The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 3

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[Spiderdevil]

At the very last day of its third week(21st day).

No,way before that
In Around 12 days I think

It was never expected except by you apparently as still no one assumed this before.

Tell me who didnt assume?
Is it too much to assume for a movie to cross 700M when the sequel made 900M?

Then how come everyone else says it did and you're the only one I've meant on these forums that seems too stubborn to acknowledge this fact?

Because I dont believe that TASM exists because of BB like you keep saying

Lol....I should've said earlier "and don't reply with more awful questions about TDK"

They are less awful than......Well you know

No...you could counter biasness with facts, which I've done. You counter supposed "biasness" with dumbfounded comments.

I have been posting facts all along that this is the 2nd best reboot if not the best yet
All you have been saying is 'It SHOULD have done better'

Because you know who started the trend? C'mon, I'll give you a hint. The movie was released in 2005.

They didnt give a rat ass about trend
There were 2 options to be different from the '02 movie...Either go the IC way and show the origin in a brief montage and concentrate on the main villian OR make the origin a major part of the movie
They went with the second option

The police chief didn't slander; he just had the wrong idea of Spider-Man. But the whole agenda of using the police force? Yep, you guessed it

It was replacing Jameson.Fact

You trying to use the exact same words as I did does not help your case, but I like the effort. Keep trying

You still havent disproved me..I think you can do better than posting simileys

Gas. Is. Gas.

Nuclear Fusion is Nuclear Fusion

And yet still isn't the exact numbered installment as BB and TAS-M are

And thats important because?

And it still didn't make up its budget as BB did in 18 days.

Yes it did it in some 12-15 days

Hey, that's fine. But I don't have much faith in what TAS-M 2 will do in the box office now.

And you probably didnt have this kind of belief with TDK?
As I said,you biasness is out of the world

No...in 21 days. Look it up.
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=spiderman4.htm

Unlike Batman Begins..this movie also made money outside North America

Yah, keep telling yourself that dude.

He was even friendzoned..no wonder he cried
The guy who left your father for dead..Sleep with him
The guy who gave everything for you..Goodbye my friend
Why?Because **** logic that why

They shouldn't have copied or OR even made TAS-M period. Yah, I said it

And yet you saw it twice

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=386605

TDKR was supposedly 4 hours long,and its final cut is 2:45
So I guess WB intervened and chopped the movie
What a dummy Nolan is

No...that's not interfering at all. That's helping the director when it comes to such a huge property. Helping with the decisions is FAR different than pushing characters into the product.

Keep telling yourself that

Nah, it is.

Its just a collection of reviews..so here you are disagreeing with 250 odd reviewers

Was Batman & Robin hyped? No, it wasn't. Hyped and anticipated movies aren't generally with awful quality films.

Very Very bad logic
Movies like Iron Man werent hyped either and neither was Batman Begins
Hype has something to do with the fanbase and the previous movies released..the advantage that a first movie does not have

Hey, that's fine if you think that.
It's worse when someone can say a children's film is better than TAS-M

Madagascer>BB

TDKR>TAS-M

Still way lower than TDK

 

[Spiderdevil]

Domestically, it took TASM 21 days to make its budget... it hasn't even made it's marketing costs (domestically), and it won't...

But lest we forget... even on the 21st day when it made its budget (domestically), it really didn't because about half of that money goes to the theatre owners...

If you include the WW numbers, then it's just starting to make profit now...

Thats actually true for all movies

 

[Spiderdevil]

thank you for bringing facts to the table unlike spiderdevil.

That guy in the link is just assuming the marketing budget like the rest of us
And you call it fact

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/hollywood-summer-remakes-reboots-sequels-124232999.html
This link says 305M combined

 

[Spiderdevil]

BB didn't came out in an era in wich the genre was as popular and broadly appealing as it is today.

