The 2012 Basketball Olympics in London Thread

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Discuss all basketball Team USA talks here and post pics. I know the Olympics are a long ways from now, but let the hype, talk, and speculation for them begin!

My Olympic Roster for Team USA in 2012 is.....
starting line-up
G Dwayne Wade
G Kobe Bryant
F Lebron James
F Carmelo Anthony
C Dwight Howard
bench
G Derrick Rose
G/F Kevin Durant
F Kevin Garnett
C Amare Stoudemire
F Chris Bosh
G Chris Paul
G Micheal Redd
 
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McGrady's done. Steve Nash is Canadian.

Chris Paul should be there, Deron Williams probably as well over Agent Zero (I'm a Zona fan and love Gil myself...)

Michael Redd should be in there too.

2012 and KG... I don't know, a lot can happen in 3 years and Garnett has played a lot of basketball over the years since making the jump to the NBA from a young age.

To me... I'd go with.

Paul
Kobe
Lebron
Melo
Howard

First 3 off the bench
Wade
Stoudemire
Forward... Probably a Kevin Durant or Chris Bosh

Then round it out with:
Deron Williams
Shawn Marion (fast ball player... will run the floor, stick with the US's strengths)
A shooter, weakside guard - Brandon Roy or Michael Redd
The best remaining big who fits the international game To Be Determined in early 2012

That's how I'd do it...
 
Okay, I reedited my team. I took out Nash and McGrady.

My all-time roster's dream team would consist of.......
G Earvin Magic Johnson
G Micheal Jordan
F Larry Bird
F Dennis Rodman
C Kareem Abdul Jabbar
bench
F Bill Russell
F Scottie Pippen
G John Stockton
G Kobe Bryant
F Lebron James
F Hakeem Olajuwon
C Shaquille O'Neill
 
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bill russell on the bench? that's blasphemy!
 
i really don't think Amare should be on the team. He's been injury plagued and hasn't really played much. I think the spot should go to someone else.
 
As a Suns fan I'll agree with you...

But only because I'm corrupt by nature and would both much prefer the increased chance we, like the rest of the world, have of beating the US with Amare absent and also because I'd like to see Amare healthy for the NBA season :-)
 
D-Wade had by far the best Olympics coming off the bench. IMO, he should start.
 
i kinda have a feeling Brandon Roy will be on the team. At the very least he'll be one of the last few considered for a spot
 
Golf, rugby favorites for entry in 2016 Olympics

BERLIN – The prospect of Tiger Woods competing for an Olympic gold medal may be moving closer to becoming reality.

Golf, along with rugby sevens, look to be the favorites among the sports being considered Thursday for inclusion in the 2016 Summer Games by the International Olympic Committee.

The IOC executive board will select two sports from a proposed list of seven, which also includes baseball, softball, squash, karate and roller sports. The 15-member board will submit two sports for ratification in a vote of the full 106-member IOC assembly in Copenhagen in October.

"It will be a long and difficult discussion," IOC board member Gerhard Heiberg told The Associated Press. "I think there will be different opinions. We hope to be able to make a unanimous decision, but it will be hard to find a common denominator."

Leaders of the seven sports made presentations to the IOC board in June in Lausanne, Switzerland, and have continued to lobby extensively. A report by the IOC program commission detailing the attributes of each sport will be reviewed by the board Thursday.

Several IOC members and officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because no decision has been announced, said golf and rugby have the strongest chance of making the cut. Softball has been pushing hard and could still be in the running.

Some executive board members said anything was possible.

"I read and heard that golf and rugby were the favorites, but I've heard some reservations as well," board member Denis Oswald said. "It's pretty open and difficult to predict."

The board will also rule on proposed changes for the 2012 London Olympics, including the addition of women's boxing, mixed doubles in tennis, 50-meter sprints in swimming, BMX freestyle events in cycling and a shortened format for modern pentathlon.

