The Dark Knight SUPERMAN outshines THE DARK KNIGHT

Makes you wonder why Superman hasn't stopped crime before...

Because Superman is too busy impregnating women and leaving the planet for 5 years. :hehe:
 
oh boy I should have known people woudl take this personally. It's just a joke.
 
Wow, it's just a joke, really?! Thanks for clarifying because I was about to lose sleep over this. :rolleyes: Did you not see the laughing smiley at the end of my post, hence my joking as well.
 
"Are you kidding?! That was completely irreesssponssiblleee..." [/growly voice]

I love when people imitate Bale. :funny:

And that last monologue was f'n awesome. I'd have it in my sig if it weren't so jumbled. :o
 
LMAO! That was hilarious :hehe:
 
Pure funny. LOL. I'm saving that.
 
Haha, that's awesome. "But did you... did you strike terror in his heart?"
 
Cuz he's never gotten the proper treatment from the film makers.

I say this as a Batman fan first and foremost: Superman has the potential to take away TDK's title of "greatest superhero movie ever."

He's the only one who has a shot. And like I said, I'm a Batman fan above all else, but I'm humble enough to know this.

- Jow
Youre exactly right. I was always a bigger superman fan but the fact that Nolan got the batman character so well and portrayed it so honestly in the movies it has made Batman my favorite even though my instinct leans towards Superman. If anyone ever got Superman and treated a story with him with the respect and intellect that Nolan has shown Batman we'd be in for one hell of an epic movie. But that may take some time unfortunately.
 
Through this (hilarious) video...:hehe:
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Cuz he's never gotten the proper treatment from the film makers.

I say this as a Batman fan first and foremost: Superman has the potential to take away TDK's title of "greatest superhero movie ever."

He's the only one who has a shot. And like I said, I'm a Batman fan above all else, but I'm humble enough to know this.

- Jow

I seriously doubt this.

Superman is a character that worked as a 1950's comic book and on a saturday morning cartoon, but not in today's world of complex, real-life heroes.

The appeal in heroes like Batman and Spider-Man is that they are real people. If Batman or Spider-Man were to say, get stabbed or shot or something, they could die.

Superman on the other hand, is 'the man of steel' he's basically invincible, making all of the fight he gets into not intense in any way.

Next, nobody can really relate to Superman. He's AN ALIEN FROM ANOTHER PLANET.

And then there is Superman's hilarious way of keeping his identity safe. HE WEARS A PAIR OF GLASSES.

Also, Superman's rouge gallery isn't all that impressive. A blad rich guy, and some brainac and Bizarro.

I wont deny that Superman is one of, if not THE most famous comic-book character, but he isnt as compelling a character, nor does he have a lot of depth, like say, characters like The Punisher, (his family was killed, he's a broken man haunted by their memories) Wolverine, (doesn't know his past and lives in a world that hates and fears him) Batman (is alone and lost his parents and the love of his life) or Spider-Man (burdened with responsibility, keeping him from having a normal life and being with the woman he loves) have.
 
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Please stop talking nonsense. I'm not even remotely a big fan of Supes and *I* can smell the bullsh1t in your analysis of the character. :huh:
 
Please stop talking nonsense. I'm not even remotely a big fan of Supes and *I* can smell the bullsh1t in your analysis of the character. :huh:


Tell me where I spoke nonsense BS. I think I made some valid points about the character.
 
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Pretty much every single point you've made has been addressed within the past 20 years, in the comics or in animation. Particularly your remark about Superman lacking depth and ability to gain sympathy from readers because of his god-like status. The only somewhat valid point I see you've made is his rogues gallery. But when he has the likes of Luthor, Metallo, Braniac, and Darkseid, all of which are popular in their own right, it's still notches above what most heroes can claim to. So even that critique is on flimsy foundation.

I don't wanna clog up this thread discussing the character, but feel free to open up the discussion in the Superman forums, and you'll see a much explored explanation from fans alike.
 
Superman on the other hand, is 'the man of steel' he's basically invincible, making all of the fight he gets into not intense in any way.
Nonsense. A conflict need not rely on danger to the protagonist. Please see The Dark Knight. Batman's safety is never what made the conflicts interesting, because he was only in actual danger for about five seconds in the entire film. He was effectively invincible and unstoppable in every single sequence. Nobody in that theater was thinking "This fight is so exciting because the danger to Batman is so real!" What made the conflict compelling was the danger to other people and the danger to Batman's ideals--his physical vulnerability wasn't even a factor.

The same is true of Superman. We don't need to worry that Superman is going to be killed--we need to worry that he's going to fail.

Next, nobody can really relate to Superman. He's AN ALIEN FROM ANOTHER PLANET.
More nonsense. We relate to alien (or otherwise non-human) characters in fiction all the time. The purpose of non-human characters is to exemplify certain human qualities or human struggles. This is probably the poorest argument on Superman that exists.
 
Of the likes of Batman and Spiderman etc, Superman is probably the superhero that would have to change the most from his initial conception to be popular in today's world. America has never been more hated (though that could change with Obama) and if Supes does indeed represent America's take on itself then to strike a chord with the masses he has to adapt to counter that.

Oh yeah, and have some great action.
 
I seriously doubt this.

Superman is a character that worked as a 1950's comic book and on a saturday morning cartoon, but not in today's world of complex, real-life heroes.

The appeal in heroes like Batman and Spider-Man is that they are real people. If Batman or Spider-Man were to say, get stabbed or shot or something, they could die.

Superman on the other hand, is 'the man of steel' he's basically invincible, making all of the fight he gets into not intense in any way.

Next, nobody can really relate to Superman. He's AN ALIEN FROM ANOTHER PLANET.

And then there is Superman's hilarious way of keeping his identity safe. HE WEARS A PAIR OF GLASSES.

Also, Superman's rouge gallery isn't all that impressive. A blad rich guy, and some brainac and Bizarro.

I wont deny that Superman is one of, if not THE most famous comic-book character, but he isnt as compelling a character, nor does he have a lot of depth, like say, characters like The Punisher, (his family was killed, he's a broken man haunted by their memories) Wolverine, (doesn't know his past and lives in a world that hates and fears him) Batman (is alone and lost his parents and the love of his life) or Spider-Man (burdened with responsibility, keeping him from having a normal life and being with the woman he loves) have.
:facepalm You know, it really baffles me that Superman's image is so hard for people these days to understand.
 
Cuz he's never gotten the proper treatment from the film makers.

I say this as a Batman fan first and foremost: Superman has the potential to take away TDK's title of "greatest superhero movie ever."

He's the only one who has a shot. And like I said, I'm a Batman fan above all else, but I'm humble enough to know this.

- Jow

You don't think BB3 can take the title away from TDK?

I don't think people care if they can't relate to Superman. It's just the fact he hasn't had a good movie since the '80s.
 
:facepalm You know, it really baffles me that Superman's image is so hard for people these days to understand.

That's because we live in a world where people truly believe that tragedy is the only kind of depth a character can have. They have to be a rape victim or have their parents murdered to be deep? It's just a bunch of immature ********. Every man struggles, with or without such an overly dramatic or literal event to put it all in motion.
 

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