The Dark Knight TDK: Standard Action/Comic Book Film?

[Conebone69]

Im really concerned that TDK will be a standard action/comic book type film. Batman Begins was no ordinary superhero movie, like it wasnt one of those "standard action/comic book type films," like spider-man for example. I think that is one of the reasons why alot of people liked BB was because of that. I know thats one reason why I thought it was great and seperated itself from the others. And if TDK does the opposite then I think its gonna loose some of the general public and not be as good. Does anyone know what im talkin about?

 

[lixdexia]

i don't think it's gonna be a cookie cutter action flick. we've got the story of harvey's decent and the story of the ramifications of begins to work through in this one

 

[Solidus]

A. No Cone I don't think this will be, this is about story, and thats how Nolan rolls, he's not Michael Bay.

B. You should just post this in concerns about the movie. Because this is what it is, I don't think it will need its own thread.

 

[sasquatchs]

Was Begins really that much of a departure from the norm? Disappointingly conventional in my eyes but I thought that's why most people liked it, it did it's job capably and ticked the boxes in a straightforward way

 

[Drummerdude7]

with the numerous amounts of characters and plotlines that have been mentioned, discussed and speculated, i don't think this will be cookie cutter comic book action. Nolan even said the movie would play out as a conventional drama.

 

[Solidus]

Was Begins really that much of a departure from the norm? Disappointingly conventional in my eyes but I thought that's why most people liked it, it did it's job capably and ticked the boxes in a straightforward way

I know you hate saying this but a lot of people liked it because it was not like a conventional. I know you thought so, but read on Rottentomatoes a lot of reviews, as well as just how Variety/Empire the two latest blogs about it/articles. People just crave and do believe Nolan has created something new with Begins.

I did not see it as an average movie, and I'm a hardcore movie goer, to me it was a very deep meaningful film. But not everyone will see it that way. But I think a lot of people saw it as an intelligent movie.

 

[sasquatchs]

I think he's done something new within the realm of Batman films but I don't see it as at all unconventional outside of that

 

[Solidus]

I think he's done something new within the realm of Batman films but I don't see it as at all unconventional outside of that

Outside of Bats/Comic movies of course it has done done anything huge. That is true. I was not saying it was on that angle.

But I think as comic/blockbusters it did and people love those movies right now a lot it seems. But yea I'm not saying it changed movie going as we know it.

 

[BattyBlue]

I don't think it will be. There's a lot to work with. Nolan has lots of interesting talent and characters to work with. Of course, I feel your concern. With the hype comes expectation, when that expectation is not met, you can feel let down, but really I think what Nolan's showing with the Joker, he's hiding with Dent. There is an interesting subplot to this movie, I feel, that I hope will be suprising and satisfying. But I guess your concern might be the general 'build 'em up, smash 'em down' that sequels have a tendency to do. I will keep my finger's crossed until I see the movie

 

[Stotch]

A. No Cone I don't think this will be, this is about story, and thats how Nolan rolls, he's not Michael Bay.

B. You should just post this in concerns about the movie. Because this is what it is, I don't think it will need its own thread.

I was going to say the same thing but felt I didn't have enough points to have the authority to

But yes, I feel like this one will still have the drama and action blended in there. With harvey's story, as well as Rachel's being included and seeing Nolan on the directors chair again, we can feel safe that this won't be a mindless action film

 

[jediknight273]

Nolan's films aren't known for their action really, its more about the story, so no I dont think it will be a "standard action/comic book film". Nolan knows what he's doing, sure the preview shows a lot of action but they need to drag in all the mindless drones of moviegoers who just enjoy eye candy and pretty much blank out when there's dialogue (I'm not saying I dont like the action though ) but WB needs to make cash you know. Nolan films have a purpose in every scene I dont think you have much to worry about. "IN NOLAN WE TRUST" am i not right?

 

[SpinyNorman]

They said the same thing about Begins - "No style, no atmosphere, boring plot, just action."

