The Dark Knight Rises TDKR SPOILERS (read at your own risk) - Part 2

[Cannikin]

7 and half hours until the embargo is lifted!

What will we do with Shape after that? Hopefully he'll still be around to insult us.

 

[redfirebird2008]

7 and half hours until the embargo is lifted!!

Who will be the first to review the movie?

It will most likely be at 100 percent for a day or two on rotten tomatoes until the everybody likes it, so I won't critics get their hands on it.

Embargo lifts at midnight Pacific. It is currently 1:30 Pacific. So it's actually 10 and a half hours.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

7 and half hours until the embargo is lifted!!

Who will be the first to review the movie?

It will most likely be at 100 percent for a day or two on rotten tomatoes until the everybody likes it, so I won't critics get their hands on it.

Or until a critic genuinely dislikes it. Sometimes I think such an idea is aggressively foreign to some of the members here.

I've read some really thoughtful and dead on negative reviews of both BB and TDK. I like those movies but I don't automatically assume anyone who doesn't is simply a contrarian.

 

[reper35]

Plus the spoiler crowd and thread seems like a looser bunch of guys. I go to the general info thread and those guys are really on edge.

I mean I asked someone over there who knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and people freaked out telling me I just ruined the movie by revealing Bruce is Batman.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

I mean I asked someone over there who knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and people freaked out telling me I just ruined the movie by revealing Bruce is Batman.

Holy Lord, that's stupid.

 

[batou]

with the kind of ending chris has chosen, it should go well with the so called critics. for some people it might take some time to realize that this is a perfect way to close bruce wayne's story.

 

[reper35]

Or until a critic genuinely dislikes it. Sometimes I think such an idea is aggressively foreign to some of the members here.

I've read some really thoughtful and dead on negative reviews of both BB and TDK. I like those movies but I don't automatically assume anyone who doesn't is simply a contrarian.

I tend to believe anybody who disagrees with me is just being contrarian.

 

[reper35]

with the kind of ending chris has chosen, it should go well with the so called critics. for some people it might take some time to realize that this is a perfect way to close bruce wayne's story.

I think die hard comic book fans might be more harsh than movie critics, especially if the ending is as controversial and people are saying.

 

[getheftystrong]

TDKR, boy what a great film it was. I will say that TheShape is very reliable and the ending is quite comforting to say the least. My only complaint was once again the Batman. Personally it sounded exactly like TDK and I have no idea why they couldn't improve upon it. Bane sounds great and yes his voice sounds somewhat different in the final product of the prologue.

 

[Bella_Muerte]

Just want to see if I'm doing this right...

Hi

 

[Bella_Muerte]

Ok now I can't delete my last comment... Sorry guys, I'm new to this board and I'm still trying to figure a few things out lol

I have a question to pose but I do not know how to use spoiler tags. Can someone help?

 

[reper35]

TDKR, boy what a great film it was. I will say that TheShape is very reliable and the ending is quite comforting to say the least. My only complaint was once again the Batman. Personally it sounded exactly like TDK and I have no idea why they couldn't improve upon it. Bane sounds great and yes his voice sounds somewhat different in the final product of the prologue.

Argrgaergable hockey pads and grooble broble padded jell it will be then huh?

Was it as satsfying as the first time you made love?

 

[reper35]

Ok now I can't delete my last comment... Sorry guys, I'm new to this board and I'm still trying to figure a few things out lol

I have a question to pose but I do not know how to use spoiler tags. Can someone help?

Highlight your message and push the spoiler button on the top right hand side. It is a yellow smiley with it's eyes covered in a black strip.

Or

Write your message between

 

[LorenzoVon]

Can someone plz tell me everything the imdb legit guy said cos I can't find his posts! Or either send me a link to his posts! Thanks

 

[reper35]

Can someone plz tell me everything the imdb legit guy said cos I can't find his posts! Or either send me a link to his posts! Thanks

It's really long and detailed, I can answer specific questions, but look for a poster named 3D, because he copied it and posted it from IMDB. Search his posts

The main thing I got from the spoilers was

Spoiler

Bane literally lifts Batman up and snaps his back over his knee.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Can someone plz tell me everything the imdb legit guy said cos I can't find his posts! Or either send me a link to his posts! Thanks

Here are his posts:

http://forums.superherohype.com/search.php?searchid=11396055

 

[malnat11]

So to the people who have seen it, is gotham depcited as No Man's Land.

