Tessa Thompson wants an all female superhero movie

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  1. Vader's Fist

    Vader's Fist Well-Known Member

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    What do you think? Sound like a good idea to you?

    Source: https://theplaylist.net/tessa-thompson-marvel-wants-female-team-20171011/
     
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  2. Raiden

    Raiden Wakanda Forever

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    Personally, I thought that Feige (despite his brilliance) hasn't done enough to make or promote female superhero movies. In the past, it was probably due to Perlmutter (who vetoed the idea to have Rebecca Hall be the first female villain in MCU), but now even with Capt. Marvel coming up I don't think it's enough. Given the massive success of Wonder Woman, Marvel suddenly seemed to be lagging behind their competitor in the female superhero department. If Feige made good on Tessa's idea of an all female superhero team movie, then they have truly broken the mold and spearhead an unique idea once again. I truly hope it will happen in the near future, like in Phase 4 or something; I don't want Feige to put it in the back burner.
     
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  3. wampa1

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    A-Force!
     
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  4. SirStrangefolk

    SirStrangefolk Champion of Life

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    Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, Valkyrie, Shuri, Captain Marvel
    with possible appearances of
    Pepper Potts, Sif, Maria Hill, Sharon Carter, Okoye, Ayo
     
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  5. Zarex

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    It's a fantastic idea. Hopefully Feige will put it on the front burner.

    And all the thumbs up for Tessa Thompson (who is by all accounts wonderful in Ragnarok) for name dropping Lady Liberators. Reboot Medusa from her TV hell and the team is ready for assembling.
     
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  6. Gamma Ra

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    This!
     
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  7. wampa1

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    Gamora? Nebula?
     
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  8. Rorschach2012

    Rorschach2012 I'll Cancel the Pizzas

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    I think they should wait a bit. Introduce She Hulk first

    But I definitely want to see this.
     
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  9. Abudefduf

    Abudefduf Humanity was a mistake

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    Oh, I absolutely agree with Thompson. An A-Force (or whatever you want to call it) movie is an absolute must for Phase 4.

    Or this movie could also be her introduction.
     
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  10. NHawk19

    NHawk19 insert witty comment

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    Marvel has done a pretty good job making sure female characters are not just helpless and there to be saved. Widow, Hope, Sif, Gamora, etc are never shown to be in any more danger than that of their male counterparts. And in many cases actually save the hero.

    I think there's some ground work that needs laid first, mostly a few female solo films, but this could be a really awesome project.
     
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  11. SirStrangefolk

    SirStrangefolk Champion of Life

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    Could be, but I take it they'll probably be somewhere off in space after IW.
     
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  12. DrCosmic

    DrCosmic Professor of Power

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    I would be so, SO here for this. Throw Gamora in there too for good measure, or maybe Mantis. Put them up against Taskmaster and Count Nefaria and watch the good times roll.

    A-Force is a horrible name though. Liberators would probably be a better move, or even better: Champions.

    While they haven't been as useless as female leads in other action franchises, the MCU's females are still more likely to get damseled than the male heroes. Because I have some spare time, I'd like to review these instances, and see what you and others thing:

    Widow in initially outwits by pretending to be a damsel in Iron Man 2 and Avengers. In Avengers is the only person in danger of being killed by Hulk, which is her major action sequence outside of defeating Hawkeye, and also finds herself protected by Cap's shield when they blow up that first leviathan. She does not save anyone from death, the way Thor, and Cap save her. In Winter Soldier, Cap not only saves her from the grenade on the boat, but from Winter Soldier near the middle, and then it is her possible death that Pierce holds hostage over Fury, not a male character's or the other way around. Widow does however save Cap and Sam in the car from Winter Soldier, though it is very subtle and quick, it was super cool.

    In Avengers 2 it is Widow who is the captured damsel that Hulk rescues, not a male character. Interestingly in Cap 3, it is a female, Scarlet Witch who takes her out in the airport fight, and not the male whose protection is part of her origin story, Hawkeye. Widow is absolutely more of a damsel than the rest of the Avengers, and rarely saves them, though they are always saving her.

    Gamora is just as bad, with her intro to the team being saved from Drax by Quill, and then being saved from space by Quill, and then joining with everyone in saving Quill, while he's also saving everyone, to defeat Ronan. In Guardians 2, they largely remove her from combat outside of Nebula towards the end and the monster at the beginning.

