Supergirl Supergirl Season 2 Episode 21 "Resist" - MAJOR SPOILERS

[Frodo]

The only thing which sort of takes the bite out of the Kara/Lena dynamic for me ,is that I already saw a similar dynamic play out over a decade on Smallville with Lex and Clark. Then again, it may be new to viewers who were too young to experience that dynamic way back in 2001 to 2011.

Hopefully they'll subvert expectations and perhaps their relationship will suffer at first, but ultimately become stronger instead of just doing what the Smallville producers did .

 

[Hunter Rider]

It was great to see Cat back, her scenes with Winn and Supergirl were excellent and I loved her 2 verbal smackdown's of Rhea.

Supergirl's two big flying saves were awesome, but I loved the Alex one in particular, so cool!

The 3 pronged mission against the Daxamites with the Kara/Evil Inc, Alex/Maggie and Cat/Winn team ups was nicely spliced together, with each pairing getting enough time to shine, poor Alex was in an impossible situation and I like that Maggie didn't try to influence her call one way or the other.

Lena was wearing the hell out of that red dress!

Rhea's smugness would have been for naught had Alex not hesitated to press the button as Supes took a while to fry the cannon. Not sure what to make of him in heel mode vs Kara......we shall see.

That is what I'm thinking as well, we are getting far too many hints about "how" Lena will react, and I don't think it is going to be good.

I'd love for it to be handled the same way as Thea reacted when she found out Ollie was The Arrow. I definitely think she knows though, the way she went straight past her in that corridor after the awkwardness between Kara and Mon-El as they tried to keep up the charade.

 

[Kelly]

I can't wait to see the relationship healing that may have to take place between Lena and Kara...

Her going past Supergirl seemed to me to show that she doesn't know...hmmmm....

ALSO, what is with Cyborg Superman because he wasn't in control of himself anymore than Superman was.....

Damn good episode though....definitely flies into my top 5 maybe even 4 for this season....

 

[vantheman77]

About Cyborg Superman, that was Winn putting something in him in case he and Lillian double crossed Supergirl.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I can't wait to see the relationship healing that may have to take place between Lena and Kara...

Her going past Supergirl seemed to me to show that she doesn't know...hmmmm....

ALSO, what is with Cyborg Superman because he wasn't in control of himself anymore than Superman was.....

Damn good episode though....definitely flies into my top 5 maybe even 4 for this season....

I just hope they don't turn Lena into a villain.

I thought there was a coldness in the way she did it, not even aknlowdeging Supergirl.

Agreed, very good ep.

 

[metaphysician]

So. I must be one of the very few people who can't stand Cat Grant. In a show with shapeshifting green aliens from Mars, she comes off as by far the least human and least plausible. I'd call her the show's Magical Negro, except she's white. She comes from an entirely different world than the rest of the cast, and bluntly, I wish she'd go back to that world and stay there.

But hey, why just talk about how terrible Cat Grant was. I can instead talk about how terrible the entire President subplot in the front half was! She basically got the entire crew of Air Force One killed, in the name of. . . what? Menacing the Daxamites in an utterly ludicrous and pointless way? Also, she blew her cover, continuously to tons of people, and everyone is just nonchalant. Which, btw, I find it downright shocking that a solidly left-leaning TV show would decide to go with "the President that we approve of *actually isn't* a natural born citizen".

 

[Lencho01]

I liked the episode.

Did they establish that Mon-El knows Kara as if she's someone different from Supergirl for Lena's sake? He said he name directly and then SG shows up and said "Kara" sent her.

And if Cat can see that Guardian is Jimmy, why not see that SG is Kara?

 

[Kelly]

I just hope they don't turn Lena into a villain.

I thought there was a coldness in the way she did it, not even aknlowdeging Supergirl.

Agreed, very good ep.

They don't have to make Lena a villain in order to put some dark areas into their relationship because to me the only way that you know the the strength of a relationship is when you put it through hardship I think that's what's gonna happen .

 

[LL2K2]

I liked the episode.

Did they establish that Mon-El knows Kara as if she's someone different from Supergirl for Lena's sake? He said he name directly and then SG shows up and said "Kara" sent her.