 

[3-D]

Since a few people have asked for it, here one more time is my compilation of Name that Movie's IMDB spoilers:

Spoiler

Scarecrow is not in it, How ever Dr. Crane is in it as the Judge in Bane's make shift court room.

Batman sacrifices himself to save everyone and perishes, however Bruce does not die.

I gave it a 9/10...It is a great movie. It kept my attention from start to finish. It only slowed just before the final act but not enough to really complain. I did not like the changes they made to the opening plane scene. They made Bane sound like he was talking through an air horn. Pretty sure this was a little FU to the people that complained back in Decemeber. "Oh, you couldn't understand him? How about Now?

The cafe scene is in it, it is the second to last scene. Blake finding the waterfall and thus going into the batcave is the final shot. He does not find the Bat suit or anything other then a bunch of water. As he's wading through the water the platform that hides underwate rises with Blake on it and fades to black.

At the end, the last shot of Gordon is discovering a new Bat Signal on the roof of the MCU. There is a will reading where all of Bruce's assets are sold off but Wayne Manor is not to be touched and it is left to be a boys home in the name of Bruce's parents.

A guy posted saying he was a Cement truck driver, I asked which of the two he was. Explained what happened to the two drivers and he confirmed he wast he one that got killed with a Richochet shot from Blake.

I have to change my earlier statment, Blake kills two people to save himself. He is disturbed by doing this.

Also the Mayor is killed, he's one of the only trilogy characters that doesn't make it.

I posted it earlier, Blake goes to the will reading then talks to the secretary and thats how we find out his full name is John Robin Blake. He gets a bag that has some supplies with a map and GPS and some other stuff.

Alfred is never shown getting a plane ticket, he just ends up in the cafe in Paris or where ever they are supposed to be where he see's Bruce and gives him a nod and walks away. Never approching him.

No scene at the end, its no a Marval Movie once the Title rolls after fad to black its credits till the end.

Yes, it is revealed in the last 25 minutes that she is. (talia/Miranda same person)

He is dead, he comes back in a dream that Bruce has while being held in Bane's Prison. (Ra's)

I think she was really good, shes not great but she holds her own. She's sassy in all the right spots and has that innocent look when needed to fool people then snap to ass kicker.

Bruce never breaks his one rule.

Bane is killed by the cannon on the Bat Pod. Talia is killed when the truck carrying the bomb is disabled by the Bat.

Gordon finds out who Batman is as Batman is getting ready to take the bomb out over the bay with the Bat.

Bane finds out the truth about Dent from Gordon. Gordon has written "The Truth about Harvey Dent" speech that he was going to read at the memorial from the trailer. He then decides to not read it. He puts it in this right inside pocket of his over coat. When Bane's men capture him, they search his body and find the speech. Gordon escapes, however he is shot while doing so. Bane reads the speech while standing ont he Tumbler. In it, Gordon resigns his positon.

Bane toys with Batman in the sewer. Lets him think he's winning then pummels him, then lets Batman beat him a little then beats him some more.

Bane, takes Batman above his head like in the comic and smashes him over his knee and messes his back up. Batman's back isn't broken however he has vertebrae that are bulging out of his back and have to be reset before he can walk again.

Liam is in it for maybe 4 minutes in a dream that Bruce has while his back is healing.

Catwoman shoots Bane with the Cannon just before he pulls the trigger on a sawed off shotgun in Batmans face.

I do not think Blake kills anyone, he has a gun and shoots at some people but never see him killing anyone.

A bag is left for Blake but its not read in the reading. He shows up and says there is something left for him. The secretary says she has nothing for him, he then says its under my real name. The secretary then says, "Oh here it is, you should go by your full name. Its nice." He smiles and she says Robins and nice name.