Wrong..
SM1 and SM2 grossed close to 2 billion together
X-Men grossed 300M from a 75M budget in 2000
And X2 grossed 410M from a 110M budget in 2003

It's the other way around since SM3 came out first, you're calculating a decrease in budget, not an increase.

Since we are taking into consideration on how much that 70M amount corresponds to the 230M budget
So SM3 had a 31% budget more than TASM and TASM grossed 29% less than SM3

Then maybe we can try to compare TASM with the most profitable flick in the franchise in 10 years as well. Spider-Man has a profit ration of 5.91, TASM will end up close to 3.14 wich is almost two times lower. It can go both ways.

No because we are comparing it to the last movie released

And 1.1B for TDKR makes for a 4.4 profit ratio not 4.2
You're still having issues with numbers.

Yeah,my mistake
But still way lower than 5.41

Transformers had 2 (Spider-Man had 3 though).

No TASM is a reboot..your point would have made sense if this was SM4
By your logic BB had what...4 movies before it?

And who's comparing Spider-Man to any of those films ? It just shows that you can release 2 movies in a two weeks time frame during the summer and yet get billion dollar hits (with a may release reaching the billion dollar mark as well).

Because unlike TA,TASM and TDKR..the Transformers and Harry Potter have totally different target Audience..the genre is different
Plus they were sequels with 2 and 7 movies behind them so they already had their established fanbase
Imagine TA and TDKR releasing together..would they have made 1 Billion a piece?
I dont think so
Maybe TA would have made 1 billion but the earnings of TDKR would have taken a major blow..it would end up around 700-750M
Exact same thing has happened with TASM

So TASM's presumed competition, while The Avengers was out 2 months prior its release barely making 700K a day early july, is no excuse at all for not grossing more than 300 million domestically and 775/800 million WW.

If not for TDKR it would have
As I said before,the realistic expectations were 300M domestic and 400M Overseas
So I readily agree that it will fall short in terms of domestic expectations by 40 odd million and overshoot the overseas expectations by 70-75M

That's precisely what I was saying. You're just wasting your time saying the exact same thing that I did. But if the movie was actually interesting and appealing to broad audiences things would have been different. Then again no external factor to blame for the lack of hype other than the movie itself.

Hype in my post meaning anticipation before the movie was released..there was hardly any
And it has all do to with being the 1st movie..nothing else
BB had no hype during its time..both before and after its release..especially overseas

And while TASM's benefits from a decreasing budget compared to Spider-Man 3, TDKR on the other hand has to deal with a significantly higher pb compared to its predecessor that impacts its profit ratio more heavily.

So having a bigger budget is a bad thing??!!!
I am learning new things here

Like I said it should be the other way around.
Though if I use you calculation method (based on SM3 being 35% more expensive than TASM), it's numbers on the first 17 days are actually 51.09% higher than TASM's. Guess who wins ???

Have I ever said that TASM beats SM3?
It was impossible to do so...its like saying the Batman reboot coming on in 2016 or so should beat TDKR or TDK

And saying that a 230M film featuring one of the most popular characters in the comic book history and overall pop culture, rebooting a generally beloved and billion dollar making franchise is an "underdog" makes total sense. Sure.

When comparing it to TDKR and TA.Definitely

It wasn't has hyped as TDKR or The Avengers no one will deny but that doesn't make it an underdog either while NONE of those film were direct competition in its first 17 days.

And it would have crossed 300M if there would have been no TDKR

Here's what a "realistic" expectation is in my books:
This comes from a late june press release from Box Office Analyst

The lowest expectations for TDKR opening weekend were 180..and then higher up at 190 going all the way up to 210 and what did it make??
But as you said,not the right thread..
Sony had its first 6 day expectation at 120M and they upped it later on after seeing the performance in 2 days..speaks for itself
Sony's happy,The fans are happy and we are getting a sequel

Sony did, the exact same guys that were pleased with TASM's domestic numbers. The same guys that lowballed TR's budget in a last minute desperate sting to make the movie's performances look better than they really are. Weird right ???