And if Cat can see that Guardian is Jimmy, why not see that SG is Kara?

Well, in the batch of photos released for the season finale,

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there's a couple of photos with Cat, Kara, and Clark inside CatCo. I wonder if Cat will mention she knows Kara is Supergirl (and/or that Clark is Superman)?

 

[Osiris-Rex]

The only thing which sort of takes the bite out of the Kara/Lena dynamic for me ,is that I already saw a similar dynamic play out over a decade on Smallville with Lex and Clark. Then again, it may be new to viewers who were too young to experience that dynamic way back in 2001 to 2011.

Hopefully they'll subvert expectations and perhaps their relationship will suffer at first, but ultimately become stronger instead of just doing what the Smallville producers did .

I'd prefer they do the Lena and Clark relationship from Smallville.

Interesting that in the DC Super Hero Girls series one of the villains is Lena Luthor, who is an evil scientist, and no friend of Supergirl.

 

[flickchick85]

Interesting that in the DC Super Hero Girls series one of the villains is Lena Luthor, who is an evil scientist, and no friend of Supergirl.

Yeah, that's pretty much the only instance I've seen of Lena being a villain. There have been like 4 versions of her in the comics that I'm aware of, and none of them were. And of course, neither ultimately was the Smallville version, either.

I'm ok if she flirts with the dark side after Kara's "betrayal" (though I still say it's ludicrous she doesn't already know the truth), but I'll be severely disappointed if they go the "my best friend lied to me so now I'm evil" route. Not only is it the lazy choice but it also doesn't jive with the character we've gotten to know this season. I mean, her beloved brother went mad, she learned her parents lied to her and discovered her mother is straight-up evil, yet she's still the girl who was trying to cure cancer in a garage for years, throws all her energy into changing the world for the better (ending famine, global warming, etc.), spends her wealth on children's hospitals, regularly puts her life in danger to take down the bad guys and took it upon herself to save the entire alien population while allowing everyone else to go on believing she's "just another Luthor." That's not a character who "goes evil" because a friend lied to her. Especially since she seems to have a pretty good relationship with BOTH identities. I mean, it would be one thing if she was friends with Kara but hated Supergirl like one version in the comics (and in that version she still got over her friend's betrayal and ultimately remained good), but that's not even the case here.

 

[SSAV]

Rheas plot would've been so much better and interesting if she were interested in corrupting Kara against humans and having her mate with Mon-El. Why would you care about a Daxam/Human baby when you could have a Daxam/Kryptonian baby? It would give you better genetics!

May be because she doesn't want a heir that grows up to be stronger than her? Especially if Daxamites are as long lived as Kryptonians on earth.

 

[SSAV]

Also, considering that the other Daxamites are not rank and file but elite, what made President Wonder Woman and the Danvers think that only blowing up Rhea's ship is going to work. The others can continue the invasion.

Or does the Positron Cannon have an endless energy supply?

 

[Dark Raven]

Great episode with lots in it. It had Cat Grant, who was sorely lacking all season. Her presence completely changed the feel of the episode and made it more like a season 1 episode. I think she's really needed for Kara to play off and keep her grounded and offer advice. I think she adds a lot to the show.

It was also great to have Calista, Lynda and Teri all in the same scene with each of them verbally sparring with one another. I've long wanted to see Calista act opposite Teri, because they do have a similar acting style and humour, and have also been TV heavyweights. Seeing them set up a rivalry between the two was wonderful to watch.

I hope Cat is let in on Kara's secret. She must surely know that Kira is Supergirl by now, especially if she can tell that James is Guardian. Otherwise it makes Cat not seem intelligent. And since she's seen Olivia Marsden shapeshift, then she must be able to figure out that there are aliens who can assume other forms, so maybe one was doing that to fool her into seeing Kira and Supergirl at the same time. And Kara should be able to trust Cat by now. Cat has kept Marsden's secret and has always been on Kara's side.

Great also to see Superman at the very end and not only just in the next episode. It was a nice surprise.

I really do hope Lena doesn't turn evil though. But does Lena know that Mon-El is Kara's boyfriend? If so, then surely she should be able to put two and two together and figure out that Kara is Supergirl.

