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Superman (2025) Teaser Trailer Reaction Thread

Hehe, let's just say I'm hoping for a movie that's a rung above the Super-Pets movie. One can hope.


It's not controversial to say that most pets are seen as an extension of their owner, more than a complex individual with needs, hopes, and wants of their own. I applaud the love for animals, but nothing I said is really at all unreasonable or really even in contention. This effort to be like, "oh I could say something, but I won't" feels passive aggressive. You've done it twice now with me. This is literally a forum to discuss your feelings about superhero films, so don't let me stop you.

We have a fundamentally different view of superhero films, perhaps... but dogs/animals? No, I doubt that.
I find your responses offensive and the discussion has become pointless. You seem to be saying 'I dont believe you, I think you're lying and I'm clearly in the right'... and that's not a good debate style. Its disrespectful and makes you seem very closed off to others viewpoints on the topic, which makes engaging feel redundant. Therefore I do not want to continue discussing this with you.

Setting a boundary is not passive aggressive.
 
Ugh, that sounds horrible. Again, has Krypto been his dog the whole time? Or has he been in hiding too? How did Clark stop a super flying puppy from being noticed when it was young? Is this a longer living super dog? Like... has he been alive as long as Clark? If not, how on Earth did the dog get here? This sounds as clearly as possible to be a plot device as you get! Here, you're basically saying, "well the dog's change in confidence and acceptance will reflect Superman's." That makes him a plot device. Lassy really wasn't a character... it was a fictional being that kept the plot moving forward. The same will be true here. The story is about Superman. Krypto... at best... will help audiences to understand Superman better. At best, that's what Krypto can be.


I love dogs. Are you seriously suggesting that one must have a dog to appreciate that a flying, super smart, super long living dog is reasonable? I like cats too, have you considered a super cat? I grew up on an emu ranch actually... what about flying emus? Makes sense right? Krypton is just a copy of Earth... I guess..... yeah?



Right, because that's really the only option available for a dog when it comes to 'character' growth. It starts out unruly, and becomes ruly. It starts out suspicious of its owner, and by the end, it accepts its owner as a friend.
Now.. 1) just because the dog undergoes change, doesn't make it character growth. Like, R2D2 got rocket packs in ROTS. Does that mean he grew up from TPM? It feels imperceptible if it does.
2) that's predictable, and again... really more in service of moving the plot forward than in developing Krypto's personality. I really don't know why you folks want to insist that Krypto is going to be a character. You can inundate this thread with lots of examples like this where the dog is literally the centerpiece of the film, sure. It drives the plot (otherwise known as a *cough* plot device *cough), but the idea that Krypto will somehow be this supporting character that grows in the way a dog would, really does seem silly.

And that's my point. It's not that it can't be done. But if it gets too cartoonish (which this concept easily could), then you risk exposing the edifice of the movie to the audience, forcing them to disengage.


Not really. I love dogs too, and sure... they're sentient in that they react to stimulus, but not much more than that. They show affection, they protect when necessary... they react to the things around them. A dog isn't going to go off from home and pursue its dreams or sacrifice its future for it's belief of what's right.
These dogs that you've loved.... they've mostly been an accessory to you and your family I'd imagine.... an ally to you; it goes where you go, it behaves how you want it to behave. That's not a character... that's a plot device. The dog is an accessory to your life. What exactly is the problem with that?

I didn’t read all of this but every movie you love has plot devices.
 
*Reads a particular person’s posts over the last two pages*

Speaking as someone whose family lost two dogs in January and August 2023 and got a new dog December 2023, I can tell you right now that your definition of “love“ is less “I love and care for this being on a deep and emotional level” and more “I value and like this thing as nothing more than a piece of property that makes me feel good at my convenience”.

The death of my first dog, Sebastian, left me so emotionally devastated it took me about two months to get to the point where I could talk about him without breaking down emotionally. Thankfully, I was much more emotionally prepared for the death of our second dog, Angel, but that was still pretty tough. It took me over a year to reach a state where it didn’t hurt as much. But it didn’t completely go away. It’s still there, kind of like an emotional scar that’s healed but you still notice from time to time.

Either way, something like that irrevocably changes you and how you look at death. Before they passed, I didn’t gave as much thought to on screen deaths in films and series and in real life. Afterwards, I can’t even get through a scene of somebody dying without getting a little choked up, sometimes even straight up bawling.

