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[CyclopsWasRight]

Im goin to put it this way he's a nobody and not even someone you would recognize or care to know and everyone takes from him and his ideas and what not and one day someone finally recognizes that you exist and its the greatest thing and then one day you find out the hero you admire is just like everyone else and your vision is shattered your last hope in believing that some one actually cared is gone and you believe everyone is the same and once that happens and you have powers you completely lose and say screw everyone

I can relate to this

It isn't just that Spidey forgot his name. He had some hope in his life, someone finally notice him liked him, then it was taken away, it was a lie, that person forgot him like everyone else and it pushed him over the edge.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Im goin to put it this way he's a nobody and not even someone you would recognize or care to know and everyone takes from him and his ideas and what not and one day someone finally recognizes that you exist and its the greatest thing and then one day you find out the hero you admire is just like everyone else and your vision is shattered your last hope in believing that some one actually cared is gone and you believe everyone is the same and once that happens and you have powers you completely lose and say screw everyone

I can relate to this

That's one thing I like too about Electro.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It isn't just that Spidey forgot his name. It's like you said, the one person to notice him to "like" him, forgot him and it pushed him over the edge

Exactly. A man who has been alone or invisible his whole life finally gets noticed by someone, but it turns out that "someone" is just like anyone else.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Also, to respond to an older post, not EVERY villain is going to come out of Oscorp. We see that with Rhino, for example, but in the end its Oscorp that is forming the S6.

 

[GuestStar2004]

thing about rhino is if he isn't oscorp property then whats in one of the 6 chambers? does rhino takes the goblins spot? do they get the rhino suit at some point? is one of the chambers empty? is there a totally new rhino suit?

 

[Picard Sisko]

thing about rhino is if he isn't oscorp property then whats in one of the 6 chambers? does rhino takes the goblins spot? do they get the rhino suit at some point? is one of the chambers empty? is there a totally new rhino suit?

What do you mean? We don't know if anything is in those chambers as of yet, or who will be occupying them. Rhino's suit isn't from Oscorp: its Russian.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Doesn't Oscorp also have Venom and Carnage? Wasn't that an Easter Egg?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Doesn't Oscorp also have Venom and Carnage? Wasn't that an Easter Egg?

There was an easter egg in the trailer that hinted towards the Venom symbiote existing at Oscorp. That's obviously inspired by USM, and I think that makes more sense here than it randomly coming from space.

 

[GuestStar2004]

What do you mean? We don't know if anything is in those chambers as of yet, or who will be occupying them. Rhino's suit isn't from Oscorp: its Russian.

wasn't it said the doc ock arms and vulture wings were in 2 of the chambers, thats what sevenwebheads speculated by looking at pictures and backgrounds in one of his videos and can't really say he may not be on to something

the glider being in another

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

There was an easter egg in the trailer that hinted towards the Venom symbiote existing at Oscorp. That's obviously inspired by USM, and I think that makes more sense here than it randomly coming from space.

Yea I remember that from the Ultimate books. I loved Ultimate Carnage. I will say though, I think the space issue could just be solved easily by saying Jameson's son came back from a space trip and gave the symobite to Oscorp to study.

 

[Nathan]

There was an easter egg in the trailer that hinted towards the Venom symbiote existing at Oscorp. That's obviously inspired by USM, and I think that makes more sense here than it randomly coming from space.

It would be cool if they could still work the symbiote coming from space into the origin. Found and delivered to Oscorp, where they discovered that it has cancer curing properties. Then during an experiment gone horribly wrong, they actually discover that it's sentient and kept it under lock up ever since.

 

[Picard Sisko]

wasn't it said the doc ock arms and vulture wings were in 2 of the chambers, thats what sevenwebheads speculated by looking at pictures and backgrounds in one of his videos and can't really say he may not be on to something

the glider being in another

Oh, you're right… the Vulture wings and tentacles are in the chambers. The glider could also be one of them, too.

Yea I remember that from the Ultimate books. I loved Ultimate Carnage. I will say though, I think the space issue could just be solved easily by saying Jameson's son came back from a space trip and gave the symobite to Oscorp to study.

I hated Ultimate Carnage, but that's just me. I think it makes sense for "the suit" to be a creation of Richard Parker in hopes of curing cancer.

 

[Spider-man95]

wasn't it said the doc ock arms and vulture wings were in 2 of the chambers, thats what sevenwebheads speculated by looking at pictures and backgrounds in one of his videos and can't really say he may not be on to something

the glider being in another

That would make sense, but I think this is one of those things we'll find out watching the movie.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It would be cool if they could still work the symbiote coming from space into the origin. Found and delivered to Oscorp, where they discovered that it has cancer curing properties. Then during an experiment gone horribly wrong, they actually discover that it's sentient and kept it under lock up ever since.

I could see that working. Whatever it is, I just care about them getting the Venom character done right.

 

[Spideyfan117]

Also why didn't Spidey get electrocuted when Electro threw those electric bols at him in Times Square?

He did. Ever seen a squirrel touch the wrong part of a transformer? Same thing happens. It's a terrifying thing to see really. Squirrels aren't as resilient as Spidey.


Also, @Picard, you brought up an idea earlier about Max just trying to turn the electricity back on for NY, but it all results in a misunderstanding. If you're right, that scene is even more sad than it already was. Poor Max.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

I hated Ultimate Carnage, but that's just me. I think it makes sense for "the suit" to be a creation of Richard Parker in hopes of curing cancer.

Ultimate Carnage just feels so much more horrorish than 616 Carnage. 616 feels like Joker wearing the Venom suit while the Ultimate is just so much more darker and twisted. I remember that Shattered Dimensions game. Favorite level was the Ultimate Carnage one.

 

[Spider-man95]

Oh, you're right… the Vulture wings and tentacles are in the chambers. The glider could also be one of them, too.



I hated Ultimate Carnage, but that's just me. I think it makes sense for "the suit" to be a creation of Richard Parker in hopes of curing cancer.

I much prefer regular 616 Carnage too.

I like the idea of a serial killer getting his hands on a symbiote more than a vampiric life form.

 

[GuestStar2004]

That would make sense, but I think this is one of those things we'll find out watching the movie.

true

 

[Picard Sisko]

Also, @Picard, you brought up an idea earlier about Max just trying to turn the electricity back on for NY, but it all results in a misunderstanding. If you're right, that scene is even more sad than it already was. Poor Max.

Poor Max...

Ultimate Carnage just feels so much more horrorish than 616 Carnage. 616 feels like Joker wearing the Venom suit while the Ultimate is just so much more darker and twisted. I remember that Shattered Dimensions game. Favorite level was the Ultimate Carnage one.

Ultimate Carnage wasn't much of a character. It was a plot device to kill Gwen and lead into the Clone Saga. 616 Carnage is a bad*** villain with some, y'know, motivations.

 

[FN Spider-man]

Id like a mixture of 616 venom and usm I like that one

 

[Picard Sisko]

I much prefer regular 616 Carnage too.

I like the idea of a serial killer getting his hands on a symbiote more than a vampiric life form.

Thank you.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

There was an easter egg in the trailer that hinted towards the Venom symbiote existing at Oscorp. That's obviously inspired by USM, and I think that makes more sense here than it randomly coming from space.

what was that easter egg?

 

[Spider-man95]

Thank you.

I agree with you, I like my villains who can think and not just act like an animal.