Golf was played at the 1900 Paris Olympics and 1904 St. Louis Games. The sport's backers say bringing the game back into the Olympics would help it grow worldwide, noting that in many countries only Olympic sports receive government funding.

One of the main issues has been whether golf's top multimillionaire players would compete in the Olympics, when they already have a full schedule of majors, tour events and international team competitions. Women's great Annika Sorenstam and European Ryder Cup captain Colin Montgomerie appeared before the IOC board in June to assure members that top players would consider the Olympics as important as a major.

Woods — the biggest name of all — appeared in a video backing golf's case. And, in his most definitive comments yet about the Olympics, Woods indicated Tuesday he would play if golf gets the nod from the IOC.

"If I'm not retired by then, yeah," Woods, who will be 40 in 2016, said on the eve of the PGA Championship. "I think that golf is a truly global sport and I think it should have been in the Olympics a while ago. If it does get in, I think it would be great for golf and some of the other small countries that are now emerging in golf."

Golf proposes a 72-hole stroke-play competition for men and women, with 60 players in each field. The world's top 15 players would qualify automatically, and all major professional tours would alter tournament schedules to avoid a clash with the Olympics.

Rugby, which was last played at the 1924 Olympics in the full 15-a-side format, hopes to return in the faster, short-format 7-a-side version for both men and women.

Softball and baseball are seeking a return to the Olympics after being voted off the program four years ago for the 2012 London Games. Attempted reinstatements were rejected by the IOC in 2006, but the two are back again hoping to avoid strike three.

Baseball — which has failed to bring top major league players to the Olympics — is offering a shortened five-day, eight-team format intended to ensure the participation of some big-name stars. But that appears unlikely to sway the IOC to change its mind.

Softball, which rejected a proposal to combine its bid with baseball, has stressed its work in developing the sport among youth and women in the Middle East and Africa and in keeping free of doping scandals.

Still undecided is how the two sports picked Thursday will be voted on in Copenhagen, one at a time or together as a package. It's possible some rank-and-file members may resist the recommendations, although IOC leaders insist the assembly had asked the board to make proposals.

"Hopefully they will trust us," Oswald said.

How the hell does Rugby make it but not baseball? Rugby is pretty much irrelevant in the entire Western hemisphere and East Asia (mainlands) is it not? Not saying baseball is played by everybody but still. I don't think that Rugby would work for the same reason baseball and cricket do not work. The IOC still should have taken that five day baseball format. Would have been perfect.
 
Rugby Sevens is perfect for the Olympics format... I think you need to look into the sport a bit more to judge.

That said rugby sevens is a modified game... it'd be like throwing touch football or 20-20 cricket out there.

Baseball has been pretty underwhelming in Olympics of late, and this is the London Olympics... it does kind of make sense.
 
I'd imagine any of these major team competitions would cost a lot of money in terms of facilities, venues, and what not. All three of those sports (baseball, cricket, rugby) are too regionalized IMO. If you don't include all three, I'd rather you just scrap them all. I'd prefer baseball of the three, but I don't believe rugby belongs in there over those other two sports.
 
Why would rugby cost a lot of money in venues and facilities?
 
Why would rugby cost a lot of money in venues and facilities?
I mean... correct me if I'm wrong, but I had an idea they're not exactly short of football stadiums over there.

If anything, bringing up cost only helps rugby's cause.

Then there's the fact that its the broadest played sport after football (soccer) and basketball...
 
I mean... correct me if I'm wrong, but I had an idea they're not exactly short of football stadiums over there.

If anything, bringing up cost only helps rugby's cause.

Then there's the fact that its the broadest played sport after football (soccer) and basketball...

Is it? Obviously I am aware that they can play in soccer stadiums. But I thought the sport was only played in Europe, New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, and a few of those small countries/islands in that surrounding area. East Asia doesn't play it. Majority of Africa doesn't play it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I didn't think it was that popular. Certainly not on par with the major two sports.
 
