Superhero Handi-Cap Matches : DC vs Marvel

[supermarvelman]

Handi-Cap Matches - This might seem unfair, but it really isn’t givin how powerful each DC character is. I choose to do this because it’s seems as though many people think that a character like the Hulk is no match for Superman or that Martian Manhunter’s telepathy dwarfs Prof. X’s, which is debatable, it is a fact that DC speedsters are much faster than anything Marvel has to offer, and in my opinion there is no one female character in Marvel that can fully compare with Wonder Women, Ms. Marvel is close but she is currently no where near Wonder Women’s strength, She-Hulk might be as Strong as Wonder Women but lacks the speed, but together could they get the job done?

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares
Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver
Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut
Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke
Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man
Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk

Have any good ideas on handi-cap matches? Post them, it doesn't just have to be against DC, it could be against Marvel as well, just try to make to reasonable. Something like:

Captain America vs Robin / Nightwing

or

Hulk vs Flash / Green Lantern

 

[The_Mystery]

Batman/Nightwing vs. Captain America. That's the only way Bats is gonna get a victory of Steve.

 

[Ockham]

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares

Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver

Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut

Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke

Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man

Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk
(even one Wonder Woman would be enough)

Captain America vs Robin / Nightwing

Hulk vs Flash / Green Lantern

My picks are in bold.

 

[gildea]

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares

Hercules/ares relatively easily

Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver

flash in about 2 seconds

Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut

prof x/juggy with the greatest of ease

Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke

Rogue/psylocke

Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man

Hulk/wonderman

Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk

ms marvel / she hulk

 

[supermarvelman]

Sentry vs Doomsday / Bizarro

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares

Hercules/ares relatively easily

Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver

flash in about 2 seconds

Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut

prof x/juggy with the greatest of ease

Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke

Rogue/psylocke

Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man

Hulk/wonderman

Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk

ms marvel / she hulk

I agree with this dude.

 

[Brainiac 8]

You are underestimating Martian Manhunter. His strength is second only to Superman's. I don't know if it would be necessary for him to use his telepathy against Xavier. I shouldn't be hard for him to just conk him one, then all he has to deal with is Juggy, and that shouldn't be too hard.

 

[supermarvelman]

I'm not underestimating Martian Manhunter, your underestimating the combined power of Prof. X and Juggernaut. I know this will be the same agrumant as the one for Superman vs Hulk, but just because Martian Manhunter has more abilities doesn't mean he's getting through the Juggernaut that easily. Even if Martian Manhunter is a more advanced tetepath than Prof. X doesn't mean that Prof . X cant hold his own, especially if Manhunter has Juggernaut to deal with. If you think this is so lop-sided than how bout replacing Prof. X with Phoenix, or since

 

[Tropico]

So this is a thread to look for ways to beat DC characters instead of actually giving a handicap and letting people decide if DC or Marvel wins? I see.

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares:
I don't know anything about Marvel's Ares but it's pretty safe to assume that these 2 win. The only way I can see Cap winning is if it's KC Cap.

Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver:
I'm talking Wally, here. All he has to do is speed steal Quicksilver and ko him in a couple of secs. Spidey goes down pretty easily, too. Flash can vibe through webbing and maybe even choose to make it explode.

Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut:
J'onn goes intangible or even invisible while dealing with Xavier telepathically. You can't hit what you can't see or touch, for that matter. After that, it's a simple question of taking of Juggy's helmet and taking him down with psi attacks.

Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke:
I don't see how people can vote for PG, I love the character but his is a mismatch if ever I saw one. Psi and physical attacks and someone who can drain her powers? Unless this is a wet t-shirt contest, PG loses.

Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man:
Supes would have to be extremely crafty to win this one so I give it to the Marvel guys. If we knew more about how his senses adn intelligence have been upgraded then he might have more of a chance.

Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk:
Diana all the way. Even more if you give her access to the Amazon armory.

 

[supermarvelman]

So this is a thread to look for ways to beat DC characters instead of actually giving a handicap and letting people decide if DC or Marvel wins? I see.

well pretty much, but it isnt just against DC it could be 2 on 1 against Marvel. Plus it's not for ways to just beat DC its just an idea, since so many of DC's character are so powerful. Flash is faster than anybody in Marvel and realistically you would have to send Quicksilver, Northstar, and Speed Demon after Flash just to have a chance of beating him. Marvel may have many strong female characters, but not one measures up to Wonder Women enough to take her one-on-one. Realistically if all of Marvel and all of DC fought, this is how Marvel would have to combat DC, DC has more Raw Power, but Marvel has the numbers, and thats how it would go down.