I don't remember Alfred getting a plane ticket, the next shot is of him at the cafe, he sees Bruce. Smiles and nodes but makes no motion to go towards him and then he walks away with a smile on his face.

The Lawyer at the will reading also can't seem to find Martha's pearls and can't close the estate without them.

We don't see how he escapes the Bat, Fox tells him when he gives it to him that the auto pilot needs to be fixed. Later he tells Fox he wasn't able to fix it and it worked fine. Last shot of Fox they are looking at the Bat and one of the techs says that the Auto Pilot was fixed 6 months ago. Fox asks by who and they say Bruce Wayne, then we go to Alfred seeing Bruce and Selina.
They never say how his name goes, but he says that it was under his full name. So my assumption would be John Robin Blake. But Robin being part of his name was stated clearly in the film.

It is never implied that Blake will be Batman, Bruce makes comments to him that if he is going to be a rogue he needs a mask but it is never openly implied. He never sees the suit in the cave. He does throw his badge away after the bomb goes off over the bay. If anything it is implied that he would become Robin. They unvail a statue of Batman at the end. It's a really cool statue by the way.

Only Dr. Crane, Ra's and Two-Face are mentioned. No other villains make cameos.

They fight in front of City hall, up the steps and Batman has the upper hand for most the fight. Bane gets some good shots in but once Batman damages the mask Bane starts to lose it and can't stay focused.

She calls herself her real name to Bruce when she stabs him while he has Bane down. It is revealed she climbs out of the well and not Bane. Bane loves her, however its never said she pregnant.

Young Ra's is in a flash back, and Liam is in a dream.
Batman has beaten Bane, while he is yelling in Banes face Talia Stabs him, while explaining her backstory to Batman she fixes Banes mask. She leaves Bane with Batman and she joins the truck holding the bomb. She tells Bane not to kill Batman, that she wants him to feel the heat of the millions of people he couldn't save when the bomb goes off. She leave and Bane says "You know I have to kill you now" Throws him down goes to shoot him, when Catwoman kills Bane.

Noboy calls her Catwoman in the movie.

He did beat Bane fair and square. He is betrayed by Miranda/Talia. Catwoman saves him after he is stabed and tied up by Bane. Talia fixes Banes mask, but after the beating Bruce puts on him, Bane is wimpering on the ground then she Stabs Batman.

He is someone in the Prison and saves Talia when she is little in the Prison, helps her to the wall so she can climb out.

By doing this, all the other prisoners beat him up and the prison Dr tries to fix him but makes it so he has to wear the mask. Talia, gets out and finds her father. He hates Bane and thinks of him as a monster and hats him cause he loves Talia.

His whole plan is to destroy the city, none other. Himself and Talia are ready to die to destroy the city.

Bane paints Gordon and the rest of the city officials as the bad guys. The criminal element sides with him, but the normal people don't.

The prison is Blackgate Prison, not Wayne Manor. At the end it is turned into a boys home in honor of bruces parents.

 

[drumsnotdead]

Spoiler

I thought about writing all the cafe, blake, gotham rebuilding, and will reading, but I am using a Blacberry phone to type and it is a chore. I think he got almosty the end.

I knew about Blake an the cafe - thank you so much for typing it up for me though!

 

[Sidekick94]

Since a few people have asked for it, here one more time is my compilation of Name that Movie's IMDB spoilers:

Spoiler

Scarecrow is not in it, How ever Dr. Crane is in it as the Judge in Bane's make shift court room.

Batman sacrifices himself to save everyone and perishes, however Bruce does not die.

I gave it a 9/10...It is a great movie. It kept my attention from start to finish. It only slowed just before the final act but not enough to really complain. I did not like the changes they made to the opening plane scene. They made Bane sound like he was talking through an air horn. Pretty sure this was a little FU to the people that complained back in Decemeber. "Oh, you couldn't understand him? How about Now?

