirl defeated Livewire once already, the exact same way. So why didn't she tell Barry about her weakness to water? Then Flash would have rushed off and gotten back with a fully loaded super soaker.

I actually thought Flash would have figured it out himself, since he seemed mostly competent in this cross-over, and there was actually a pool on the roof. Sadly nothing came of it. Almost felt like that's how they intended for Barry to defeat Livewire, but someone ordered a script change at the last second.

 

[PJBoy]

Nice putting together of the run : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fY9x4NhkRQ