Teaser for Marvel's upcoming crossover event

Oy crossovers....maybe this one will fix the last few years.
 
Well now that Norman has all his pawns in place, this will be his big move, I guess.

I'll be thrilled if this ends with him being brought down, and I hope Spider-Man and Iron Man are the one's to do it.
 
It would make sense for Peter to be the one who finally brings down Norman, given their history, so I hope Spidey gives him a beat down, worse than in the first part of American Son.
 
Yes sir. Norman's also been a huge thorn in Iron Man's side as well. He needs to get some licks in too.
 
I want Spider-Man to take him down. Then I want Val Cooper, the person who was actually qualified to head the Initiative after Tony's departure, to kick him in the nuts.



On another note, if Rafa Sandoval is the artist heading this crossover, then I immediately regret all of the times I ranted about Marvel needing to give him better exposure. I wanted him to be the regular artist on Mighty Avengers, not to draw a crossover I'm going to avoid like the plague.
 
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Mary Jane and Peter Parker will be married by the end.
 
I love how Norman Osborn makes sure to have a video image of Daredevil of all heroes there. Because when he's fighting a little war with the X-Men, two teams of Avengers, Hulk's son on another planet, and even the Punisher who is mowing down his allies, that Hell's Kitchen dude is SURELY a lot of trouble. :o

I am curious to know who is writing this. If it's Bendis, it will be terrible. If it is Bendis and a co-writer, like Hickman who is on FF and SECRET WARRIORS, then it could maybe be decent. Bendis sometimes does better or at least slightly less predictable work when he has a co-writer. If it's someone else entirely, it could be good.

There's that title, though, an obvious play on the infamous "Patriot Act". I'd mention that stories that seek to rip into the last administration technically lost all relevance in Jan. 2009. But then again, that idea was lost when Norman Osborn, who may as well be called "Super Armored Nazi Cheney", came to power by bloodless coup. How can the same Marvel that idolizes Obama in ASM comics and even his dog in PET AVENGERS turn around and claim that he'd allow Osborn to run rampant? Nominating people with tax evasion problems is one thing; allowing convicted terrorists and murderers to basically control everything is quite another. But methinks Joe Q is thinking the same thing that Seth MacFarlane is with AMERICAN DAD; their big political story motivation is suddenly gone after eight years, but they find themselves, ironically, "staying the course" rather than adapting their commentary to fit the times.

Social commentary that is not flexible or bipartisan usually becomes moot at some point.

Osborn is Spider-Man's enemy so he likely will be involved in taking him down. He won't, though, if Bendis writes it. He writes Spider-Man as an incompetent man-child, and they don't get to save the day. It could be Luke Cage, or Iron Man. But who knows.

It'd be fun if it was Hercules, or the Agents of Atlas. :)
 
I would be ok with Osborn being taken down by a mixture of Spider-Man and Iron Man as both have reason to want to take him down.
 
I don't know if Spidey gets to take Norman down...Norman isnt even really a spidey villian anymore.

I'd still like to see Iron Man get him...he's wearing Tony's F-ing armor after all.
 
How about Norman bringing himself down by going 'green' if ya know what I mean
 
I'm hoping that this will be Osborn's supposed screw up that leads to Dr. Doom taking over or at least have him solidify his reign. Of course this feels a little too soon in my opinion. Osborn should at least be in charge for at least a year or so.
 
I bet Doom & Loki's plot slowly destroys Osborn's control and influence over the rest of the Cabal, and something will happen that will make the Initiative slowly slip out of his control. Then Osborn will flip out, go Goblin again, and Spider-Man will take him out old school style.

And then, if Marvel's editors have any sense, Val Cooper (who is already in charge of watching over the entire mutant community) will be given control of the Initiative.
 
You're sure kicking for Val Cooper, Manic. She's had her share of skeletons in the closet herself. Just not as many as Osborn, obviously.

I hope Loki and Doom take him down, myself. :oldrazz:

I'd be behind that except for one problem; in terms of the line-wide Earthed based event, Marvel heroes haven't "won" any of them since, what, the 90's? Hero vs. Hero events, such as WORLD WAR HULK or even CIVIL WAR don't count, obviously. The heroes lost SECRET WAR. They lost HOUSE OF M. They lost SECRET INVASION (Osborn had to land the kill shot). I am getting a bit tired of Bendis' theme that superheroes when challenged ultimately always fail, and only survive by luck or circumstance.

Bush is out of office and his fellow Republicans have been out of Congressional power for two years. It should be thematically okay to have a moral that a good, honest person/hero can prevail over a corrupt, evil insider, right?
 
I just think it's weird and a bit illogical how sidelined she's been ever since Hooverville left Xavier's lawn. Val and the ONE were put in charge of the mutant residents of the United States. These days, Peter David is the only writer who remembers that, having her be the secret reason why X-Factor Investigations were never rounded up and why they're currently allowed to operate in Detroit. In theory, she should be checking the threat level Graymalkin Industries poses to the San Francisco Bay, and possibly bankrolling the X-Men the same way she's bankrolling X-Factor. The way David has it set up, X-Factor is like Cooper's own little Mutant Initiative, and I don't see why her influence doesn't stretch a bit further than that--especially since it's public knowledge that a majority of the mutant population is living in California.

All that aside, my point is that she's got the most experience, and is the most qualified character I know of to take over the Initiative.
 
Cooper presided over some shady stuff. She oversaw Freedom Force, which was mostly made up of "reformed" terrorists Mystique, Blob, Avalanche, and Pyro (who only tried to assassinate a senator, hardly mere bank robbery that). She picked John Walker to replace Captain America (and Lemar Hoskins as Bucky/Battlestar), and that didn't go well. Authorizing soldiers to don Sentinels-as-mechas and turn the X-Mansion into a mutie concentration camp is hardly the high point of tolerance.

I'm just saying, it would be nice if the Initiative could be run by someone who didn't have some sort of terrible dealings in the past.

Granted, you could argue Peter David's been doing yeoman efforts to work with some awkward continuity for a while now. When the rest of the mainstream X-Books were using alien sagas to ignore M-Day for almost two years, X-FACTOR was treating it seriously for storyline fodder.
 
I think Rhodey would be a good replacement.
 
He would have been, at least before Greg Pak's WAR MACHINE that has basically turned him into the Punisher, only as a cyborg and in armor.
 
I was thinking of picking that up, as War Machine was one of my favorite characters growing up and I like Manco's work, but I was unimpressed. Based on the reviews Ive seen on here its a good thing I stayed away.
 
I bet Doom & Loki's plot slowly destroys Osborn's control and influence over the rest of the Cabal, and something will happen that will make the Initiative slowly slip out of his control. Then Osborn will flip out, go Goblin again, and Spider-Man will take him out old school style.

And then, if Marvel's editors have any sense, Val Cooper (who is already in charge of watching over the entire mutant community) will be given control of the Initiative.
I like both of those ideas. Only, maybe Iron Man could help take the OsGoblin down, since he kind of owes him for stealing his job and declaring him a fugitive.
 

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