The cafe scene is in it, it is the second to last scene. Blake finding the waterfall and thus going into the batcave is the final shot. He does not find the Bat suit or anything other then a bunch of water. As he's wading through the water the platform that hides underwate rises with Blake on it and fades to black.

At the end, the last shot of Gordon is discovering a new Bat Signal on the roof of the MCU. There is a will reading where all of Bruce's assets are sold off but Wayne Manor is not to be touched and it is left to be a boys home in the name of Bruce's parents.

A guy posted saying he was a Cement truck driver, I asked which of the two he was. Explained what happened to the two drivers and he confirmed he wast he one that got killed with a Richochet shot from Blake.

I have to change my earlier statment, Blake kills two people to save himself. He is disturbed by doing this.

Also the Mayor is killed, he's one of the only trilogy characters that doesn't make it.

I posted it earlier, Blake goes to the will reading then talks to the secretary and thats how we find out his full name is John Robin Blake. He gets a bag that has some supplies with a map and GPS and some other stuff.

Alfred is never shown getting a plane ticket, he just ends up in the cafe in Paris or where ever they are supposed to be where he see's Bruce and gives him a nod and walks away. Never approching him.

No scene at the end, its no a Marval Movie once the Title rolls after fad to black its credits till the end.

Yes, it is revealed in the last 25 minutes that she is. (talia/Miranda same person)

He is dead, he comes back in a dream that Bruce has while being held in Bane's Prison. (Ra's)

I think she was really good, shes not great but she holds her own. She's sassy in all the right spots and has that innocent look when needed to fool people then snap to ass kicker.

Bruce never breaks his one rule.

Bane is killed by the cannon on the Bat Pod. Talia is killed when the truck carrying the bomb is disabled by the Bat.

Gordon finds out who Batman is as Batman is getting ready to take the bomb out over the bay with the Bat.

Bane finds out the truth about Dent from Gordon. Gordon has written "The Truth about Harvey Dent" speech that he was going to read at the memorial from the trailer. He then decides to not read it. He puts it in this right inside pocket of his over coat. When Bane's men capture him, they search his body and find the speech. Gordon escapes, however he is shot while doing so. Bane reads the speech while standing ont he Tumbler. In it, Gordon resigns his positon.

Bane toys with Batman in the sewer. Lets him think he's winning then pummels him, then lets Batman beat him a little then beats him some more.

Bane, takes Batman above his head like in the comic and smashes him over his knee and messes his back up. Batman's back isn't broken however he has vertebrae that are bulging out of his back and have to be reset before he can walk again.

Liam is in it for maybe 4 minutes in a dream that Bruce has while his back is healing.

Catwoman shoots Bane with the Cannon just before he pulls the trigger on a sawed off shotgun in Batmans face.

I do not think Blake kills anyone, he has a gun and shoots at some people but never see him killing anyone.

A bag is left for Blake but its not read in the reading. He shows up and says there is something left for him. The secretary says she has nothing for him, he then says its under my real name. The secretary then says, "Oh here it is, you should go by your full name. Its nice." He smiles and she says Robins and nice name.

I don't remember Alfred getting a plane ticket, the next shot is of him at the cafe, he sees Bruce. Smiles and nodes but makes no motion to go towards him and then he walks away with a smile on his face.

The Lawyer at the will reading also can't seem to find Martha's pearls and can't close the estate without them.

We don't see how he escapes the Bat, Fox tells him when he gives it to him that the auto pilot needs to be fixed. Later he tells Fox he wasn't able to fix it and it worked fine. Last shot of Fox they are looking at the Bat and one of the techs says that the Auto Pilot was fixed 6 months ago. Fox asks by who and they say Bruce Wayne, then we go to Alfred seeing Bruce and Selina.
They never say how his name goes, but he says that it was under his full name. So my assumption would be John Robin Blake. But Robin being part of his name was stated clearly in the film.

It is never implied that Blake will be Batman, Bruce makes comments to him that if he is going to be a rogue he needs a mask but it is never openly implied. He never sees the suit in the cave. He does throw his badge away after the bomb goes off over the bay. If anything it is implied that he would become Robin. They unvail a statue of Batman at the end. It's a really cool statue by the way.