You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

 

[Carlito Jones]

this movie will be a mixture of heat, the departed, batman begins style action because you got maroni in the mix, maroni crew, gamble and his crew, anthony hall's role giving batman drama, fake bat men, chechan gangs scarecrow, harvey dent and his issues , two face's mayhem, joker's carnage this movie might get rated r this movie is not gonna be for wimps

 

[Drummerdude7]

this movie will be a mixture of heat, the departed, batman begins style action because you got maroni in the mix, maroni crew, gamble and his crew, anthony hall's role giving batman drama, fake bat men, chechan gangs scarecrow, harvey dent and his issues , two face's mayhem, joker's carnage this movie might get rated r this movie is not gonna be for wimps

it's rated PG-13 actually

Edit: i don't know if it's confirmed or unconfirmed, but in all likelyhood it probably will be

 

[Eggyman]

Preposterous

 

[jediknight273]

They said the same thing about Begins - "No style, no atmosphere, boring plot, just action."

You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

How could you say that? BB had the best character development of any of the bat films, its style was its own, and the plot was anything but boring.

 

[SpinyNorman]

How could you say that? BB had the best character development of any of the bat films, its style was its own, and the plot was anything but boring.

The thing was that I didn't say that, hence the use of the pronoun "they." Before Begins came out a lot of complainers said the above statement. Going by, again, photos and trailers.

And they were wrong.

 

[lixdexia]

Preposterous

did steve tell you that? what's he got to do with it? what kind of a rap name is steve anyway?

 

[Mr. Socko]

I know you hate saying this but a lot of people liked it because it was not like a conventional. I know you thought so, but read on Rottentomatoes a lot of reviews, as well as just how Variety/Empire the two latest blogs about it/articles. People just crave and do believe Nolan has created something new with Begins.

I did not see it as an average movie, and I'm a hardcore movie goer, to me it was a very deep meaningful film. But not everyone will see it that way. But I think a lot of people saw it as an intelligent movie.

I agree. Chris Nolan left many of the conventional standards and made something far better than what we usually get. The bar is raised even higher for TDK. No way would he dumb it down in story to simply amp up the action, that's not Nolan's style.

 

[Spartan1138]

It was more conventional story wise than say Superman Returns, but it was very unconventional to its approach to the material. I can't watch Batman Begins enough times, immense rewatchability.

 

[Damiean Dark]

Im on the reverse i just cant watch it anymore after the promising opening it goes downhill for me its many faults start to appear after repeated viewing. thats why it was so loved it was an origin batman movie (though i think the origin was not told how it should have been) it was freash now all that is over some people fear its gonna be more action and less acting

 

[The Battousai]

Im on the reverse i just cant watch it anymore after the promising opening it goes downhill for me its many faults start to appear after repeated viewing. thats why it was so loved it was an origin batman movie (though i think the origin was not told how it should have been) it was freash now all that is over some people fear its gonna be more action and less acting

Do you use a keyboard? Can you see the punctuation marks? Or is it that you can't remember what your point is by the time you type it and, therefore, cannot chance forgetting what you intended to type next?

Spoiler

I'm kidding, of course. It actually would help your points if you took the time to make a post with proper grammar...

 

[The Sage]

Was Begins really that much of a departure from the norm? Disappointingly conventional in my eyes but I thought that's why most people liked it, it did it's job capably and ticked the boxes in a straightforward way

I do think that it was fairly conventional, Nolan worked the worked the formula superbly. I think that was a given; Batman Begins was an origin tale, it was bound to be follow the superhero film structure.

I'm guessing that The Dark Knight will break away from the typical conventions and go some places unseen in the superhero film genre.

 

[Thythoutrust]

Im really concerned that TDK will be a standard action/comic book type film. Batman Begins was no ordinary superhero movie, like it wasnt one of those "standard action/comic book type films," like spider-man for example. I think that is one of the reasons why alot of people liked BB was because of that. I know thats one reason why I thought it was great and seperated itself from the others. And if TDK does the opposite then I think its gonna loose some of the general public and not be as good. Does anyone know what im talkin about?

Yeah I know what you mean.
In SM like in BB, the storyline gives a true meaning to the hero's actions.
He is somewhat emotionaly vulnerable and we can easily identify ourselves. That's a big reason why people didn't like spider-man 3 (besides the poor story). We didn't feel like spider-man fought to save a large ammount of people, he just fought to make himself feel better so that he could save his love. In spider-man 1 he saved a bunch of kids (and MJ), in SM2 he saved the city and in BB Batman saved Gotham from self-destruction.

 

[the_monk]

I see what you're saying, Conebone. I remember after seeing Begins I thought, "Well that was refreshing, but it sort of turned into a regular comic book movie towards the end". But how could it not have? The hero was created by that point.

But from what I've seen so far, Nolan is doing something more interesting than normal comic book films. Hopefully that will end up being the case.