The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 4

[Krystal]

They could literally create a PERFECT movie where everything actually comes together perfectly, and more than half of you would still say you hated it and you'd find things to pick at. Lol.

Untrue, most wouldn't do that.

Well said

Electro is easily the worst villain of any of the Spidey movies. Bar none.

Close to it for acting/origin--visually he was great.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They could literally create a PERFECT movie where everything actually comes together perfectly, and more than half of you would still say you hated it and you'd find things to pick at. Lol.

How could any film ever get fan, critic or general audience approval in that case?

 

[Visualiza]

Well said

Electro is easily the worst villain of any of the Spidey movies. Bar none.

And here I was thinking that it couldn't get much worse than the Lizard.

Looking back on the first movie, the Lizard was just anemic and uninteresting. Electro and Rhino were "point, laugh, and ridicule" bad. Harry was awful too, but at least Dehaan had a little more to work with than patent stupidity.

On a related note, how do some of you folks feel going into the S6 movie with this lineup of villains? Electro, Harry, Rhino, and (presumably) the Lizard...do any of these jokers drum up even a modicum of excitement?

I'm damn near terrified at the prospect; this is about the polar opposite of how I felt going into Avengers, and with my favorite hero and his rogues gallery, no less.

 

[TayDee]

Movie was good (great too me) Electro wasn't all that great, Garfield is a perfect Spiderman, Emma was great, we needed more Goblin, death scene was perfect. End of reviews. Can't wait for sequel. Go home everybody!!!!

 

[Krystal]

And here I was thinking that it couldn't get much worse than the Lizard.

Looking back on the first movie, the Lizard was just anemic and uninteresting. Electro and Rhino were "point, laugh, and ridicule" bad. Harry was awful too, but at least Dehaan had a little more to work with than patent stupidity.

On a related note, how do some of you folks feel going into the S6 movie with this lineup of villains? Electro, Harry, Rhino, and (presumably) the Lizard...do any of these jokers drum up even a modicum of excitement?

I'm damn near terrified at the prospect; this is about the polar opposite of how I felt going into Avengers, and with my favorite hero and his rogues gallery, no less.

I hope Electro is not back, I hope Giamatti tones it down, we haven't seen Vulture, Chameleon, Mysterio, Kraven etc and I'm fine with Goblin and Lizard.

 

[Krystal]

Movie was good (great too me) Electro wasn't all that great, Garfield is a perfect Spiderman, Emma was great, we needed more Goblin, . End of reviews. Can't wait for sequel. Go home everybody!!!!

Spoilers.

 

[PWN3R]

Andy G (that's what I'm calling him, we're bros) proved that he was the best Peter Parker with TASM1, but with TASM2, it's clear that he is the best iteration of Spider-Man yet. I trully wish his film's quality could match that of his performance.

I was ambivalent about TASM1. I didn't hate it like most of you (chaseter mostly) but I wasn't overwhelmed and have yet to see it since its initial theater run. However, just getting back from TASM2 and I can already say that I will definitely see this again multiple times.

It's ham-fisted, sure. The German lipstick scientist was god-awful, and Electro's lines were pretty damn cringe worthy: "Don't you know... I'm Electro." <--- Like, seriously guys? That made it past multiple rough drafts, the final script, dailies, and the edit? Reallly?

BUUUUT. I didn't hate this movie. No. I loved it. It was a blast. Its charm is in its campiness. This movie fully embraces the Spider-Man essence and because of that I can look past all the faults. That moment with the kid and Spider-Man? It's beautiful. Andy G, man. Andy G. And don't even get me started on Emma Stone as Gwen.

Last bit... honestly, for those of you that hate Electro I think we are all looking at the character wrong. Some say he didn't have development but I think it was there. This was clearly a case of a mentally disabled man becoming super-powered. Think about that for a second. It's scary. The score echoes this with all the voices serving as his theme (seriously the score was a highlight for me), not to mention the playfulness of it all before his transformation. Through that light, I think Electro works.

I can dig this.
My score:
7.5/10 would fap again.

 

[DyeLorean]

What exactly was so bad about Kafka? Seriously?

OMFG, a thick accent! THE HORROR! THE HORROR!!!!

I agree that people are nitpicking too much with that character. HOWEVER, that Dr Kafka is the perfect example of everything that's wrong with TASM 2. The villain portion of the film has so many wrong things, but the Spidey world, that character aspect, they nailed that. Which makes everything even more frustrating.
Kafka is the personification of cheesy, bad lines, and poor motivations that doomed everything around Electro and, to some extent, Green Goblin.