It was also good to see everyone involved in the action in the climax, and not overshadowing Kara at all but all doing their bit. I think this is how they should balance things in future.

 

[Kelly]

Great episode with lots in it. It had Cat Grant, who was sorely lacking all season. Her presence completely changed the feel of the episode and made it more like a season 1 episode. I think she's really needed for Kara to play off and keep her grounded and offer advice. I think she adds a lot to the show.

It was also great to have Calista, Lynda and Teri all in the same scene with each of them verbally sparring with one another. I've long wanted to see Calista act opposite Teri, because they do have a similar acting style and humour, and have also been TV heavyweights. Seeing them set up a rivalry between the two was wonderful to watch.

I hope Cat is let in on Kara's secret. She must surely know that Kira is Supergirl by now, especially if she can tell that James is Guardian. Otherwise it makes Cat not seem intelligent. And since she's seen Olivia Marsden shapeshift, then she must be able to figure out that there are aliens who can assume other forms, so maybe one was doing that to fool her into seeing Kira and Supergirl at the same time. And Kara should be able to trust Cat by now. Cat has kept Marsden's secret and has always been on Kara's side.

Great also to see Superman at the very end and not only just in the next episode. It was a nice surprise.

I really do hope Lena doesn't turn evil though. But does Lena know that Mon-El is Kara's boyfriend? If so, then surely she should be able to put two and two together and figure out that Kara is Supergirl.

It was also good to see everyone involved in the action in the climax, and not overshadowing Kara at all but all doing their bit. I think this is how they should balance things in future.

Does Lena know Mon-El is Kara's boyfriend? Did you watch the episode? lol

 

[Dark Raven]

Does Lena know Mon-El is Kara's boyfriend? Did you watch the episode? lol

I did not.

I don't remember all the specific details.

And Airforce One crashing reminded me of the scene with the plane from Superman Returns.

And it's funny how for Cat Grant, the president being an alien is less problematic than possibly being a non-democrat.

In other shows though, they don't usually say so specifically which party the president represents. For example, in Madam Secretary, it is always spoken ambiguously so as not to have any particular political party allegiance, and I think the president there is now an independent anyway if I recall correctly.

 

[Dark Raven]

You know what would've been a cool scene in place of Superman appearing at the end? If Jeremiah Danvers were under the mind control of Teri Hatcher and he was now some kind of Cyborg Superman.

Of course, I'm glad that Superman did return, but if he didn't, then Dean Cain would've been a good substitute.

 

[X Knight]

it seems this ep is getting a lot of praise.

but it looks like I'll have to dissent.

for me, this was one of the worst eps I've seen, and that's coming off a string of solid eps.

I don't know if the phrase "Jump the shark" is accurate, but for my own viewing preferences, I felt this ep came close to that. It's the ep that could cause me to lose further interest in the series if they keep this direction up.

First, it was overtly political - which I don't appreciate. Not only for the obvious jab at Trump, but more importantly, the blatant "slobbering" over a president who has committed mass fraud and deception over the American people. Yet, it's all accepted and glossed over by the main characters because she's female, a Democrat, Cat's college roommate, and a pacifist ( even though she was quite willing to sacrifice lives on the Daxamite ship including Kara and Lena ).

To me, that whole thing was an example of politics taking precedence over story logic. It was blatant and nothing but pure politics. I don't mind a slight, veiled jab at the current President ( it's expected from Hollywood ). but don't go and throw out story logic to serve your politics.

I don't think it's hard to imagine if the roles were reversed, and if the President were a male, Trump-like figure, who was revealed to be an alien and thus a fraud to the American people, then that would have been played much differently. He would, of course, be treated as a villain and a major security threat and someone Supergirl and the DEO would need to expose.

But Madame Democrat President?? Nah - they'll keep her secret safe.

And speaking of Cat's return, I thought it was awful.

As someone who has missed Cat, I now want her to stay away from the show.

First, the "tone" or "style" of that character no longer fits with the tone/style of this show in the 2nd Season. Cat feels like she belongs to the more "rom-com" "Lois and Clark" tone of the 1st season, not the more serious, sci-fi oriented tone of the 2nd season.