Link?

 

[Spiderdevil]

Sorry, I mistyped. It wasn't $225 million in TAS-M's first seventeen days, it was $217 million. I must've just gone with the same number who the other poster mentioned.
But, anyways...
Spider-Man : $285,573,668 with a $139 million budget
Spider-Man 2 : $284,637,833 with a $200 million budget
Spider-Man 3 : $282,379,655 with a $258 million budget
All of those are from the 17th days of the film's release and you're saying Sony expected a pretty poor run after three weeks that couldn't even keep up with Raimi's trilogy? I know Arad said they expected low numbers, but to not even match budget after three weeks when Raimi's trilogy easily did and before three weeks even. I'm sorry, but I don't see how it's a good thing for Sony.

Just to put things into prespective(In the first 17 days)
TDK:395M from a 185 million budget
TDKR:354M from a 250 million budget

So TDKR disappointed aswell?

 

[JKKS085]

Wrong..
SM1 and SM2 grossed close to 2 billion together
X-Men grossed 300M from a 75M budget in 2000
And X2 grossed 410M from a 110M budget in 2003

And cbm made a total of 3,7 billion so far this year only wich is an absolute record in both grosses and ticket sales.
Anymore stupid comparision to make ?

Since we are taking into consideration on how much that 70M amount corresponds to the 230M budget
So SM3 had a 31% budget more than TASM and TASM grossed 29% less than SM3

No you reasoning is arithmetically flawed (how come I'm not surprised).
Let's take unadjusted numbers in both grosses and pb and guess that TASM's theatrical run will end around 740M WW.
You can either say that SM3 while having a production budget 12,17% higher than TASM grossed 20,27% more.
Or that TASM having a production budget 10,85% lower than SM3 grossed 16,85% less.

You HAVE to pick the same bases to calculate the evolution between production budget and reported gross. Not pick one of your choice whenever it's more convinient. You did the profits ratios yourself so you should have realized already that your numbers don't make sense. And if you don't understand what I'm talking about I highly suggest you to take some individual lessons in maths as soon as you can.

No because we are comparing it to the last movie released

No you were comparing TDKR to TDK while it wasn't the subject at all as pathetic means of distracting from TASM's number.
TDK is the most successfull flick of the Batman franchise in 10 years an unprecedented phenomenon (wich didn't have to deal with a massive shooting occuring at one of its early showings) while SM3 isn't so if you want to make a fair comparision compare TASM grosses to the most successful movie of its franchise as well. Or it's comparing apple and oranges wich is one of your bad habits.

Yeah,my mistake

That makes for a lot of convenient mistakes lately.

No TASM is a reboot..your point would have made sense if this was SM4
By your logic BB had what...4 movies before it?

No that was actually your logic.
The only thing I was saying is that a busy schedule with high profile movies from popular franchises coming in a two weeks time frame doesn't prevent any of these to gross over a billion dollars.

Because unlike TA,TASM and TDKR..the Transformers and Harry Potter have totally different target Audience..the genre is different

Target audiences while not entirely the same are actually pretty close.
Just like The Avengers, TASM and TDKR wich appeal to different quadrants in details but have overall a similar target audience.

Plus they were sequels with 2 and 7 movies behind them so they already had their established fanbase

Just like the Spider-Man franchise.

If not for TDKR it would have
As I said before,the realistic expectations were 300M domestic and 400M Overseas. So I readily agree that it will fall short in terms of domestic expectations by 40 odd million and overshoot the overseas expectations by 70-75M

No it wouldn't have, the film was displaying low legs early on its run.
And as I've SHOWED, not said, showed, realistic projections from trusted business analyst were 375M domestically. That's falling "short" from domestic expectation by 110 million at the very least.
The 300M number comes from BoM's (Ray Subers) forecast and was considered fairly low/conservative by the time the article was released (early may). And yet TASM won't reach that 300M mark wich is unprecedented in the franchise.

