Action-Adventure The 26th James Bond Film

[elgaz]

They don’t necessarily have to kill off Bond with the retirement of each actor from the role going forward, but I do think that them killing Craig’s version of 007 set a good precedent. It allows each new series of films with each actor - be they 3, 4, maybe more - to have their own unique & distinct tone and style. Some may be more serious, others more comedic, Bond may be older or younger, and continuity only has to be restricted to that series of movies until once again restarted. It’s not dissimilar to Burton’s, Snyder’s, Nolan’s and Reeves versions of Batman all being different takes on the same character.

I know a few casual viewers amongst family/friends who sometimes questioned Bonds continuity throughout all the early films, not sure for example if Brosnan was meant to be the same ageless character that Connery played.

 

[DeadlyWest]

I totally understand what you're saying. I don't think they can keep doing that (meaning... killing the character everytime a new actor comes along). But they can keep making the character a bit more three-dimensional like Craig's version. Part of why I like his Bond so much is because he isn't as flat as previous incarnations. There's a certain complexity to the character and to his movies that I think elevated the franchise but still maintained what makes it so much fun to watch on repeat viewings.

Absolutely the more nuanced layering of the character needs to stay, I'm in full agreement there. There's definitely many things from Craig's run that need to carry over. But the main two that I think need to stay with Craig are A: the whole "lmao Bond you're old" schtick. It worked in Skyfall but was pretty redundant by NTTD tbh and B: rebooting the series constantly. They kinda have to here, but they cannot keep repeating that every 15 years.

 

[Filmfreak]

Absolutely the more nuanced layering of the character needs to stay, I'm in full agreement there. There's definitely many things from Craig's run that need to carry over. But the main two that I think need to stay with Craig are A: the whole "lmao Bond you're old" schtick. It worked in Skyfall but was pretty redundant by NTTD tbh and B: rebooting the series constantly. They kinda have to here, but they cannot keep repeating that every 15 years.

We tend to forget but reboots didn't really exist before Craig's version, only remakes and sequels did, hence why previous Bond movies were (kind of) the latter. If Spider-Man and Batman are being rebooted twice in less than a decade, they absolutely can and they probably will. Whether they should that's another story, but this is the world we live in now.

 

[Frodo]

I want them to chart their own path with this new, younger, Bond.

While I hope they keep the high quality of films like CR and SF , I don't want a rehash of the Craig era , or a younger version of the Craig's Bond.

This new Bond has to be his own man , while obviously keeping the traits inherent to the James Bond character.

I agree with presenting the more nuanced layers of the character , which is gonna happen regardless of which direction they go , I suspect.

But I want a new, distinct, version of Bond, for the 2020s and 2030s.

 

[DyeLorean]

the whole "lmao Bond you're old" schtick. It worked in Skyfall but was pretty redundant by NTTD tbh

That was so bizarre. He got 00 status in Casino and two movies later he's like the old agent that needs to retire? It would've made more sense if it was like his 6th movie.

 

[Frodo]

That was so bizarre. He got 00 status in Casino and two movies later he's like the old agent that needs to retire? It would've made more sense if it was like his 6th movie.

It was a choice to be sure . .

I love me some Skyfall, but yeah , you would have thought he'd lived through The Connery and Moore era worth of adventures, by the time Skyfall comes around.

 

[Lily Adler]

That was so bizarre. He got 00 status in Casino and two movies later he's like the old agent that needs to retire? It would've made more sense if it was like his 6th movie.

It was a choice to be sure . .

I love me some Skyfall, but yeah , you would have thought he'd lived through The Connery and Moore era worth of adventures, by the time Skyfall comes around.

Wasn't Craig signaling he was done with Bond after Skyfall? 🤔

 

[DyeLorean]

Wasn't Craig signaling he was done with Bond after Skyfall? 🤔

I don't think so. He has said that after filming each movie he feels exhausted and doesn't want to get into another movie , but I don't remember him saying he was seriously done. Certainly not after Skyfall which was such a big hit.

