Swamp Thing support

Peyton Westlake

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You know with all the comic movies that have come out in the last 7 years or so, and now with a few re-makes or re-directions with Batman Begins & the upcoming Superman film.......there's one story I'd like to see done again with a big budget, good screen adaption & director. Swamp Thing. This character, if done right, could be a comic movie without being one, you know? It could be leaning more towards the horror elements like when Moore use to write for Swamp Thing in the early 80's. The question is , who would you trust to adapt it to screen again & who would you choose to direct it? Do you think, like me, it could be the the 1st horror/supernatural comic to be big (I don't include Constantine in this category) .What do you think?
 
Y'know i was kinda joking but i think he COULD actually do it. He is no stranger to creature effects (the baby in Eraserhead, all the stuff in Dune) and he could sure as heck get the horror aspect right. :p
 
LOL, didn't know you were joking. He seemed a legitimate choice.
 
Would like to go back to this style for Swamp Thing, instead of CGI......

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This only proves it...

DC geeks have no life.
 
I see you're the authority on spotting that GLREBORN.
 
Peyton Westlake said:
Would like to go back to this style for Swamp Thing, instead of CGI......

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yea, it would be nice, but a Totleben looking Swamp Thing would be cooler..just alot bigger and scarier.

heh, David Lynch would be interesting.

didnt Len Wein write a script or something for a new movie a while ago?
 
Peyton Westlake said:
You know with all the comic movies that have come out in the last 7 years or so, and now with a few re-makes or re-directions with Batman Begins & the upcoming Superman film.......there's one story I'd like to see done again with a big budget, good screen adaption & director. Swamp Thing. This character, if done right, could be a comic movie without being one, you know? It could be leaning more towards the horror elements like when Moore use to write for Swamp Thing in the early 80's. The question is , who would you trust to adapt it to screen again & who would you choose to direct it? Do you think, like me, it could be the the 1st horror/supernatural comic to be big (I don't include Constantine in this category) .What do you think?

Blade was the first more-horror-than-comic-book-film. It wasn't full-on or true horror, but technically it used many horror elements mixed with all the Action.
Also, the Marvel Swamp Thing rip-off, Man-Thing just had it's made-for-tv movie which is really trying to be a horror movie.

But I see your point, and I would love to have a new Swamp Thing movie true to it's roots (pun not intended) as a real horror comic. Swamp Thing has great potential.
 
I'm all up for it. Swamp Thing is a great and fascinating character. I think it deserves a fresh take on it.
 
Maybe......Tim Burton. His 1st Batman was very dark. Sleepy Hollow was done fairly well too, maybe his vision on Swamp Thing may be just what is needed.
 
The movie would be perfect if it had an ending like Swamp Thing #21, The Anatomy Lesson.
 
Maybe another possibility could be Terry Gilliam. He's done 12 Monkeys and Brothers Grimm now, both have some artistic vision.
 
I know who should direct, and he would probably be interested in doing it, and it would be great too...one of the greatest and most interesting directors around.
A big fan of the horror and comic book genre...

GUILLERMO DEL TORO


or, if you want to take a risk and give it to a promising young director, visually stunning, that i would to see something new of him, give it to....TARSEM SINGH, the director of The Cell, and currently attached to the Westworld remake.
 
With Blade II ,Hellboy & working on Hellboy 2, not sure he'd want to do Swampy but he is an interesting choice.
 
That's actually not a bad idea. Guillermo Del Toro would be great choice for Swamp Thing. I love his movies! Blade 2 and Hellboy ruled! And soon he's going to be working on HB2 (which I'm looking forward to). I'm pretty sure if offered to direct, he'd make time to do it, but then again, I'm not sure if he's even interested in the character at all.

Del Toro rules! :up:
 
I haven't seen WB mentioning Swamp Thing in its plans, after Batman Begins, Superman Returns, and WW. Its a shame because I think with Guillermo, they have a chance at a sleeper hit.
 
Also, would it be out of the question to invite back Wes Craven if he was promised a biiger budget?
 
Peyton Westlake said:
You'll have to help me out on that one Sardaukar.

The story begins with General Sunderland springing notorious evil scientist (and not coincidentally, plant-man himself) Dr. Jason Woodrue (aka The Floronic Man) from prison to run a full analysis/autopsy/dissection on the Sunderland Corporation's latest acquisition - the corpse of legendary bog monster the Swamp Thing, shot in the head by employees of Sunderland and kept on ice in a fully-automated laboratory in the basement. The relationship between Woodrue and Sunderland is a strained one between the self-made man and the twitchy academic whose services are essential to one another - Sunderland requiring Woodrue's scientific and unique approach to unlock the mysteries of the Swamp Thing's body, Woodrue in turn indebted for his freedom, albeit temporary, and other, more personal reasons:


  • "I remember clearly the moment before I began to cut:

    I was very... excited.

    Since the bio-chemical fluke that had transformed me, I had longed for a chance to examine another human-vegetable hybrid. I could learn so much. So much about myself."
After weeks of no headway - removing and observing non-functional crude vegetable imitations and analogues of human organs - he errantly flips to the wrong page in a reference book and hits upon what he believes to be the true secret behind the Swamp Thing's existence. Swamp Thing was always believed previously to be a plantly incarnation of scientist Alec Holland, murdered in a sabotage attempt that tossed both his body and an experimental bio-restorative fertilizer formula he was working on into the marsh out back behind his lab, where the unique circumstances resulted in his assumption of a green and leafy form and superhuman powers. By accidentally reading up on a passage dealing with the ability of planarian worms to run a maze more successfully after being fed the remains of a successful worm Woodrue hits upon the notion that as the plants in the swamp decomposed the remains of Alec Holland, due to the presence of the formula they managed, like the worms, to retain a strong level of Holland's intelligence, personality and memories, but were not in fact Holland and that a reversal of Holland's fate would never be possible.


  • "'You see, we were wrong, General.

    We thought that the Swamp Thing was Alec Holland, somehow transformed into a plant. It wasn't.

    It was a plant that thought it was Alec Holland!

    A plant that was trying its level best to be Alec Holland...

    And that pathetic, misshapen parody downstairs in the cryochest was the closest that it could get.

    But there's something else. Something very important.

    You see, if that's a plant that we have down there...'
    'Dr. Woodrue... I think I've heard enough.'"
This breakthrough, this logical leap accomplished, Sutherland believes he has no further use for the criminal scientist "freak" he has been grudgingly tolerating. He thinks that under this model his employees can reverse-engineer the Swamp Thing without further assistance from Dr. Woodrue, and the businessman arrogantly makes arrangements for Woodrue's termination and return to prison right before him. Though the first two beliefs may well be correct, the third action turns out to be a mistake, as Sutherland confidently strolls out from the presence of the now-fired Woodrue, leaving the impotent egghead before the master console controlling every aspect of this ultra-modern facility, from the locks on the doors to the temperature in the basement freezer.


  • "You see, throughout his miserable existance, the only thing that could have kept him sane was the hope that he might one day regain his humanity...

    ... the knowledge that under all that slime he was still Alec Holland.

    But if he's read my notes he'll know that just isn't true.

    He isn't Alec Holland.

    He never will be Alec Holland.



    He never was Alec Holland.



    He's just a ghost.

    A ghost dressed in weeds. I wonder how he'll take it?"
 
Peyton Westlake said:
Maybe......Tim Burton. His 1st Batman was very dark. Sleepy Hollow was done fairly well too, maybe his vision on Swamp Thing may be just what is needed.

That's an excellent idea. I can picture Danny Elfman's music setting the mood already. It would be awesome !
 

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