    Sif and Hope are supporting characters who, despite their significant experience, aren't actually very helpful when it comes down to the saving, and get saved just like the rest of the world/universe, and do nothing to save the lives of the male heroes in the meantime. They simply are unnecessary utility packaged in eye candy.

    And those are just the characters who, logically speaking, should be just as competent in combat and saving as the male heroes they are around. This extends to Elektra, Colleen Wing, and Misty Knight. This is to say nothing about Jane Foster or Christine Palmer. Never you mind. The actual standouts are Pepper Potts who saves Tony twice in Iron Man, whereas he only saves her once, and then actually is the 'hero' who defeats the villain in Iron Man 3. Also you've got Peggy Carter who doesn't ever get saved, but actually comes to Steve's rescue near the end of The First Avenger.

    Keeping in mind that male characters do not have this dynamic. Many male supporting characters seem to help save the hero, but never need saving themselves. Some do, like Rhodey in Iron Man 2, but these are the exceptions. It's not about just being support characters it's about how women are conceived, because even though MCU is doing better than most by actually having female heroes that are cool and interesting, the MCU is still a universe that is illogically dominated by men, because that's what the source material had. In a more "realistic" world, about half of the Avengers would be women. About half of the Defenders. About half of the Guardians of the Galaxy.
     
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  13. Darepool

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    Trying to get a then indie studio up and running was his biggest concern. It's a business, he didn't have time to worry if 'some' would be offended there are not as many leads for women. He did the smart thing by pushing the characters that gave the studio it's best chance of thriving . Now that the MCU is established they studio can branch out.

    People need to separate themselves from the dying twitter bubble and start living in the real world sometimes.
     
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  14. LaughterLives

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    I think they should make a She-Hulk movie first. After Captain Marvel and kinda build up an all women superhero team flick like they did with the Avengers. Not exactly the same way necessarily but similar to.
     
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  15. Darepool

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    I'd like an all female road trip comedy film
     
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  16. Gamma Ra

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    I agree.

    Now that Marvel Studios finally has the Hulk with a personality that can speak, I don't mind that they introduce She-Hulk. I don't see why Jennifer could not be introduced in an A-Force movie.
     
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  17. Kahran Ramsus

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    I'd love for them to find a way to get Jessica Jones in this. She's been my favorite live action Marvel heroine so far.
     
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  18. Darepool

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    Am I the only one who would love a Porky's style shower scene with our beautiful heroines? Maybe they are staying at a Holiday Inn on a much needed 'bonding' road trip, and the towel boy peeks at them through a hole in the tile.

    I guess that makes me a pig in today's political climate, but the idea of a nude She-Hulk. Yabba Dabba Do!

    It should be R-rated and directed by Aronofsky, PT Anderson or the Quebecois.
     
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  19. MbJ

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    If it finally gets us She-Hulk, I'm all for it.
     
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  20. ludovica

    ludovica Daddy Feige notice me!

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    You are correct, but I would say it comes down mostly to the female characters being until now always lower on the power scale totem: it is mostly due to historic characterization in comics, reason why X-men are definetly mismanaged by Fox, wasting their shot at dominant female heroes.
    That's not an excuse and Captain Marvel will not be and should not be enough to content us, but in some cases (Black Widow) it could be excused by her being just human among supers: rightfully Hawkeye does not get a privileged treatment compared to her.
     
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  21. ludovica

    ludovica Daddy Feige notice me!

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    Depending on the resolution of Avengers 4, I would really like something like this to just be Avengers 5.
    Treat it like nothing special, as it should ideally be, the social climate will take care of stressing how important and needed, sadly, it is.
     
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  22. Silvermoth

    Silvermoth Avenger

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    Oh my gosh I would freaking love it!

    Pepper, widow, agent Carter, quake, mantis, scarlet witch, Valkyrie, jess jones. What more could you ask for? But who would be the perfect villain?
     
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  23. Fincher

    Fincher Too far gone

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    I'm not into this idea, but that's because I'm not into the Avengers films, and this amounts to female Avengers. I'd rather have female solo properties.
     
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  24. ludovica

    ludovica Daddy Feige notice me!

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    Avengers 5:

    Black Widow, Wasp, Wanda, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel, Monica Rambeau, Black Panther (token male)

    vs

    Graviton, with a full on gamergater persona

    and we're set. :hmr:
     
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  25. MbJ

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    I'm amused to see they've already got pretty much the entire original line-up in the MCU already.

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    I'd love if they even just had a gag of those characters hanging out together in Infinity War or A4.
     
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