Plus, all that feminism, woman-power rah-rah talk returned with Cat. I thought we were beyond all of that after Season 1, but now it comes roaring back with Cat's return.

And the ending, with Superman, just yuck.

I am so sick of Superman constantly being brainwashed, controlled, made evil, or otherwise marginalized in favor of other characters. You see it in BvS, the Injustice games, and now Supergirl.

Plus, it's too similar to what happened in the Season 1 finale where Superman was taken out of action due to mind control. Now, he's being mind controlled ( or so it seems ) to be an adversary, while MM is out of action due to someone messing with his mind.

Sorry for the long rant, but I was extremely disappointed and turned off by this ep. So much so that, if it continues with this direction, I don't think I'll return for Season 3.

 

[zenith16]

First, it was overtly political - which I don't appreciate. Not only for the obvious jab at Trump, but more importantly, the blatant "slobbering" over a president who has committed mass fraud and deception over the American people. Yet, it's all accepted and glossed over by the main characters because she's female, a Democrat, Cat's college roommate, and a pacifist ( even though she was quite willing to sacrifice lives on the Daxamite ship including Kara and Lena ).

To me, that whole thing was an example of politics taking precedence over story logic. It was blatant and nothing but pure politics. I don't mind a slight, veiled jab at the current President ( it's expected from Hollywood ). but don't go and throw out story logic to serve your politics.

I don't think it's hard to imagine if the roles were reversed, and if the President were a male, Trump-like figure, who was revealed to be an alien and thus a fraud to the American people, then that would have been played much differently. He would, of course, be treated as a villain and a major security threat and someone Supergirl and the DEO would need to expose.

But Madame Democrat President?? Nah - they'll keep her secret safe.

And speaking of Cat's return, I thought it was awful.

As someone who has missed Cat, I now want her to stay away from the show.

First, the "tone" or "style" of that character no longer fits with the tone/style of this show in the 2nd Season. Cat feels like she belongs to the more "rom-com" "Lois and Clark" tone of the 1st season, not the more serious, sci-fi oriented tone of the 2nd season.

Plus, all that feminism, woman-power rah-rah talk returned with Cat. I thought we were beyond all of that after Season 1, but now it comes roaring back with Cat's return.

And the ending, with Superman, just yuck.

I am so sick of Superman constantly being brainwashed, controlled, made evil, or otherwise marginalized in favor of other characters. You see it in BvS, the Injustice games, and now Supergirl.

Plus, it's too similar to what happened in the Season 1 finale where Superman was taken out of action due to mind control. Now, he's being mind controlled ( or so it seems ) to be an adversary, while MM is out of action due to someone messing with his mind.

Sorry for the long rant, but I will extremely disappointed and turned off by this ep. So much so that, if it continues with this direction, I don't think I'll return for Season 3.

sadly I think you've lost everyone with the talk of not liking the president of the show and cat no now. you have point with superman being brain washed but all that will be lost in the shuffle. and the fact you put the female president in the same place as trump. who's a Total scum bag and misleader and bully /dictator .
Some certain others will write you off on just that . especially if they are the type that stop reading just there and don't care to read any further then that. which happens alot these days. the only thing the female president hasn't been honest about is that she's an alien her self . and that what other will stick to the rest is the usual of what politician would do on show.


Just saying watch out.

 

[X Knight]

sadly I think you've lost everyone with the talk of not liking the president of the show and cat no now. you have point with superman being brain washed but all that will be lost in the shuffle. and the fact you put the female president in the same place as trump. who's a Total scum bag and misleader and bully /dictator . some certain others will write you off on just that .

whatever you feel about politicians in the real world, just please leave it out of these fictional shows.

I have enough politics 24/7 in the real world.......lol.

And I know I'm clearly in the minority when it comes to the political views expressed here on the Hype.

which is why I rarely wade into politics.

but this episode just felt so blatant in regards to its politics, to the point where story logic seemingly went out the door, that it just rubbed me the wrong way.

so, I felt compelled enough to speak out on it.

and I'm sure there will be plenty here who'll disagree with me.

 

[zenith16]

whatever you feel about politicians in the real world, just please leave it out of these fictional shows.