Hype in my post meaning anticipation before the movie was released..there was hardly any
And it has all do to with being the 1st movie..nothing else
BB had no hype during its time..both before and after its release..especially overseas

You're acting like Sony was forced to do a reboot, to retell an origin story it was nothing but their choice.
And if the reboot/rehashing of the origins is the reason why the movie had very low to no hype, then that's another internal factor consequence of their questionable choices.

So having a bigger budget is a bad thing??!!!
I am learning new things here

When it comes to profit ratios it is. That's simple arithmetic calculation.

Have I ever said that TASM beats SM3?

You actually did, just there:

And the budget is also 35% more
So TASM wins

but have I ??? The thing I've said is that considering ticket price inflation and the benefit of 3D as well as new growing markets overseas it should have come closer to SM3's unadjusted worldwide totals.

When comparing it to TDKR and TA.Definitely

The fact that it was tracking lower than those two doesn't make it an underdog. It was still one of the higher profil movies of this summer.

And it would have crossed 300M if there would have been no TDKR

It's early numbers say otherwise.

Sony had its first 6 day expectation at 120M and they upped it later on after seeing the performance in 2 days..speaks for itself

And business analysts had their late estimate at 150 millions for the first 6 days.

Link?

THR reported early february a 200M PB confirmed by producers and distributors that Sony never denied, before the movie starts to track so low. Then they came mid-july with the 125M estimate that made every person in the business laugh. I won't bother to browse through THR's website now but you can do the research yourself if you want to.

 

[Anno_Domini]

No,way before that
In Around 12 days I think

Switch the numbers around and you'll have the right day

Tell me who didnt assume?
Is it too much to assume for a movie to cross 700M when the sequel made 900M?

Everyone on these boards said NOTHING about Ice Age 4 topping TAS-M.

Because I dont believe that TASM exists because of BB like you keep saying

And you're the only one who doesn't believe that.

They are less awful than......Well you know

Than all of your replies? Yah, I know.

I have been posting facts all along that this is the 2nd best reboot if not the best yet
All you have been saying is 'It SHOULD have done better'

You have yet to actually say that until now.

They didnt give a rat ass about trend
There were 2 options to be different from the '02 movie...Either go the IC way and show the origin in a brief montage and concentrate on the main villian OR make the origin a major part of the movie
They went with the second option

This has nothing to do with using the police.

It was replacing Jameson.Fact

For some negative aspect, but not to slander Spidey as Jameson does. Fact.

You still havent disproved me..I think you can do better than posting simileys

I don't need to disprove you when you have nothing better to say without copying the exact words that I used.

Nuclear Fusion is Nuclear Fusion

If you want to be wrong, keep thinking that. I have told you the reasons why they're different, but you just seem ******** now.

And thats important because?

Well...what have we been talking about? What reboot inspired what reboot?

Yes it did it in some 12-15 days

Again...someone is wrong.

And you probably didnt have this kind of belief with TDK?
As I said,you biasness is out of the world

Because TAS-M was simply not a great film or a great reboot to start a new franchise. Many things brought the film down in my eyes. Not biased. If I was biased, I would be against all Marvel films or against the director as you seem to be with Nolan.

Unlike Batman Begins..this movie also made money outside North America

But that link specifies domestic numbers and it proved you wrong that TAS-M didn't make up its budget in 12 or 15 days

He was even friendzoned..no wonder he cried
The guy who left your father for dead..Sleep with him
The guy who gave everything for you..Goodbye my friend
Why?Because **** logic that why

And yet Bane's better than all of the villains Raimi used.

And yet you saw it twice

How lovely you remember how many times I saw it

I saw it a second time to see if I'd like it more, but I didn't. Hey, at least it was better than Spider-Man 3.

TDKR was supposedly 4 hours long,and its final cut is 2:45
So I guess WB intervened and chopped the movie
What a dummy Nolan is

You believe the four hour cut? Haha.