Baseball is not mentioned because none of the best players in the sport will ever play baseball in the Olympics. Unless that changes, baseball will never be returning as an Olympic sport.
 
Is it? Obviously I am aware that they can play in soccer stadiums. But I thought the sport was only played in Europe, New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, and a few of those small countries/islands in that surrounding area. East Asia doesn't play it. Majority of Africa doesn't play it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I didn't think it was that popular. Certainly not on par with the major two sports.
Its not on par with the top two sports... but I still think its about third.

Japan is fast growing in rugby. Obviously its not as highly thought of there as baseball is, but its fast growing. From my favoured team, the ACT Brumbies, we have former Wallabies sacrificing their chance for International selection by playing for more money over in the league Japan has set up. Mark Gerrard will be playing there and he's sacrificing part of his prime to play there...

Argentina made the quarter finals last year... The US has a decent contingency of people who play and follow it (although its nowhere near the top 4 US sports and soccer also rates far above it there too) ditto Canada.

A lot of countries play it but aren't that crash hot at the game because it has very different levels of skill...

A lot more nations play it than you'd think, making it sevens should increase participation and also competition between some of the smaller nations.

Since its now sevens rather than actual 15 man rugby I wouldn't be surprised if Fiji were front runners... plus a lot of these nations who aren't considered to be rugby powerhouses play a lot of sevens because it can be difficult to get numbers for participation. Australia is relatively weak in sevens compared with their position in regular rugby as a result...

Baseball I have more trouble seeing in the required tournament style that the Olympics would require than Sevens. Throw in the fact that there'd be no players there and baseball is way down my own list of sports I'd want to watch. Throw in the relative costs of building venues for baseball compared with marking lines on a football field... its not a hard decision, really.
 
I really think they can rotate those three sports depending on which country is hosting. Cricket country, baseball country, Rugby country... that would make more sense to me. Don't see why it would be a huge problem considering the venues would already be available in most cases at the site. If Chicago gets the bid and there is no baseball that is an absolute disgrace.

Baseball is not mentioned because none of the best players in the sport will ever play baseball in the Olympics. Unless that changes, baseball will never be returning as an Olympic sport.

Well they pitched a five day format. Do it similar to the the WBC, 2 pools. Two teams from each pool advance... semifinal/final. Basically a week out of the season tops. IOC probably wants a two week competition, but I still think it is doable.
 
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im probably the only one who cares, but here's to crossing my fingers that softball gets back in 2016
 
I really think they can rotate those three sports depending on which country is hosting. Cricket country, baseball country, Rugby country... that would make more sense to me. Don't see why it would be a huge problem considering the venues would already be available in most cases at the site. If Chicago gets the bid and there is no baseball that is an absolute disgrace.



Well they pitched a five day format. Do it similar to the the WBC, 2 pools. Two teams from each pool advance... semifinal/final. Basically a week out of the season tops. IOC probably wants a two week competition, but I still think it is doable.
If the US had the Olympics I think it'd be a fairly safe bet to say that baseball would be in...
 
im probably the only one who cares, but here's to crossing my fingers that softball gets back in 2016
Not really, personally I'd prefer softball be in than baseball considering how boring Olympic baseball has been.
 
Not really, personally I'd prefer softball be in than baseball considering how boring Olympic baseball has been.

well apparently softball didnt get through but rugby and golf did.

i dont mind rugby getting in but golf didnt really need to. there are hardly any women's sports as it is, and golf has enough tournaments and whatnot year round
ugh
 
well apparently softball didnt get through but rugby and golf did.

i dont mind rugby getting in but golf didnt really need to. there are hardly any women's sports as it is, and golf has enough tournaments and whatnot year round
ugh

There's still Womens Basketball, in which the United States is always dominant. The USA Women will win another Gold Medal in 2012.
 
There's still Womens Basketball, in which the United States is always dominant. The USA Women will win another Gold Medal in 2012.
Perhaps...

Although every year that Lauren Jackson gets older our chances decrease now. We should just keep her in stasis...
 

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