The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread

[Picard Sisko]

I don't know why people say so

But I don't believe all this 'he was didn't understand the symbiote' thingy

There is nothing difficult to understand as far as Eddy Brock and symbiote are concerned.He needs to figure out a way to bring the symbiote to earth.He needs to show a proper corrupted black suited Spider-man.He needs to introduce Eddy Brock and show his hatred for Spider-man and Peter Parker in a way it looks sympathetic.Then he needs to combine them both and have a Venom.

With his experience in Horror movies it shouldn't have been hard for him to show a scary Venom

Point is,the makers and fans wanted Venom,it was his job to understand the character before making the movie about him rather than give an excuse later on.And if he didn't understand,he should have stepped down

Imagine is tomorrow a director comes along and says that he would be using the Joker in a Batman movie or Goblin in a Spider-man movie because 'he doesn't understand them'

He couldn't just step down since he was under contract.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Then he should have done his homework and worked on the script

That wasn't the first time a director was having problems.WB forced Nolan to add Rachel in BB and IM1 went into production without a script.And looked how they turned out

Even SM2's initial scripts were a mess with many villains(Lizard,Black Cat,Vulture among others),a couple of scripts were even rejected.Despite that the movie turned out great

 

[Picard Sisko]

The issue was that they forced Venom into the film while the script's final draft was already written and there was an established storyline. There was no room for him.

If anything, he should have been forced to introduce the symbiote. In the end, they should have let Sam Raimi do his thing, and do Venom for a fourth movie with a director who really knows and loves the character.

I'm glad Orci and Kurtzman known and LOVE Venom, and want the character to return someday.

 

[JOE]

Venom has the potential to be his most interesting foe, if done correctly. The stalking, the "No where to run, and no where to hide" idea is just incredible. How do you defeat a foe that knows everything about you because it was once you. How does Spider-Man fight someone who knows every single move he's going to make before he even makes it, not to mention his spider-sense doesn't work on him. SM3 didn't touch any of that, the best parts of Venom were overlooked. Waste.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Venom has the potential to be his most interesting foe, if done correctly. The stalking, the "No where to run, and no where to hide" idea is just incredible. How do you defeat a foe that knows everything about you because it was once you. How does Spider-Man fight someone who knows every single move he's going to make before he even makes it, not to mention his spider-sense doesn't work on him. SM3 didn't touch any of that, the best parts of Venom were overlooked. Waste.

The 90s animated series captured that perfectly. Venom could be incredibly frightening if portrayed correctly. In SM3 he was basically "the other bad Spider-Man."

Venom NEEDS to be put back on the screen someday.

 

[JOE]

I hope Webb is the one to do it. He can bring an interesting view to the character.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Anyways, back on topic... does anyone think that TASM2 could make less than TASM?

Spider-Man 2 made less than its predecessor, but then again SM1's hype was HUGE. Just like I doubt TA2 will make as much as the first one.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

It could, but I don't see it happening. There's a lot of terrific actors attached to this film. I think that helps it's chances of passing TASM.

 

[JOE]

This movie will pass TASM, it's just a matter of passing SM and SM2.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I think ASM2 has a very good chance of breaking a billion at the box-office.

I also think DOFP and TF4 have the potential to do that as well.

And luckily, all of them are spaced out enough where its possible.

Yeah, DOFP releases in the same month as ASM2, but it does so on the 26th. ASM2 releases on the 2nd and will have started its international run, in multiple markets, 3 weeks prior on April 18th, so all is well.

 

[SpideyFan866]

This movie will pass TASM, it's just a matter of passing SM and SM2.

I don't see this being a problem. ASM1 could have, and probably would have, had TDKR not released 2 weeks following domestically, and simultaneously in China, where are VERY large amount of revenue comes from.

At the time TDKR released and stopped ASM dead in its tracks, ASM was tracking very well, and faced little competition.

I still feel that ASM would have gotten a "Billion Dollar Boost" had it been moved up week into G.I. Joe: Retaliation's original June 29th release date. The spot was entirely vacant and would've given ASM two weeks without any new competition, as opposed to the one it had.

 

[JOE]

DOFP has no chance to make 1B, IMO. 350M WW and First Class was a good movie. I just don't see people filling the seats for X-Men anymore.