Keep telling yourself that

Keep telling myself that you should be ashamed for making such an awful comparison? Oh, I will. Comparing Nolan to Arad? Just awful.

Its just a collection of reviews..so here you are disagreeing with 250 odd reviewers

Yep

Very Very bad logic
Movies like Iron Man werent hyped either and neither was Batman Begins
Hype has something to do with the fanbase and the previous movies released..the advantage that a first movie does not have

Are you kidding me? Iron Man and Batman Begins WERE hyped. You're delusional if you seriously think they weren't.

Madagascer>BB

Madagascer wasn't a movie. Madagascar was.

Still way lower than TDK

Hey, that's fine as they're in the same trilogy. That's to say Empire Strikes Back is better than Return of the Jedi; it's all good as they're still part of a memorable trilogy

Just to put things into prespective(In the first 17 days)
TDK:395M from a 185 million budget
TDKR:354M from a 250 million budget

So TDKR disappointed aswell?

Did they make their budget and in quicker fashion then 17 days? Yes. So was it a disappointment? Nope.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

This is just becoming petty now...

Spider-Devil: Spider-man Fan

vs.

Anno_Domini: Batman Fan

Basic argument: My hero is better than your hero. My fav hero could kick your fav heroes butt.


At this stage you may as well agree to disagree. Cause neither of you are winning.

 

[I Am The Knight]

This is just becoming petty now...

Spider-Devil: Spider-man Fan

vs.

Anno_Domini: Batman Fan

Basic argument: My hero is better than your hero. My fav hero could kick your fav heroes butt.


At this stage you may as well agree to disagree. Cause neither of you are winning.

YAWN. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Anno Vs Spiderdevil...Whoever wins, we lose.

 

[AF3619]

This is just becoming petty now...

Spider-Devil: Spider-man Fan

vs.

Anno_Domini: Batman Fan

Basic argument: My hero is better than your hero. My fav hero could kick your fav heroes butt.


At this stage you may as well agree to disagree. Cause neither of you are winning.

true words are spoken in this post

 

[AF3619]

YAWN. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Anno Vs Spiderdevil...Whoever wins, we lose.

Just like Alien vs Predator?

 

[Anno_Domini]

This is just becoming petty now...

Spider-Devil: Spider-man Fan

vs.

Anno_Domini: Batman Fan

Basic argument: My hero is better than your hero. My fav hero could kick your fav heroes butt.


At this stage you may as well agree to disagree. Cause neither of you are winning.

No, no, not really. I can assure you that I have praised TAS-M for its foreign numbers.

 

[AF3619]

No, no, not really. I can assure you that I have praised TAS-M for its foreign numbers.

t:

 

[I Am The Knight]

Just like Alien vs Predator?

Yes! Something tells me that

Spoiler

Spiderdevil is the Predator.

 

[Spiderdevil]

And cbm made a total of 3,7 billion so far this year only wich is an absolute record in both grosses and ticket sales.
Anymore stupid comparision to make ?

So did CBM's before 2005

No you reasoning is arithmetically flawed (how come I'm not surprised).
Let's take unadjusted numbers in both grosses and pb and guess that TASM's theatrical run will end around 740M WW.
You can either say that SM3 while having a production budget 12,17% higher than TASM grossed 20,27% more.
Or that TASM having a production budget 10,85% lower than SM3 grossed 16,85% less.

You HAVE to pick the same bases to calculate the evolution between production budget and reported gross. Not pick one of your choice whenever it's more convinient. You did the profits ratios yourself so you should have realized already that your numbers don't make sense. And if you don't understand what I'm talking about I highly suggest you to take some individual lessons in maths as soon as you can.