 

[Frodo]

Wasn't Craig signaling he was done with Bond after Skyfall? 🤔

That was something I was trying to remember , because the film does feel like it could have been an end to his tenure , if Craig didn't come back.

They ended it in such a way that his Bond could have returned for future films, or, things could have come full circle, and Craig's Bond's arch would be done.

Again , that's if Craig for whatever reason decided not to return.

But the film was a big hit , so it became film by film , whether or not Craig would come back.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I think Spectre was potentially his final film because of how hard it was on him. It even ended on a, “and they lived happily ever after”.

But probably coupled with its mixed reaction, and Craig actually missing the role in the years that followed, they went for one last definitive film thankfully.

 

[elgaz]

I think what happened was that every film was a slog, and as soon as they finished filming and were doing press and so on, Craig was getting asked about the next one - which he didn’t even want to think about yet. I recall him liking it to being asked at the end of a 25 mile marathon about when you’re doing the next one, when it’s the last thing you want to do at that point. But the press then made it sound like he was constantly ready to give up the role

 

[Drizzle]

I think what happened was that every film was a slog, and as soon as they finished filming and were doing press and so on, Craig was getting asked about the next one - which he didn’t even want to think about yet. I recall him liking it to being asked at the end of a 25 mile marathon about when you’re doing the next one, when it’s the last thing you want to do at that point. But the press then made it sound like he was constantly ready to give up the role

I believe Craig's exact words were "I'd rather slash my wrists" when asked if he'd play Bond again after Spectre. He later said he was joking and he thought it came across as ungrateful but at the time he really wasn't certain he'd be back.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I remember Barbara Broccoli talking about how Craig wanted to get out of the series as far back as the Casino Royale premiere.

 

[:eek:]

James Bond Producer Barbara Broccoli Attends Qatari Gala Dinner In Venice Sparking More Chatter That 007 Could Be Headed To The Middle East

Producer's presence added fuel to to recent reports that she is attempting to secure Qatari finance for ex-James Bond actor Daniel Craig’s Othello.

deadline.com

 

[:eek:]

Ben Whishaw Predicts James Bond Exit & Says He Thinks Franchise Will Rebrand With Entirely New Cast

Whishaw said he thinks the James Bond franchise will rebrand with an entirely new cast.

deadline.com

 

[Frodo]

I tend to think Whishaw is correct

Even though Whishaw, Fiennes, and Harris were great , I don't think they'll continue the "holdover" notion they did from the previous iterations of the franchise,
particularly, since we've seen these particular iterations of M , Q, and Moneypenny, mourn Bond's death.

It's gonna be a hard reboot , with a fresh coat of paint , so I highly doubt the previous actors will return.

 

[elgaz]

I would usually think same, but the Broccolis brought over Judy Dench from the Pierce Brosnan films right into Daniel Craig's films. Oddly enough, playing the same character with extremely similar traits and mannerisms in both of the series of films she was in, but as far as I know, it's not actually meant to be the same person behind the character. A bit like an alternate universe version of M.

So who knows - I wouldn't put it past them to keep any of the Craig cast who really impressed them. Personally the only one I really liked enough to see back was Fiennes as Mallory. Would have liked to have found out more about his backstory, SAS or whatever he was in.

 

[Babillygunn]

I view Bond like Mad Max films. Continuity is the least important aspect of the films.

I really hope that we don’t start getting a beginning, middle and end with retirement/death of the character each time it is recast. I am solidly in the fluid continuity camp when the alternative is a series of repeated reboots.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Nope. I’m all for Bond dying at the end of EVERY movie now.

Just kidding. In all seriousness, I think it’s fine if the next film is set in Bond’s early days as a 00 agent (assuming they cast an actor in his early 30s) but yeah I don’t need them to do the whole Nolan thing again and make the series of films with that actor its own (mostly) self-contained thing.

 

[Drizzle]

I still think the next one might skew closer to the Brosnan movies than the Craig ones.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I would adapt Moonraker again for the next one.

 

[Lily Adler]

A woman as a bond villain?

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Lily Adler]

Why does he have to explain when the answer is right there?