The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[Spider-Fan83]

I think SM1 was more profitable that TA

It was made for less the 3/5th the budget.It made 820M at the box-office,some 450M from DVD and VHS sales,60M from TV rights,110M merchandise sales plus it had a successful Video Game tie-in

Add them all up and add the inflation factor and that's ****loads of money

is that overall dvd/vhs sale to date, or like with in a years of release?

 

[Mr.M]

Ima go with another 750-800. If the word of mouth is good, maybe 850. If it is Dark Knight level, I can see 950. But I'm gonna say it flatlines at 800. 300 domestic, 550 WW best case scenario.

 

[JOE]

800M + and I'm happy.

1B + and I go streaking.

Under 800M and I dye my hair black.

Under 750M and I blow up a hospital.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think SM1 was more profitable that TA

It was made for less the 3/5th the budget.It made 820M at the box-office,some 450M from DVD and VHS sales,60M from TV rights,110M merchandise sales plus it had a successful Video Game tie-in

Add them all up and add the inflation factor and that's ****loads of money

Right, didn't it cost only about $150 million?

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm gonna say around $850 MIL

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think SM1 was more profitable that TA

It was made for less the 3/5th the budget.It made 820M at the box-office,some 450M from DVD and VHS sales,60M from TV rights,110M merchandise sales plus it had a successful Video Game tie-in

Add them all up and add the inflation factor and that's ****loads of money

If you increase the revenue for inflation you have to also increase SM1's budget for inflation.

 

[Spiderdevil]

is that overall dvd/vhs sale to date, or like with in a years of release?

That stat is from 2004,420M actually

I figure it must be near 450 after the other two released

 

[Spiderdevil]

If you increase the revenue for inflation you have to also increase SM1's budget for inflation.

140M from 2002 equals around 178M today,still a lot lesser than TA's 230M

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

and you can't compare dvd sales from the early 2000's to the present.

The early 2000's was the height of the dvd craze. DVD sales across the board were much higher for all movies. Even Avatar had very low dvd sales compared to movies from that era.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

140M from 2002 equals around 178M today,still a lot lesser than TA's 230M

Yeah and Avengers made almost double what SM1 did at the worldwide box office.

Even if you adjust for inflation and 3D there's no way SM1 is a clear winner.

 

[Spiderdevil]

and you can't compare dvd sales from the early 2000's to the present.

The early 2000's was the height of the dvd craze. DVD sales across the board were much higher for all movies. Even Avatar had very low dvd sales compared to movies from that era.

Why cant I?

Doesn't TA have a clear advantage in terms of 3D,costlier tickets,much more screens,bigger markets in the foreign department,the genre being much more famous and what not?

Its TA which had it easy rather than SM1

 

[Spiderdevil]

Yeah and Avengers made almost double what SM1 did at the worldwide box office.

Even if you adjust for inflation and 3D there's no way SM1 is a clear winner.

Almost double? 820M from 2002 is 1.05 Billion now,how is that double?

820M(box office) + 450(DVD+VHS) + 90M(TV rights) + 110M(merchandise) is 1470M.
Which accounts for almost 1.9 Billion today and on a budget smaller that TA's(178M converted compared to 230M)

I am not saying that it beats TA for sure but it definitely was as profitable

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Why cant I?

Doesn't TA have a clear advantage in terms of 3D,costlier tickets,much more screens,bigger markets in the foreign department,the genre being much more famous and what not?

Its TA which had it easy rather than SM1

Costlier tickets during a recession is not exactly an advantage.

and Spider-man has always been far more popular than the Avengers. Since the 1960's Spider-man has been an American icon. The hype for the first Spider-man movie was enormous. Only a handful of movies had comparable anticipation build up (The Phantom Menace, Matrix Reloaded, Batman '89). The superhero genre being fresh only helped SM1 which was why it was the peak of the Spider-man franchise in ticket sales by far.