Lets take SM3 as a template(Both Budget and earning wise)(Using adjusted numbers)
(TASM-230,740
SM3-300.7,1037)
Budget wise SM3 had a 23.5% advantage over TASM
Earning wise TASM is 28.6% behind SM3
I can totally live with that

TDK is the most successfull flick of the Batman franchise in 10 years an unprecedented phenomenon (wich didn't have to deal with a massive shooting occuring at one of its early showings)

I can very well ignore that factor saying external factors dont matter,which you have been doing with TASM

while SM3 isn't so if you want to make a fair comparision compare TASM grosses to the most successful movie of its franchise as well. Or it's comparing apple and oranges wich is one of your bad habits.

I am comparing it to the last movie released..SM1 released all the way back in 2002
Okay we'll go that way..Lets compare them to the most succesfull movie of the Franchise
SM1 made 5.90 times its budget
TASM will make 3.21 times its budget(Assuming 740M WW)

Batman(1989) made 11.75 times its budget
TDKR will make 4.40 times its budget(Assuming 1.1B WW)

That makes for a lot of convenient mistakes lately.

Sue me

Target audiences while not entirely the same are actually pretty close.
Just like The Avengers, TASM and TDKR wich appeal to different quadrants in details but have overall a similar target audience.

Harry Potter and Tranformers are COMPLETELY different genre and have different target audience
Will all 3 of TASM,TA and TDKR appeal to the same audience,the superhero loving once
And what do you think about my TDKR and TA comparison
Would they gross 1 billion a piece had they released in close proximity?
As I said TDKR would end up at 700-750M and TA would have about 1.2B
Same thing which has happened with TASM and TDKR

Just like the Spider-Man franchise

So you agree even Batman had his established fanbase in 2005 and 4 movies behind him?

Sob story starts is 1....2....3..

No it wouldn't have, the film was displaying low legs early on its run.
And as I've SHOWED, not said, showed, realistic projections from trusted business analyst were 375M domestically. That's falling "short" from domestic expectation by 110 million at the very least.
The 300M number comes from BoM's (Ray Subers) forecast and was considered fairly low/conservative by the time the article was released (early may). And yet TASM won't reach that 300M mark wich is unprecedented in the franchise.

Similarly weekend number for TDKR was projected at 210M(Highest)..and what did it get??
So is it a disappointment aswell?
And can you please give me some overseas predictions for TASM?
And If 137 instead of 150 is considered a huge disappointment what is 160M compared to 210M??

You're acting like Sony was forced to do a reboot, to retell an origin story it was nothing but their choice.
And if the reboot/rehashing of the origins is the reason why the movie had very low to no hype, then that's another internal factor consequence of their questionable choices.

Did they have a choice??

When it comes to profit ratios it is. That's simple arithmetic calculation.

You are making it seem like having a bigger budget is a bad thing which is certainly not the case

You actually did, just there:

You misunderstood me

but have I ??? The thing I've said is that considering ticket price inflation and the benefit of 3D as well as new growing markets overseas it should have come closer to SM3's unadjusted worldwide totals.

Again you bring in 3D
*Sigh*

The fact that it was tracking lower than those two doesn't make it an underdog. It was still one of the higher profil movies of this summer.

Compared to them..it was an underdog
No two ways about it

And business analysts had their late estimate at 150 millions for the first 6 days.

Average weekend estimate of TDKR gross was 200M and it made 160M
And no I am not going to believe that the shooting caused them to lose 40M,15M at the very most

THR reported early february a 200M PB confirmed by producers and distributors that Sony never denied, before the movie starts to track so low. Then they came mid-july with the 125M estimate that made every person in the business laugh. I won't bother to browse through THR's website now but you can do the research yourself if you want to.

No I want the link where sony said they are happy with TR's overseas figure?

 

[AF3619]

Spoiler

as i see it this not a Box Office talk anymore ,is the same disscusion all over again

 

[Spiderdevil]

Everyone on these boards said NOTHING about Ice Age 4 topping TAS-M.

And I guess the board represents the whole of the movie going population

And you're the only one who doesn't believe that.