 

[SpideyK]

7.5/10 would fap again.

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[Visualiza]

Andy G (that's what I'm calling him, we're bros) proved that he was the best Peter Parker with TASM1, but with TASM2, it's clear that he is the best iteration of Spider-Man yet. I trully wish his film's quality could match that of his performance.

I was ambivalent about TASM1. I didn't hate it like most of you (chaseter mostly) but I wasn't overwhelmed and have yet to see it since its initial theater run. However, just getting back from TASM2 and I can already say that I will definitely see this again multiple times.

It's ham-fisted, sure. The German lipstick scientist was god-awful, and Electro's lines were pretty damn cringe worthy: "Don't you know... I'm Electro." <--- Like, seriously guys? That made it past multiple rough drafts, the final script, dailies, and the edit? Reallly?

BUUUUT. I didn't hate this movie. No. I loved it. It was a blast. Its charm is in its campiness. This movie fully embraces the Spider-Man essence and because of that I can look past all the faults. That moment with the kid and Spider-Man? It's beautiful. Andy G, man. Andy G. And don't even get me started on Emma Stone as Gwen.

Last bit... honestly, for those of you that hate Electro I think we are all looking at the character wrong. Some say he didn't have development but I think it was there. This was clearly a case of a mentally disabled man becoming super-powered. Think about that for a second. It's scary. The score echoes this with all the voices serving as his theme (seriously the score was a highlight for me), not to mention the playfulness of it all before his transformation. Through that light, I think Electro works.

I can dig this.
My score:
7.5/10 would fap again.

While I disagree, I have the utmost respect for this type of review. No mudslinging present anywhere; kudos to you. We could all learn from this sort of civility.

 

[Krystal]

Andy G (that's what I'm calling him, we're bros) proved that he was the best Peter Parker with TASM1, but with TASM2, it's clear that he is the best iteration of Spider-Man yet. I trully wish his film's quality could match that of his performance.

I was ambivalent about TASM1. I didn't hate it like most of you (chaseter mostly) but I wasn't overwhelmed and have yet to see it since its initial theater run. However, just getting back from TASM2 and I can already say that I will definitely see this again multiple times.

It's ham-fisted, sure. The German lipstick scientist was god-awful, and Electro's lines were pretty damn cringe worthy: "Don't you know... I'm Electro." <--- Like, seriously guys? That made it past multiple rough drafts, the final script, dailies, and the edit? Reallly?


BUUUUT. I didn't hate this movie. No. I loved it. It was a blast. Its charm is in its campiness. This movie fully embraces the Spider-Man essence and because of that I can look past all the faults. That moment with the kid and Spider-Man? It's beautiful. Andy G, man. Andy G. And don't even get me started on Emma Stone as Gwen.

Last bit... honestly, for those of you that hate Electro I think we are all looking at the character wrong. Some say he didn't have development but I think it was there. This was clearly a case of a mentally disabled man becoming super-powered. Think about that for a second. It's scary. The score echoes this with all the voices serving as his theme (seriously the score was a highlight for me), not to mention the playfulness of it all before his transformation. Through that light, I think Electro works.

I can dig this.
My score:
7.5/10 would fap again.

Good points---the part in bold------- lol funny.

But I agree with you about Electro and thanks for saying it----the worst of it was the dialogue---the concept of a societal reject becoming all powerful is worthwhile and could be done right.

"Slingblade" was chilling with just a lawn mower blade before he killed that guy. Imagine a real wacko--with super powers--with real disturbing dialogue and a nuanced performance--it could have been chilling and great.

Instead----"It's my birthday let's......." Ugh.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I don't mind people bringing up Dr. Kafka as something particularly lame about the film, as it WAS particularly lame. Like it's one of those moments where, even as a general malaise of disappointment is washing over you, it's still enough to make you sit up in your seat and go, "What... the actual... f&%$!?" He did feel like someone who'd have been more at home in the day-glo Arkham Asylum of the Schumacher Batman films.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

To defend him that much you really liked him didn't you? You want him to be alive and want him back in the next one to experiment on the other members of the Sinister 6, right?

You got me. I want him to get his own spin-off.