I have enough politics 24/7 in the real world.......lol.

And I know I'm clearly in the minority when it comes to the political views expressed here on the Hype.

which is why I rarely wade into politics.

but this episode just felt so blatant in regards to its politics, to the point where story logic seemingly went out the door, that it just rubbed me the wrong way.

so, I felt compelled enough to speak out on it.

and I'm sure there will be plenty here who'll disagree with me.

nope politic's is danger pus and it's always best to stay out. I don't like what going down inthe real world out side of here as well. but when people see certain thing 's said it's mis understood really fast and the put you in category . especial if you don't agree with it at all. the fact that you mentioned the female president is like trump some will think your trump supporter. lol cause some of what you said with usual way tv show's portray politicians . just keep away from it from now on.

she's not as bad as him and won't come near that. and don't mention his name again just stay on you fave characters.

 

[X Knight]

nope politic's is danger pus and it's always best to stay out. I don't like what going down inthe real world out side of here as well. but when people see certain thing 's said it's mis understood really fast and the put you in category . especial if you don't agree with it at all. the fact that you mentioned the female president is like trump some will think your trump supporter. lol cause some of what you said with usual way tv show's portray politicians . just keep away from it from now on.

she's not as bad as him and won't come near that. and don't mention his name again just stay on you fave characters.

I get what you're saying and I appreciate you looking out for me.

but to be clear, I never said the show equated the female President to Trump.

quite the opposite, actually.

In the ep, the alien Daxamite invaders were the Trump analogy ( they want to "make the world great again" ) but we humans and fellow aliens on Earth must all come together and unite to "resist" them.

That's an obvious, blatant analogy to the current real world politics.

The female President, while not a direct comparison to Hillary, is somewhat a proxy because she's a female President and the show creators were most likely banking on a Hillary win last fall.

And that's fine. I have no problem with a female President - be it Democrat or Republican.

But I do have a problem when you seemingly just "gloss over" a major plot point to that character simply because she is female and a Democrat. Cat literally says " Oh, it's ok, at least you're a Democrat."

THAT'S what I have the biggest issue with - cuz that just feels like story logic thrown out of the window in favor of pure, blatant politics.

I'd feel the same way if they "excused" another character for something because he's male and a Republican, if the show creators were conservative and anti-Hillary or anti-Obama instead.

leave all that stuff out of these shows.

And I'll stop here cuz I don't want to make this thread a political discussion.

I just don't want them to throw story logic out the window in favor of political pandering, regardless of the actual politics.

that's all.

Hopefully, the Madame President storyline won't end after next week's finale and there will be logicial ramifications to her being an alien.

Somehow, for example, I can't imagine Lillian Luthor not doing anything about it should she find out.

And maybe with Alex disobeying the President's orders, Madame President and the DEO won't exactly be "aligned" with each other, and Kara and co will have to wrestle with revealing her secret.

 

[NotNickFury]

You know, when President Wonder Woman was walking around in her alien form, at a glance, she reminded me of one of the Goombas from the Super Mario Bros. movie. I think it's just the way the head looked.

Decent enough episode. As far as Cat goes, I haven't missed Calista Flockhart since she departed...and her return certainly didn't make me long for her to come back as a regular, either. Also, I know it would've made too much sense, but rather than send a squadron to kill Cat, couldn't Rhea just have a ship target the building and blow it up?

 

[Robert_Anthony]

So. I must be one of the very few people who can't stand Cat Grant. In a show with shapeshifting green aliens from Mars, she comes off as by far the least human and least plausible. I'd call her the show's Magical Negro, except she's white. She comes from an entirely different world than the rest of the cast, and bluntly, I wish she'd go back to that world and stay there.

But hey, why just talk about how terrible Cat Grant was. I can instead talk about how terrible the entire President subplot in the front half was! She basically got the entire crew of Air Force One killed, in the name of. . . what? Menacing the Daxamites in an utterly ludicrous and pointless way? Also, she blew her cover, continuously to tons of people, and everyone is just nonchalant. Which, btw, I find it downright shocking that a solidly left-leaning TV show would decide to go with "the President that we approve of *actually isn't* a natural born citizen".