And you are the only one who nitpicks about cuts on back,investigations and lab coats

You have yet to actually say that until now.

Just look at the my previous posts
I have been saying this since enternity
2nd best after Casino Royale profit wise(Just talking the final numbers into consideration,TASM probably beat it)

This has nothing to do with using the police.

I was talking about them concentrating on the man behind the mask and the origin in general

For some negative aspect, but not to slander Spidey as Jameson does. Fact.

Purpose of the role was the same.Fact

I don't need to disprove you when you have nothing better to say without copying the exact words that I used.

Atleast better than posting smileys

If you want to be wrong, keep thinking that. I have told you the reasons why they're different, but you just seem ******** now.

And I have been doing the same with the Genali machine comparison and all you have been saying is 'Gas is Gas'

Because TAS-M was simply not a great film or a great reboot to start a new franchise.

Again,Stop saying your opinion like its a fact
I have the same opinion about Batman Begins

If I was biased, I would be against all Marvel films or against the director as you seem to be with Nolan.

No,Memento and Inception are among my all time favourites.And TDK is my favourite CBM

But that link specifies domestic numbers and it proved you wrong that TAS-M didn't make up its budget in 12 or 15 days

World Wide man

And yet Bane's better than all of the villains Raimi used.

Hahahahahahah nice one
Yeah better than Sandman maybe
On second though,not even better than sandman

How lovely you remember how many times I saw it
I saw it a second time to see if I'd like it more, but I didn't. Hey, at least it was better than Spider-Man 3.

So you see a movie twice and say it was un-needed not good enough and a terrible start to the franchise?

You believe the four hour cut? Haha.

Whatever the case..everyone movie has a fair bit cut of to reduce run time and improve pacing

Keep telling myself that you should be ashamed for making such an awful comparison? Oh, I will. Comparing Nolan to Arad? Just awful.

Even if the comparison is not fair,doesnt change the fact that Snyder will be a dummy

Are you kidding me? Iron Man and Batman Begins WERE hyped. You're delusional if you seriously think they weren't.

And TASM was hyped more than them..but even that hype looked minuscle compared to the hype TA and TDKR carried
The comic book movie released in 2005 were Elecktra and Fantastic 4 just for comparison sake

Madagascer wasn't a movie. Madagascar was.

So start correcting spelling mistakes when you have lost the argument on that point.Typical
English is not my mother language.Sue me
Madagascar>BB

Hey, that's fine as they're in the same trilogy. That's to say Empire Strikes Back is better than Return of the Jedi; it's all good as they're still part of a memorable trilogy

Point

Did they make their budget and in quicker fashion then 17 days? Yes. So was it a disappointment? Nope.

Compared to TDK it definitely was
When you increase the budget by 65M you dont expect to fall behind by 41M

 

[Spiderdevil]

No, no, not really. I can assure you that I have praised TAS-M for its foreign numbers.

'It was supposed to make that much' is not exactly praise

 

[Spiderdevil]

Yes! Something tells me that

Spoiler

Spiderdevil is the Predator.

Is that good or bad?
Havent watched Aliens vs Predator

 

[Arach Knight]

Is it possible for Spiderdevil and Anno to take this conversation to PM? It has been dragged through multiple pages and a new thread. It is old and unproductive. Albert Einstein said it best when he stated, "insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." right now, you two must be insane. Please spare the rest of us and bicker in private.

As for the thread topic, I noticed that the film has really been languishing at the $255 million mark for the past week. With a reduction in show times and available screens, hitting $300 million would be a remarkable turn around. At this point, I'm going to say that the film will top out at $260 million over the next two weeks, which should by that time bring the overall box office to $700 million, which isn't a bad finish for a reboot.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Is it pissinle for Spiderdevil and Ann to take this conversation to PM? It has been dragged through multiple pages and a new thread. It is old an unproductive. Albert Einstein said it best when he stated, "insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." right now, yountwo must be insane. Please spare the rest of us and bicker in private.