 

[DyeLorean]

Let me also point out that it has the same problems as Spider-Man 3, in the sense that everything is connected, and there are way too many coincidences: Spidey saves Max, which happens to work at Oscorp, Max that happens to run into Gwen, who also runs into Harry, and Harry goes for Max to work for him because both need/hate Spider-Man. Oh, and that Spider-Man has some connection with Oscorp, where his father used to work, and he used to work with Norman Osborn, Harry's father, and the spiders and the blood, and all of that leads to Sinister Six being from Oscorp...
Oh and that Rhino comes from Oscorp, and Aleksei almost kills Max if it wasn't for Spider-Man and that... ufffff. No, please. Is just too much.

 

[spider-neil]

Let me also point out that it has the same problems as Spider-Man 3, in the sense that everything is connected, and there are way too many coincidences: Spidey saves Max, which happens to work at Oscorp, Max that happens to run into Gwen, who also runs into Harry, and Harry goes for Max to work for him because both need/hate Spider-Man. Oh, and that Spider-Man has some connection with Oscorp, where his father used to work, and he used to work with Norman Osborn, Harry's father, and the spiders and the blood, and all of that leads to Sinister Six being from Oscorp...
Oh and that Rhino comes from Oscorp, and Aleksei almost kills Max if it wasn't for Spider-Man and that... ufffff. No, please. Is just too much.

Oscorp being the hub of the entire Spider-Man universe is by design not coincedence.

 

[Alt-Josh]

I really had no problem with Kafka. I don't get all the hate for a character that is in the movie for literally three minutes.

"It's my birthday. Time to light the candles." THAT in itself was much worse than Kafka. The one truly terrible line in the film, IMO.

 

[Hurm...]

Oscorp being the hub of the entire Spider-Man universe is by design not coincedence.

How convenient for the writers...

 

[Krystal]

I don't mind people bringing up Dr. Kafka as something particularly lame about the film, as it WAS particularly lame. Like it's one of those moments where, even as a general malaise of disappointment is washing over you, it's still enough to make you sit up in your seat and go, "What... the actual... f&%$!?" He did feel like someone who'd have been more at home in the day-glo Arkham Asylum of the Schumacher Batman films.

Right it's not how many screen minutes it was---it was the total "this doesn't belong!" effect it gave. Also they could have dubbed over his lines to make them less ridiculously arch.

And believe me it could have been cut entirely---all it contributed was that they were holding/experimenting on him--that could have been established with two lines--even a voice-over.

It's already logical/implied/assumed that if he somehow gets more electricity he will get stronger.

 

[spider-neil]

How convenient for the writers...

Spectacular Spider-Man do something very similar in that Oscorp manufacture all of Spidey's villains. And that makes sense because fantastical creatures appearing out of hapenstance is a little too random. At least with Oscorp there is a decent explaination for them.

 

[Krystal]

How convenient for the writers...

and lazy. Part of me likes that in that universe Oscorp is the well-spring of the super beings and part of me hates the lack of dramatic variety it imposes. Now after

Spoiler

Gwen's death

, maybe somehow we'll get some villain just self-made.

What the F is wrong with an egotist, self-enhanced guy like Kraven, proclaiming to the world he will catch the 'vigilante' Spider-Man?

He would be a great part for many actors to chew on--his persona is a little extreme over the top and could be played a little broad without seeming out of place. Could be a nice running sub-plot for a movie.
He wouldn't be a criminal hurting folks in general but only targeting Spidey--therefore they could clash a few times and the whole city wouldn't be obsessed with him like the Lizard or Electro.

 

[spider-neil]

Personally I like that every single super powered creature, including Spidey himself was created at Oscorp.

 

[The Joker]

Spectacular Spider-Man do something very similar in that Oscorp manufacture all of Spidey's villains.

Except they didn't. Lizard, Electro, Mysterio, Venom, Kraven, Hammerhead, and Chameleon were not Oscorp creations.

 

[Krystal]

Except they didn't. Lizard, Electro, Mysterio, Venom, Kraven, Hammerhead, and Chameleon were not Oscorp creations.

Facts are over-rated.

 

[spider-neil]

Except they didn't. Lizard, Electro, Mysterio, Venom, Kraven, Hammerhead, and Chameleon were not Oscorp creations.

True. But the premise of Norman/Oscorp to create creatures to keep Spidey distracted so he is too busy to deal with 'true' crime is sound.

 

[Krystal]

True. But the premise of Norman/Oscorp to create creatures to keep Spidey distracted so he is too busy to deal with 'true' crime is sound.

Why does Oscorp want to stop him from fighting "true crime"