Only Dr. Crane, Ra's and Two-Face are mentioned. No other villains make cameos.

They fight in front of City hall, up the steps and Batman has the upper hand for most the fight. Bane gets some good shots in but once Batman damages the mask Bane starts to lose it and can't stay focused.

She calls herself her real name to Bruce when she stabs him while he has Bane down. It is revealed she climbs out of the well and not Bane. Bane loves her, however its never said she pregnant.

Young Ra's is in a flash back, and Liam is in a dream.
Batman has beaten Bane, while he is yelling in Banes face Talia Stabs him, while explaining her backstory to Batman she fixes Banes mask. She leaves Bane with Batman and she joins the truck holding the bomb. She tells Bane not to kill Batman, that she wants him to feel the heat of the millions of people he couldn't save when the bomb goes off. She leave and Bane says "You know I have to kill you now" Throws him down goes to shoot him, when Catwoman kills Bane.

Noboy calls her Catwoman in the movie.

He did beat Bane fair and square. He is betrayed by Miranda/Talia. Catwoman saves him after he is stabed and tied up by Bane. Talia fixes Banes mask, but after the beating Bruce puts on him, Bane is wimpering on the ground then she Stabs Batman.

He is someone in the Prison and saves Talia when she is little in the Prison, helps her to the wall so she can climb out.

By doing this, all the other prisoners beat him up and the prison Dr tries to fix him but makes it so he has to wear the mask. Talia, gets out and finds her father. He hates Bane and thinks of him as a monster and hats him cause he loves Talia.

His whole plan is to destroy the city, none other. Himself and Talia are ready to die to destroy the city.

Bane paints Gordon and the rest of the city officials as the bad guys. The criminal element sides with him, but the normal people don't.

The prison is Blackgate Prison, not Wayne Manor. At the end it is turned into a boys home in honor of bruces parents.

THose all sound great except for the [BLACKOUT]one about Robin being Blakes middle name[/BLACKOUT] Ive always said thats kinda dumb and not needed

 

[The Shape]

I absolutely agree. But as we all know, knowledge = power, and people generally don't like losing power. It's not always as noble as wanting to save people from themselves.

I was just having fun, and I definitely helped build anticipation until the spoilers hounds got what they were looking for. I'd much rather give hints and hold things back than to be the guy who posts the whole movie online after getting an opportunity (once in a lifetime, in my eyes) to see this film 2 weeks early. To me, it's not much different than the guys who posts the bootleg footage online.

Sure, people want to watch, but at the end of the day, that bootleg guys is still a *****ebag...not to us, but to the studio and the filmmakers. Same goes for spoiling a movie that Chris Nolan (a filmmaker I greatly admire and respect) tries very hard to keep secret. Just my 2 cents.

 

[The Shape]

What will we do with Shape after that? Hopefully he'll still be around to insult us.

I hope so! Love insulting you guys!

 

[redfirebird2008]

THose all sound great except for the [BLACKOUT]one about Robin being Blakes middle name[/BLACKOUT] Ive always said thats kinda dumb and not needed

Sounds a hell of a lot better than the earlier claims that [BLACKOUT]he possibly becomes Batman, doesn't it?!!! [/BLACKOUT]

 

[Sidekick94]

Sounds a hell of a lot better than the earlier claims that [BLACKOUT]he possibly becomes Batman, doesn't it?!!! [/BLACKOUT]

Correct. still I dont think it adds anything to the story but its just something ill have to live with.

 

[The Shape]

Well, I mean it's just as much within the one who has seen it's rights to divulge or not divulge however much they want. Some people genuinely don't want to ruin things for someone else. Everybody's different. I for one really enjoy the way Shape gave intimations and hints and vagueries. It was great fun.

I haven't ruined the film for any of my best friends, even those who begged me to. Haven't ruined it for you guys, either, some of whom I also consider to be friends. Just not my style.

Posters here respected it at first and enjoyed the question/answers with me (that was great fun), and then turned on me and claimed I was on a power trip once I didn't let up with my stance.