The Dark Knight Rises TDKR SPOILERS (read at your own risk) - Part 3

[Scooter]

You get to fill in all the rape details with your imagination.

 

[guy_from_nerk]

Question to those that have watched this. Aside from the nod to Robin, is there any other nods to characters from the comic books? Such as any hint of Harley Quinn? The Penguin? Anything? I read something about Crocodiles in the water being in reference to Killer Croc?

 

[Travesty]

Question to those that have watched this. Aside from the nod to Robin, is there any other nods to characters from the comic books? Such as any hint of Harley Quinn? The Penguin? Anything? I read something about Crocodiles in the water being in reference to Killer Croc?

Spoiler

Nope, just Ra's, Two-Face and Johnathan Crane(Scarecrow)

 

[X Knight]

Nah, not at all mate, none of that.

You'll be fine.

Anything else you need to know ?

@ RavenX - Re Sexual Assault...........

Spoiler

There's a small scene where the prisoners go after Ra's Wife/Talia's mother but you don't really see much othan than them crowding her.

thanks

Spoiler

but they never show any actual attack on Talia's mom, right?

 

[nogster]

I've seen it twice now.
And for those that have seen it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. but the logic of Banes plan, thus the films main plot, if scrutinized doesnt hold up.

Spoiler

So Bane instigates a revolution, flipping society on its head. Then holds Gotham to seige by threatening Gotham's destruction with the fusion reactor if the outside world tries to interfere. This works for me. It was handled well.
But its "ticking" time bomb added to this that doesnt hold up.
So with this, we are to understand that regardless, Bane and Talia planned to blow up gotham. with them in it.
They were going to die as well.
Both Bane and Talia were in city hall. Talia even pressed the button, which wouldve instantly killed everyone there. Then she pursues the truck to stop Gordon from deactivating it.

If they were going to die as well. Why didnt they detonate the bomb the moment Batmans return was made evident? [the burning bat symbol]. or as soon as they saw that the cops had been freed and the "war" was going to begin?
Or go even further and why not detonate the bomb a month or so after Banes revolution?
If Banes revolution was only a ruse or a statement. He made it.

It only makes sense that they didnt detonate the bomb if they planned on NOT being in the blast radius and surviving, which according to the films events and their location, they obviously were commited to dying along with the rest of Gotham.

Its illogical.

I thought the movie rocked. no doubt. but its flawed. and there are events or story arcs that couldve been handled better.

Thoughts?

 

[Sidekick94]

thanks

Spoiler

but they never show any actual attack on Talia's mom, right?

No

Spoiler

they just pull her out of the cell

 

[66 Face]

Question to those that have watched this. Aside from the nod to Robin, is there any other nods to characters from the comic books? Such as any hint of Harley Quinn? The Penguin? Anything? I read something about Crocodiles in the water being in reference to Killer Croc?

It could have been Killer Croc or a knock at Spider-man.

I didn't notice anything else but there is a

Spoiler

Crane

cameo. Not sure if you know that or not.

I was waiting for something about the Penguin. I thought with all the Pittsburgh Igloo footage something would happen.

 

[guy_from_nerk]

Thanks, one more question

Spoiler

How much screen time does Ra's have?

 

[dinste1]

Thanks, one more question

Spoiler

How much screen time does Ra's have?

Spoiler

Spoiler

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At most, 1m 30 seconds.

 

[Sidekick94]

Thanks, one more question

Spoiler

How much screen time does Ra's have?

Spoiler

Liam Neeson is in it for maybe 2 minutes young ras has no lines and is only shown a couple times there are also flashs of liam fro begins

 

[Travesty]

I've seen it twice now.
And for those that have seen it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. but the logic of Banes plan, thus the films main plot, if scrutinized doesnt hold up.