TL;DR — Dogs are people, not things. Death helps you treasure life. Seek therapy.
 
This line never did make sense to me and made me think Jedis just lack the self confidence to get things done.
Idk if you’re being sarcastic, because I haven’t read the whole thread history. But this is one of my favorite lines from the prequels. The Jedi are all about finding balance, both in their faith and in their democratic approach to governance. On the other hand, the Sith are authoritarian absolutists corrupted by their darker emotions, devoted only to power and the dark side of the force. I feel that the line is a reflection of that duality.
 
I find your responses offensive and the discussion has become pointless. You seem to be saying 'I dont believe you, I think you're lying and I'm clearly in the right'... and that's not a good debate style. Its disrespectful and makes you seem very closed off to others viewpoints on the topic, which makes engaging feel redundant. Therefore I do not want to continue discussing this with you.

Setting a boundary is not passive aggressive.
LOL... but constantly highlighting that you disagree with something but you won't engage isn't passive aggressive? Of course I believe you... You're expressing opinions... what's not to believe?

I'm sorry that my feelings on Krypto were too intense for you, and my thoughts about pet ownership has created this reaction in you. Such serious stuff.... indeed. Haha

.. We're on a forum designed to discuss these things and I said nothing offensive, FYI.
 
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Yeah…no. You sound like someone who’s never loved a dog, which is fine. We’re not gonna agree here, and that post was reductive and borderline insulting for anyone who has honestly, so I’m not going to continue debating this further.
I've loved many dogs quite a bit throughout my life. In fact, I'm an animal lover. But it's really not controversial to say that one's pet is an accessory to them, rather than the other way around. Yes, animals are loving, adoring, incredible creatures, but they aren't three dimensional characters with complex thoughts or feelings. Dogs are pack animals... they follow the pack leader instinctively.

You sound like someone who lobs personal attacks when someone has an opinion you don't like. I said nothing outrageous, controversial, or disrespectful.
 
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*Reads a particular person’s posts over the last two pages*

Speaking as someone whose family lost two dogs in January and August 2023 and got a new dog December 2023, I can tell you right now that your definition of “love“ is less “I love and care for this being on a deep and emotional level” and more “I value and like this thing as nothing more than a piece of property that makes me feel good at my convenience”.

The death of my first dog, Sebastian, left me so emotionally devastated it took me about two months to get to the point where I could talk about him without breaking down emotionally. Thankfully, I was much more emotionally prepared for the death of our second dog, Angel, but that was still pretty tough. It took me over a year to reach a state where it didn’t hurt as much. But it didn’t completely go away. It’s still there, kind of like an emotional scar that’s healed but you still notice from time to time.

Either way, something like that irrevocably changes you and how you look at death. Before they passed, I didn’t gave as much thought to on screen deaths in films and series and in real life. Afterwards, I can’t even get through a scene of somebody dying without getting a little choked up, sometimes even straight up bawling.

TL;DR — Dogs are people, not things. Death helps you treasure life. Seek therapy.

First, you can quote me directly if you're referring to me.

Second, I've loved and lost several pet friends throughout my life. This argument is personal and mean. Because I don't think a non-speaking pet in a movie is a plot device and not a character, that means that I'm somehow indifferent to the plight of animals?

Third, I'm sorry about your dog.
 
I second @hopefuldreamer ‘s recommendations, and will add Superman: Space Age, Superman: Secret Identity, Morrison’s Action Comics and Tomasi/Gleason’s Rebirth run to the list. Also, depending on how you felt about the Red & Blue format, Adventures of Superman (2013) was the far superior Superman anthology series, imo.
REALLY Liked Superman Space Age!
A LOT!
 
i cried after losing my dog in the same way i cried when i lost a family member.
he was...and is family.

u don't cry over an accessory. wtf.

i'm just hyped to see how integral krypto will be to the story in this.
I've cried over lost pets, of course... I've cried over lost acquaintances too. I can love something, but admit that its life revolves around me. Dogs are pack animals. They follow the pack leader. I am not a dog... I follow my own beliefs about what's right.
 
superman space age was the last one i read - man, its great!

i think the only deduction i can give it, is i think the batman sub-plot was the weaker part of the story.

but the main focus is superman - and those are the best parts of the comic!
 