 

[supermarvelman]

Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver:
I'm talking Wally, here. All he has to do is speed steal Quicksilver and ko him in a couple of secs. Spidey goes down pretty easily, too. Flash can vibe through webbing and maybe even choose to make it explode.

I dont think Spidey would win but dont you think his Spidey sense would help him ?

Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut:
J'onn goes intangible or even invisible while dealing with Xavier telepathically. You can't hit what you can't see or touch, for that matter. After that, it's a simple question of taking of Juggy's helmet and taking him down with psi attacks.

To make it far I say that Prof. X is no where near the battle to get KO"d but he is not using cerebro, only what he is capable of. It might seem unfair but its not, Since Martian Manhunter has many more abilities than both Prof. X and Juggernaut combined.

Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke:
I don't see how people can vote for PG, I love the character but his is a mismatch if ever I saw one. Psi and physical attacks and someone who can drain her powers? Unless this is a wet t-shirt contest, PG loses.

So do you think that Mimic and Psylocke could beat Superman

 

[supermarvelman]

Superman vs Hercules/Ares
Flash vs Juggernaut/Cannonball
Wonder Women vs Rogue/Marvel Girl
Martian Manhunter vs Vision/Wonder Man
Power Girl vs Shadowcat/Emma Frost
Green Lantern vs Cyclops/Colossus

 

[The_Mystery]

I really hate that people seemed to be "programmed" to believe that DC characters are stronger & more powerful than Marvels. It's not true whatsoever.

 

[Tropico]

See, you ARE looking for ways to beat the DC characters. It's ok, man; you're name gives you away, anyway.

I dont think Spidey would win but dont you think his Spidey sense would help him ?

It can help, but he would have to be incredibly precognitive to plan way ahead and set up the Flash. Otherwise, he could jump back to avoid a punch, but what does it matter to someone who essentially sees you moving in slow motion and can hit you mid-jump or be waiting for you when you land?

To make it fair I say that Prof. X is no where near the battle to get KO"d but he is not using cerebro, only what he is capable of. It might seem unfair but its not, Since Martian Manhunter has many more abilities than both Prof. X and Juggernaut combined.

That's making it fair? Sounds like stacking the deck to me. Juggernaut's only vulnerabilty is to psionic attacts (and sound, as Nimrod demonstrated) and you're taking that away by having him defend against Xavier and not being able to take him out.



So do you think that Mimic and Psylocke could beat Superman

I think there's a chance of that, but they'd have to attack him mentally almost from the get go. Mimic's best bet would probably be to imitate Betsy's psi power and help her attack him that way.

BTW, woman is singular, women is plural.

 

[Varient]

heh

Geoforce / Terra vs Magneto

DeathStroke vs Taskmaster/Bullseye

Invincible vs Powerboy/Match

 

[supermarvelman]

To make it fair I say that Prof. X is no where near the battle to get KO"d but he is not using cerebro, only what he is capable of. It might seem unfair but its not, Since Martian Manhunter has many more abilities than both Prof. X and Juggernaut combined.

That's making it fair? Sounds like stacking the deck to me. Juggernaut's only vulnerabilty is to psionic attacts (and sound, as Nimrod demonstrated) and you're taking that away by having him defend against Xavier and not being able to take him out.

I'm not trying to stack the deck but, if J'onn is such a powerful telepath, and Prof. X has no physical means to attack J'onn, than I think it's only fair that if Prof. X can only defeat J'onn using telepathic means, than it should be the same for Martian Manhunter. And eventhouh Prof. has Juggs, J'onn has a number of ways to combat Juggs, using invisibility, intangability, super-strength/speed, and telepathy once he gets the helmet off. So I think it's pretty fair to let Prof. X be in an undisclosed place, while Juggernaut takes him on face to face.