 

[JOE]

It's sad knowing that if they didn't completely butcher SM3 it would have went down as the best CBM trilogy of all time.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It's sad knowing that if they didn't completely butcher SM3 it would have went down as the best CBM trilogy of all time.

The wasted potential :'(

Its the best CBM duology as far as I'm concerned.

 

[JOE]

The wasted potential :'(

Its the best CBM duology as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know... BB and TDK might take that category.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't know... BB and TDK might take that category.

I like Spider-Man 1 & 2 more than BB and TDK

 

[Spiderdevil]

Costlier tickets during a recession is not exactly an advantage.

and Spider-man has always been far more popular than the Avengers. Since the 1960's Spider-man has been an American icon. The hype for the first Spider-man movie was enormous. Only a handful of movies had comparable anticipation build up (The Phantom Menace, Matrix Reloaded, Batman '89). The superhero genre being fresh only helped SM1 which was why it was the peak of the Spider-man franchise in ticket sales by far.

You know what,it doesn't matter

Both SM1 and TA had its fair share of promoting and demoting factors during the time they released

My point was that SM1 was as profitable as TA when you add up all the earnings

 

[Spiderdevil]

I don't know... BB and TDK might take that category.

I don't know why BB is appreciated so much

I think its a really overrated movie.The origin part is nice but the rest of the movie is terrible

Likes of IM1,SM1 are far better origin movies
I even prefer TASM over it

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't know why BB is appreciated so much

I think its a really overrated movie.The origin part is nice but the rest of the movie is terrible

Likes of IM1,SM1 are far better origin movies
I even prefer TASM over it

I wouldn't say the rest of BB was terrible, but it wasn't anything special. The origin part of the film was amazing, and afterwards the movie went downhill. I think it just got more appreciation after TDK was released, but I do think its a little overrated these days.

I like it slightly more than SM1. Here are my origin film rankings:

1. Iron Man
2. Batman Begins
3. The Amazing Spider-Man
4. Spider-Man

 

[JOE]

I'm in the process of rewatching Raimi's trilogy and #3 just feels like a completely different movie.

I want set pictures and DNA of Raimi to confirm he wasn't locked in a closet somewhere and Chameleon (who's a Nolanite) directed it to sabotage it before TDK came out.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I'm in the process of rewatching Raimi's trilogy and #3 just feels like a completely different movie.

I want set pictures and DNA of Raimi to confirm he wasn't locked in a closet somewhere and Chameleon (who's a Nolanite) directed it to sabotage it before TDK came out.

Spider-Man 1 & 2 go hand-in-hand together. They have the same feel, but are still totally different movies. It felt like Spider-Man 2 took everything that was good about the first film, and made it 10X better.

The issue with Spider-Man 3 is that we're dealing with a storyline that felt so out of place (the symbiote). Sam Raimi is a fan of the comics from the 60s-70s, and he captured the spirit of that era very well with the first two installments. Then he was forced to use a character he did not believe in, and it just didn't blend in very well with the established universe.

 

[JOE]

I don't know Picard, my theory still sounds better.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't know Picard, my theory still sounds better.

Hehe, most certainly. lol

 

[Spiderdevil]

I don't know why people say so

But I don't believe all this 'he was didn't understand the symbiote' thingy

There is nothing difficult to understand as far as Eddy Brock and symbiote are concerned.He needs to figure out a way to bring the symbiote to earth.He needs to show a proper corrupted black suited Spider-man.He needs to introduce Eddy Brock and show his hatred for Spider-man and Peter Parker in a way it looks sympathetic.Then he needs to combine them both and have a Venom.

With his experience in Horror movies it shouldn't have been hard for him to show a scary Venom

Point is,the makers and fans wanted Venom,it was his job to understand the character before making the movie about him rather than give an excuse later on.And if he didn't understand,he should have stepped down

Imagine is tomorrow a director comes along and says that he would be using the Joker in a Batman movie or Goblin in a Spider-man movie because 'he doesn't understand them'