As for the thread topic, I noticednthat the film has really been languishing at the $255 million mark for the past week. With a reduction in show times and available screens, hitting $300 million would be a remarkable turn around. At this point, I'm going tomsaynthat the film will top out at $260 million over the next two weeks, which should by thst time,mbring the overall box office to $700 million, which isn't a bad finish for a reboot.

I think you are right
I think the movie will end up making around 740M WW and its good enough
Others may think it is a disappointment.Its all about opinions

Lets forget the debate Anno

 

[Spiderdevil]

260M Domestic and 460M Overseas is my prediction
Afterwards 40M from China

 

[Anno_Domini]

Okay guys, hope this makes all of you happy, hahahaha

Spoiler

And I guess the board represents the whole of the movie going population

I'm only speaking of the forums. No one said how Ice Age 4 was going to top TAS-M in the film's second weekend.

And you are the only one who nitpicks about cuts on back,investigations and lab coats

It's obvious that you would bring that up just so you can sidetrack the reason why you won't admit that TAS-M was inspired by BB.

Just look at the my previous posts
I have been saying this since enternity
2nd best after Casino Royale profit wise(Just talking the final numbers into consideration,TASM probably beat it)

It has beaten Casino Royale's foreign numbers by $11 million and under Star Trek by $2 million for domestic.

I was talking about them concentrating on the man behind the mask and the origin in general

Then you agree the police was used because it was inspired by what Nolan did?

Purpose of the role was the same.Fact

Show me anything that states Captain Stacy was used to fill a role similar to Jameson then. If it's fact, there shouldn't be any reason you won't be able to show me proof of this idea.

Atleast better than posting smileys

Posting smileys is the only way I can deal with your awful replies.

And I have been doing the same with the Genali machine comparison and all you have been saying is 'Gas is Gas'

The outcome is the same of both reboot films.

Again,Stop saying your opinion like its a fact
I have the same opinion about Batman Begins

Didn't know I'd have to say 'imo' all the time or that you'd get confused if I don't use 'imo'.

No,Memento and Inception are among my all time favourites.And TDK is my favourite CBM

So just biased over TDKR for some reason?

World Wide man

And we're not talking about the WW numbers. I am talking about domestic and proved you wrong that TAS-M didn't make up its budget domestically in 12 or 15 days.

Hahahahahahah nice one
Yeah better than Sandman maybe
On second though,not even better than sandman

Talk about how ****ed my rating system is

So you see a movie twice and say it was un-needed not good enough and a terrible start to the franchise?

I saw it one more time than I did with Spider-Man 3, "er my god"

Had to see if I felt different, and I didn't.

Whatever the case..everyone movie has a fair bit cut of to reduce run time and improve pacing

So then you decided to make a point by bringing up the bogus four hour cut?

Even if the comparison is not fair,doesnt change the fact that Snyder will be a dummy

Keep thinking that. Warner Brothers let Snyder do anything he could for Watchmen...you think that's being a dummy? You think Nolan is going to walk all over Snyder? Get real.

And TASM was hyped more than them..but even that hype looked minuscle compared to the hype TA and TDKR carried
The comic book movie released in 2005 were Elecktra and Fantastic 4 just for comparison sake

And that hype was wanting to call the film the most anticipated film of the year which was awful marketing.

Compared to TDK it definitely was
When you increase the budget by 65M you dont expect to fall behind by 41M

I don't see how that should even be accountable. TDKR STILL made up its budget.

Even if TDK made up its budget in four days, TDKR still did extremely well by making up its budget within eight days. That's still a huge deal for Warner Brothers and no one would call it disappointing.

'It was supposed to make that much' is not exactly praise

I said that to you, but I've also said it was an accomplishment that TAS-M made huge numbers in that market. It's doing a much better job than in domestic and that's still acknowledgment.