 

[supermarvelman]

heh

Geoforce / Terra vs Magneto

DeathStroke vs Taskmaster/Bullseye

Invincible vs Powerboy/Match

In Bold

 

[Cyrusbales]

Captain Marvel vs Hercules / Ares (easy)
Flash vs Spider-Man / Quicksilver(easy)
Martian Manhunter vs Prof. X / Juggernaut (easy)
Power Girl vs Rogue / Psylocke(not sure here)
Superman vs Hulk / Wonder Man(not sure on this one)
Wonder Women vs Ms. Marvel / She-Hulk (easy)

Have any good ideas on handi-cap matches? Post them, it doesn't just have to be against DC, it could be against Marvel as well, just try to make to reasonable. Something like:

Captain America vs Robin / Nightwing (close)

or

Hulk vs Flash / Green Lantern (Really easy one, Flash's speed is too powerful)

 

[supermarvelman]

Hulk vs Flash / Green Lantern (Really easy one, Flash's speed is too powerful)

But how can he hurt the Hulk?

 

[Varient]

In Bold

Really? I thought Invincible would lose,...

 

[Cyrusbales]

But how can he hurt the Hulk?

Well if something moves faster it has more power, flash can move at incomprehensible speeds, making his punches so powerful that they could knock hulk miles out of orbit, into the sun and too the end of the universe. Like Superman did with darksied, but much faster! Also, green lantern's power is very high if the user can concieve it to be, so Hulk will be hit before he can react, not to mention being destroyed by flash before he can turn into hulk. If flash punches banner's head off so quick, that there is no time to react and become hulk, there is no hulk! Speed can beat hulk, strength rarely can.

 

[Varient]

Well if something moves faster it has more power, flash can move at incomprehensible speeds, making his punches so powerful that they could knock hulk miles out of orbit, into the sun and too the end of the universe. Like Superman did with darksied, but much faster! Also, green lantern's power is very high if the user can concieve it to be, so Hulk will be hit before he can react, not to mention being destroyed by flash before he can turn into hulk. If flash punches banner's head off so quick, that there is no time to react and become hulk, there is no hulk! Speed can beat hulk, strength rarely can.

He doesn't have to hit him to do any of that.

The little known flash ability to lend speed would allow him to put a finger on the Hulk and impart ESCAPE VELOCITY in any direction.

 

[supermarvelman]

Well if something moves faster it has more power, flash can move at incomprehensible speeds, making his punches so powerful that they could knock hulk miles out of orbit, into the sun and too the end of the universe. Like Superman did with darksied, but much faster! Also, green lantern's power is very high if the user can concieve it to be, so Hulk will be hit before he can react, not to mention being destroyed by flash before he can turn into hulk. If flash punches banner's head off so quick, that there is no time to react and become hulk, there is no hulk! Speed can beat hulk, strength rarely can.

So how often has Flash or Green Lantern knocked somebody to the end of the universe?

Why didnt they do it to Doomsday and many other villians?

 

[Tropico]

I'm not trying to stack the deck but, if J'onn is such a powerful telepath, and Prof. X has no physical means to attack J'onn, than I think it's only fair that if Prof. X can only defeat J'onn using telepathic means, than it should be the same for Martian Manhunter. And eventhouh Prof. has Juggs, J'onn has a number of ways to combat Juggs, using invisibility, intangability, super-strength/speed, and telepathy once he gets the helmet off. So I think it's pretty fair to let Prof. X be in an undisclosed place, while Juggernaut takes him on face to face.

You're still stacking the deck by making , IMO, ridiculous "rules" as to how the fight should go. You're already giving J'onn a handicap, you're giving him more of one just to see at what point Marvel beats DC. If it seems fair to you, that's your problem. I don't see anything fair in it. Put yourself in that situation and see if it's fair that people keep upping the ante until there's very little chance (if any) for you to have a fair fight.

 

[Cyrusbales]

So how often has Flash or Green Lantern knocked somebody to the end of the universe?

Why didnt they do it to Doomsday and many other villians?

Because where would be the fun for the reader if the villain was dispatched straight away? The same reason that action hero's only win at the edn!!! It's for artistic licence!! I hate flash's character and think he is too powerful to make the writing interesting, but he does pretty much beat anyone, he can run rings around superman for example, the only weakness he really has is telepathy, but he moves so fast it's pretty difficult to get him at all.