Looks like someone has been reading the Constitution (Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5)

And with that I start my review, instead of having to do it in parts at the SG.TV forum.

I issued political penalty points to this show which affected the rating of this show. The adventure made up for it as well as a Faster Than a Speeding Bullet mention and just quick relationship blurbs.

The penalties went to Cat Grant for her multiple mentions of a certain candidate and a call from an ex secretary of state who supposedly belives it was worth it to kill people in Iraq. And also they went to the President herself for hypocrisy ala the White Martian who caused heck for the Senator in Strange Visitor from Another Planet. And OF COURSE the POTUS would survive the crash of Air Force One beause she is an alien...WAY TOO PREDICTABLE!

Despite her chastising Bill O'Reilly...again, Cat's joke got stale IMHO. And she thinks she is a little know it all...it all came off very condescending.

HOWEVER...the scene with Cat and Supergirl in the alley outside the dive was the SCENE OF THE SHOW. Supercat was in full force and the Minerva (goddess of wisdom) that is Cat Grant showed up and strongly. Calista and Melissa gave a mother daughter performance any Mother's Day would like.

Now the happiest palce on earth is Disneyland/World. So I guess because of a possible lawsuit by Disney the writers had to make it that part of the Himalayas...I understand...LEGIT reason.

Cat tried going off the grid, which some people can do, but Cat because of her pampered lifestyle is so used to tech she came in unprepared. There are devices you can buy that can charge up so much it can start a car or power an Ipad or tablet...just saying.

But in her talk she also said the world relies TOO MUCH on tech and people get distracted by their phones and such. Tactile communication the oldest and most effective kind out there is sort of the hidden message I got. Nicely done.

I was on the edge of my seat to see Lena and Mon-El try to escape that Daxamite ship. Having to team up with Team Cadmus was the last thing anyone on Kara's team wanted, but it had to happen. Winn of course came with his gears to see to it that Team Supergirl's part of the plan came off.

As expected Lillian stabbed Supergirl in the back leaving she and Mon-El on the ship and ordered Alex to push the button to activate the cannon. Kara tried to talk Rhea out of her plan to rule Earth. But just as the cannon is about to fire...SUPERMAN STOPS IT WITH HIS HEAT VISION.

But then, in the twist of the season, Superman sideswpies and coldcocks Supergirl...HAS THE MAN OF STEEL TURNED AGAINST HIS COUSIN? If so, why?

Does Zod have anything to do with it and can the man of steel be saved before he has to end up fighting his cousin? And if Supergirl can survive that fight she then has to take on Rhea...EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW AS SHE IS A DAXAMITE ONE LEAD BULLET DOES HER IN. This fight looks WAY TOO EASY for Supergirl and could set us up for Zod as the baddie in season 3. But Cadmus could return too if Lillian Luthor is not destroyed. And what becomes of Jeremiah?

Somehow I think one hour won't be enough for this season finale and everything may come off as rushed.

I have some high fives...to Melissa Benoist and Chyler Leigh. They are the stars of this show and it had its primary focus on them. Their hug before the final battle had the feels in operation.

To Katie McGrath for again playing the Oliver Queen like tortured soul who really wore that red dress well! PLEASE WRITERS DO NOT TURN LENA HEEL (Not because of the Supercorp shippers, but because I do not want a Super/Luthor fight in dresses and skirts!)

Co D-bags of the week, Lillian and Rhea, though Rhea comes off as VERY EVIL. And if she meets her death, I for one will celebrate.

The political penalty points dragged this show down, but the adventure didn't take it all the way down.

All that said I rate this show an 8.

 

[Kelly]

I did not.

I don't remember all the specific details.

And Airforce One crashing reminded me of the scene with the plane from Superman Returns.

And it's funny how for Cat Grant, the president being an alien is less problematic than possibly being a non-democrat.

In other shows though, they don't usually say so specifically which party the president represents. For example, in Madam Secretary, it is always spoken ambiguously so as not to have any particular political party allegiance, and I think the president there is now an independent anyway if I recall correctly.

He was a Democrat then lost the democratic candidacy ran as an independent and won the presidency . The Secretary of State has always been an independent .