 

[SpideyFan866]

DOFP has no chance to make 1B, IMO. 350M WW and First Class was a good movie. I just don't see people filling the seats for X-Men anymore.

I strongly disagree. FC and, shockingly, The Wolverine has revitalized interest in the franchise. And I think pairing of the FC cast and OT cast (which will have been gone from the films for 8 years by time the film opens) will, alone, be enough to draw people in. Seeing the popular FC cast with the returning OT cast will be a much more significant draw than some might think.

But you also have to factor in the usage of the Days of Future Past story, which is loved by fanboys and the GA alike. ESPECIALLY with GA fans who were fans of the Sentinels and that story from the 1990s Cartoon.

 

[SpideyFan866]

If any CBM next year (outside of the obvious GOTG) has a zero chance of hitting 1 Billion, its Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

Most of its gross will likely come domestically.

CA2 essentially has the entire month of April to itself domestically. However, the international markets (particularly the european market) share the April 4th/week of April 4th release date. And as such, will have 2-3 weeks with Cap 2 until ASM2 releases.

2-3 weeks is a reasonable amount of time, but its doubtful that Captain America will have the drawing power to break 1 Billion in such a short time.

It took TDK and TDKR nearly 2 months each to do it. It took Avengers nearly 2 months, but that had the draw of being a crossover. and IM3 nearly 2, but that was coming off of The Avengers' momentum, as well as the momentum of 2 prior films in the series. And of course, RDJ's popularity.

And none of those had a sure fire behemoth like ASM2 in its way.

 

[JOE]

I just don't see how the franchise is going to go from 350M to 1B. I just don't see it happening, X-Men isn't a billion dollar contender anymore, IMO. They've saturated the franchise too much for too long.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I just don't see how the franchise is going to go from 350M to 1B. I just don't see it happening, X-Men isn't a billion dollar contender anymore, IMO. They've saturated the franchise too much for too long.

The saturation of it came from the abundance of spinoffs. And while all of them paled in comparison to the main series, financially, only 1 of the 3 was wholly unpopular with audiences.

The main series films have always been successful, growing in gross with each film, regardless of critical response, and grossing closer to the (then nearly impossible) billion mark. The spinoffs so far have been poor at the box-office because of general lack of interest in spinoffs. Not because of disinterest in the series.


Having a proper "main series" film again with the OT cast, as well as the FC cast playing a role, is enough to get butts in seats. Having it based on a popular story, and (at least from the looks of it) being a damn good movie is a plus.

The only that could possibly hold it back are the smaller, but still significant, releases like Dawn of the Apes, 22 Jump Street, and "Dragon 2" that come out in the following weeks.

However, something that will definitely help counteract anything detriment those might have is that about half (maybe more) of international markets don't get DOFP until July, as originally schedule. And some of which that don't get it until then are significant in determining WWW gross.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think DOFP could earn somewhere from $600-$800million, which would make it the highest grossing X-Men film.

 

[JOE]

Still think it's going to land between $400-$500M WW.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think it will earn a little more than that, but I definitely don't think it will cross the billion dollar mark. I think it will earn about the same as Man of Steel (which has a little under $650 million WW).

 

[Joeyjojo72]

If ASM2 has the same issues as ASM and if the villain is a disappointment it will probably make about the same as ASM. I think Webb et al are aware of the problems and will make significant improvements (though im still not sold on Electro).

My prediction: 815 million.

 

[JOE]

Unless the movie is groundbreaking, I don't think it tops 500M.

 

[Green Goblin]

I was going to have a long post here but Spideyfan866 just covered it all. Lol

 

[SpideyFan866]

Unless the movie is groundbreaking, I don't think it tops 500M.

Domestically or Worldwide? 500 million WW would be a flop compared to previous Spider-Man films, including ASM1.

 

[JOE]

I was taling about DOFP lol... ^

TASM will break 800M this time around, hopefully more.

 

[Mr.M]

DOFP is a lock for 700 million as long as it's not critically panned. FC was very acclaimed and it will have that Batman Begin to TDK effect. Plus it has an excellent release date and should dominate into June. Godzilla will bomb. Nothing else of note, outside of a handful of comedies and family films, which aren't targeting the demographic X-Men is targeting.