I've loved many dogs quite a bit throughout my life. In fact, I'm an animal lover. But it's really not controversial to say that one's pet is an accessory to them, rather than the other way around. Yes, animals are loving, adoring, incredible creatures, but they aren't three dimensional characters with complex thoughts or feelings. Dogs are pack animals... they follow the pack leader instinctively.

You sound like someone who lobs personal attacks when someone has an opinion you don't like. I said nothing outrageous, controversial, or disrespectful.
Interesting how you took “you sound like someone who never loved a dog” as an insult, and yet you don’t see how calling others’ loved ones “an accessory to your life” is insulting to them. In short, yes, it IS a controversial thing to say, as you can clearly tell by people’s reactions to your insistence on saying it. You simply claiming you’re not saying something disrespectful or controversial doesn’t make it true, when you get the responses you’ve gotten. It’s like people who insist they haven’t said any said anything racist when in fact, people of another race were just insulted by something they said. They’re the ones who would know, not the person who said it. YOU created controversy here with your words, therefore what you said was by definition controversial.

Now, respect that others in the thread feel differently. We strongly disagree with your entire viewpoint. That’s all there is. Move on.
 
I hope that you like it.
Something of an Elseworld tale.
At least that’s how I took it.
I really enjoyed this, thanks for the encouragement to move it up the list! I think the first book of the 3 is better than the rest, and there are parts I didn't love (Lex was a bit annoying) but overall it was really thoughtful and looked at some interesting themes.
 
I really enjoyed this, thanks for the encouragement to move it up the list! I think the first book of the 3 is better than the rest, and there are parts I didn't love (Lex was a bit annoying) but overall it was really thoughtful and looked at some interesting themes.
Glad that you liked it.
 
Interesting how you took “you sound like someone who never loved a dog” as an insult, and yet you don’t see how calling others’ loved ones “an accessory to your life” is insulting to them. In short, yes, it IS a controversial thing to say, as you can clearly tell by people’s reactions to your insistence on saying it. You simply claiming you’re not saying something disrespectful or controversial doesn’t make it true, when you get the responses you’ve gotten. It’s like people who insist they haven’t said any said anything racist when in fact, people of another race were just insulted by something they said. They’re the ones who would know, not the person who said it. YOU created controversy here with your words, therefore what you said was by definition controversial.

Now, respect that others in the thread feel differently. We strongly disagree with your entire viewpoint. That’s all there is. Move on.

Four people don't get to speak for everyone on the forum. So sorry.

Saying that I must have never loved a dog, because I believe that dogs are pets that serve humans is a personal ad hominem attack. I've done no such thing to you or anyone here. You can have all kinds of views, but I don't attack you as a person.

Also, to determine how correct something is by how popular it is, is a bad way to go. ...Good Germans.

I'm sorry for your crocodile tears and that you want to act so aggrieved and so hurt by my views on pet ownership.

I respect that you feel differently. That's fine. Despite your conniption, I've bent over backwards to express how my views on Krypto are mine alone. But that's not enough for you. YOU MUST EXPRESS POSITIVE THOUGHTS ONLY! Gatekeeping nonsense.
 
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Four people don't get to speak for everyone on the forum. So sorry.

Saying that I must have never loved a dog, because I believe that dogs are pets that serve humans is a personal ad hominem attack. I've done no such thing to you or anyone here. You can have all kinds of views, but I don't attack you as a person.

Also, to determine how correct something is by how popular it is, is a bad way to go. ...Good Germans.

I'm sorry for your crocodile tears and that you want to act so aggrieved and so hurt by my views on pet ownership.

I respect that you feel differently. That's fine. Despite your conniption, I've bent over backwards to express how my views on Krypto are mine alone. But that's not enough for you. YOU MUST EXPRESS POSITIVE THOUGHTS ONLY! Gatekeeping nonsense.
Ah, so not even gonna pretend on the “respectful” front anymore I see. Cool, bye then.

If you want to return and put up with more of our “gatekeeping” hysterics, you can feel free to do so in 2026 for Supergirl. Krypto will also be in that film to complain about.
 
So -- did we ever come to a consensus on the what orb in the background is? In this shot:
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