TDK's Joker: The best film villain of all time?

Discussion in 'The Dark Knight' started by Diemtay, Jun 24, 2011.

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Is he the best?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. He's tied with another villian(s)

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  1. Blue Sugar

    Blue Sugar Well-Known Member

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    He is up there for me no doubt.

    My top ten film villains without order and from the top of my mind:

    The Joker (Heath Ledger) from The Dark Knight
    The Terminator (Arnold Schwarchenegger) from The Terminator
    T1000 (Robert Patrick) from Terminator 2: Judgement Day
    Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) from The Star Wars Saga
    Darth Vader (Prowse/Christiansen/Earl Jones) from The Star Wars Saga
    Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) from The Shining
    Death (Bengt Ekerot) from The Seventh Seal
    Norman Stansfield (Gary Oldman) from Léon
    John Doe (Kevin Spacey) from Seven
    Le Chiffre (Mads Mikkelsen) from Casino Royale

    And the line between a classic main villain and just another bad guy/antagonist/henchman is thin. And also I didn't count more animal like characters like Alien and Jaws.
     
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  2. LegendaryCaleb

    LegendaryCaleb Well-Known Member

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    I certainly think he is...but that's just my opinion!
     
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  3. Knight Rise

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    I think MOTP Joker is a little higher, but he's not the best either IMO
     
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  4. moviedoors

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    I couldn't possibly disagree more. I'm so glad they didn't make him laugh every two seconds. His laugh was like his screen time: exactly enough.
     
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  5. DC Batman

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  6. Frontier

    Frontier Arkham Asylum Inmate

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    He is certainly up there. I wish you had a "top 3" or even "top 10" option.

    I'd rate him top 3. Hannibal Lector and Darth Vader with him. Though in what order... I don't know.

    He's without a doubt the best comic villain, the best villain of the past 15 years. Every 20 years or so has an iconic villain. Those 3 are it.

    I think anyone who tries to play the Joker in a future Bat film ((which I hope doesn't happen for a good solid 20 years; much as I love the Joker/Batman relationship, Ledger simply knocked it so far out of the park that any attempt sooner than a decade plus would seem like it was either being done for hollow reasons)) is going to have to really out-do himself.
     
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  7. roach

    roach I am the night

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    Best film villain...no...Lector, Vader, Spacey from Seven, Kaiser Soze....IMO were better

    Best comic book film villain...probably
     
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  8. Nevincer

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    One of the best. But I have to say some of the villains being listed in this thread are overrated as hell, and got cult status due to other factors, not the raw performance like with Heath's Joker.
     
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  9. roach

    roach I am the night

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    um Anthony Hopkins' Lector won the best actor Oscar for Silence of the Lambs...he only appeared in the film for a little over 16 minutes

    also lets not forget that Joker was a popular character before Heath was cast
     
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  10. Nevincer

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    Um... I said some, I wasn't referring to Lector. I don't think he was overrated at all, and never did. Like Heath he won cult status through a great performance, as short as it was.
     
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  11. roach

    roach I am the night

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    well who would you consider over rated and got cult status due to other factors
     
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  12. The Joker

    The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    Well I don't think the likes of Le Chirffe from Casino Royale or Gozer from Ghostbusters warrant a cult status. If any Bond villains have cult status it's the likes of Blofeld, Goldfinger, Oddjob and Jaws.
     
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  13. roach

    roach I am the night

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    I agree with this...I didnt see anything iconic about Le Chirffe
     
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  14. The Caped Knight

    The Caped Knight Shield Avenger

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    He's defiantly up their with Darth Vader.
     
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  15. Doomed_hero

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    no not best. While I found dark knight to be a really good movie, I feel there are better like Darth vader and Palatine from star wars. Plalpatine simply for being true evil, taking over the empire and killing millions, even billions, before he was taken down( no one can top that). And Vader for the character himself, there is alot more layers to him then health's joker.

    Also i would put Bill the Buthcher from "gangs of New york' in front of him as well as hannibal. I think I would tie him with the 89 joker cause i think him and jack both had parts of the character of joker right.
     
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  16. The Joker

    The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    As far as Bond villains go, he was decent enough, but not as great as the classic Bond villains I mentioned. He certainly is not even close to iconic villain status.
     
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  17. redfirebird2008

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    I disagree, there is a legitimate difference between them. One of them completely disappeared into the role while the other didn't.
     
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  18. webhead9707

    webhead9707 Dr. Perky

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    Does anyone else think Hugo Weaving's Red Skull and Tom Hiddleston's Loki may become iconic film villains?
     
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  19. p4poetic

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    I have to let movies age a bit before I can make 'best of all time' decisions personally.
     
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  20. CelticPredator

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    I could name a good 10 villains better then him. So no.
     
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  21. Lord

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    Loki was a whining brat whilenred skull wasn't well enough used
     
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  22. CelticPredator

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    Loki was amazing. Well done fleshed out character. More interesting then The Joker.
     
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  23. Lord

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    I liked Loki but he was kind of a girl sometimes
     
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  24. Godzilla2014

    Godzilla2014 Deadpan Snarker

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    I'd say that Heath Ledger's Joker is the best comic book film villain and, at the very least, one of the best in film overall.
     
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  25. El Payaso

    El Payaso Well-Known Member

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    He was the best in that movie, but Joker was big amongst bigs.
     
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