Spoiler

So Bane instigates a revolution, flipping society on its head. Then holds Gotham to seige by threatening Gotham's destruction with the fusion reactor if the outside world tries to interfere. This works for me. It was handled well.
But its "ticking" time bomb added to this that doesnt hold up.
So with this, we are to understand that regardless, Bane and Talia planned to blow up gotham. with them in it.
They were going to die as well.
Both Bane and Talia were in city hall. Talia even pressed the button, which wouldve instantly killed everyone there. Then she pursues the truck to stop Gordon from deactivating it.

If they were going to die as well. Why didnt they detonate the bomb the moment Batmans return was made evident? [the burning bat symbol]. or as soon as they saw that the cops had been freed and the "war" was going to begin?
Or go even further and why not detonate the bomb a month or so after Banes revolution?
If Banes revolution was only a ruse or a statement. He made it.

It only makes sense that they didnt detonate the bomb if they planned on NOT being in the blast radius and surviving, which according to the films events and their location, they obviously were commited to dying along with the rest of Gotham.

Its illogical.

I thought the movie rocked. no doubt. but its flawed. and there are events or story arcs that couldve been handled better.

Thoughts?

Oh, I agree with you, it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Reed Richards]

Can anyone tell me why Alfred didn't seem shocked to see Bruce at the end or why he didn't go talk to him? It's not like it would have blown his cover.

 

[Sidekick94]

Can anyone tell me why Alfred didn't seem shocked to see Bruce at the end or why he didn't go talk to him? It's not like it would have blown his cover.

Its his fantasy to see him move on from the being Batman and in his fantasy they dont talk he just wants closure that he was fine. this was another scene that got me watery eyes at

 

[Yurka]

Anyone else think the Tate/Bruce love scene came out of left field?

 

[The Caped Knight]

question about Sen. Patrick Leahy

Spoiler

How long is his cameo? And what is his fate?

He's one of the board members of Wayne Enterprise. it a very brief cameo and one line.

 

[Sidekick94]

Anyone else think the Tate/Bruce love scene came out of left field?

Yeah I was like it made no sense

 

[Reed Richards]

Its his fantasy to see him move on from the being Batman and in his fantasy they dont talk he just wants closure that he was fine. this was another scene that got me watery eyes at

Did Bruce survive or not? I'm confused. Also, why would Alfred have a fantasy of Bruce with Selina. He never knew they hooked up. She was a maid burgler and then Alfred moved out.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah I was like it made no sense

Same they'd had no connection at all before that

 

[jacobed]

Yes Bruce survived.

 

[BH/HHH]

Did Bruce survive or not? I'm confused. Also, why would Alfred have a fantasy of Bruce with Selina. He never knew they hooked up. She was a maid burgler and then Alfred moved out.

There's a few reasons I don't think it's in Alfred's head Bruce is with Selina and he nods at him.

 

[Sidekick94]

Did Bruce survive or not? I'm confused. Also, why would Alfred have a fantasy of Bruce with Selina. He never knew they hooked up. She was a maid burgler and then Alfred moved out.

Spoiler

Yes Bruce lives. Alfred fantasy isnt about Bruce and Selina its Bruce settling down with a woman and living in peace

 

[Travesty]

Anyone else think the Tate/Bruce love scene came out of left field?

It totally did for me because

Spoiler

It happened right after Alfred told Bruce about Rachel. One second Bruce can't love another woman, then next, he's hookin up with the first girl he sees. It was a bit strange.

 

[BruceWayne]

Anyone else think the Tate/Bruce love scene came out of left field?

Yup. Looking back, there were WAY too many instances where I was left like

 

[Reed Richards]

Yes Bruce survived.

That's my opinion too but since Alfred told Bruce that he always goes there at a certain time of the year I thought maybe that was Bruce and Selina there. This fantasy makes it look like Alfred went nuts.

 

[nz18]

i just have one unresolved question, when kyle leads bruce to fight bane in the sewer, right before his back is broken, bane calls batman mr. wayne. How does he know this. Was there something that i missed?