The Amazing Spider-Man: The Game - Part 1

[Spider-Aziz]

And, how is fighting a robot any more of a pain than some thug or B-level super villain?

Robots take too many hits, and no snappy one liners between the hero and the thing he kicks

 

[Havok83]

I was dissapointed when I saw the robots. Ive always found them to be boring enemies to fight. They have no personality, bland and uninspiring design

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Anyone thinking it might be a bit entertaining to see him go through robots removing their power packs before it gets dull?

 

[Eggyman]

Nope. It's a soulless activity. I'm finding it hard to believe there's only robots in the game, and I'm sure the developers know how cliche the whole robot things is... So why base your advertising around them? My mind: boggled.

 

[cherokeesam]

Nope. It's a soulless activity. I'm finding it hard to believe there's only robots in the game, and I'm sure the developers know how cliche the whole robot things is... So why base your advertising around them? My mind: boggled.

Exactly.

I seriously doubt robots will be the *only* baddies (god, I hope not), but when you make them the centerpiece of your initial promo campaign, it smells like rotten diapers. They should've at least thrown us *glimpses* of other bad guys Spidey will be fighting. Big-name bad guys.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

What is boggling my mind is everyone's reaction to a single robot fight. I made a post about this before, saying how robots are overused in games, but to be making it a supposed 'dealbreaker' is just ludicrous fanboy preciousness.

How do robot enemies have any less personality than the overused cannon fodder mercs and thugs? They're just as soulless to beat up, empty virtual meat husks for you to pound 50 hit combos into.

How about this spin on that video... This looks to potentially be the largest scale boss fight in a free roam Spidey game. That has me interested. I couldn't care less what i'm punching in a Spidey game because that isn't the point. It's about how fun it is to DO the punching, and the swinging and the wall crawling. If the robots fit within the context of a good story, I'm fine. If the fighting system and the movement system is fun and rewarding, again I'm fine.

It's the narrowminded person that will write something off like this that boggles my mind. It's that kind of thinking that has LET Activision get away with mundane, tedious crap for years. Because no matter how awful a game is, people will buy it if their favourite characters are involved. It's that level of thinking that put Wolverine on the cover of WoS. That level of thinking that have led to Venom and symbiotes being overused.

I'm going to take the bizarrely logical route here of not damning a game that I still know very, very little details about.

Also, a video does not constitute a promo campaign.

 

[Eggyman]

So you like robots and other people don't. I can live with that.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I didn't say I 'like' robots, I simply said I have less superficial criteria for what makes a game good. I'd prefer human enemies but like I said, if it fits into the story and scope of the game, then it works. This video in no way whatsoever rules out human enemies.

And how are robots the selling point for this game?

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/10/the-amazing-spider-man-trailer-is-all-gameplay/

Back with the original video, it seems clear to me that free roam NY Spider-Man is the selling point of the game. What I'm more interested in is finding out more about this new acrobatic gameplay design they've developed. Of course, I'm sure an interesting new gameplay design that sounds very much like something that's been long wished for in these boards is less controversial than a giant robot as a boss.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

What is boggling my mind is everyone's reaction to a single robot fight. I made a post about this before, saying how robots are overused in MOVIE games, but to be making it a supposed 'dealbreaker' is just ludicrous fanboy preciousness.

At least you specified those

How do robot enemies have any less personality than the overused cannon fodder mercs and thugs? They're just as soulless to beat up, empty virtual meat husks for you to pound 50 hit combos into.

Somehow I'm getting the impression we'll get a glimpse of the Living Brain, that would be awesome

Whoops, time to update my list

How about this spin on that video... This looks to potentially be the largest scale boss fight in a free roam Spidey game.

Seems the largest in any game, possibly larger than SD Mysterio

That has me interested. I couldn't care less what i'm punching in a Spidey game because that isn't the point. It's about how fun it is to DO the punching, and the swinging and the wall crawling.

So you don't want to fight Venomzilla again and repeat the same move 12++ times? Get out of town

If the robots fit within the context of a good story, I'm fine. If the fighting system and the movement system is fun and rewarding, again I'm fine.

Good thinking

It's the narrowminded person that will write something off like this that boggles my mind. It's that kind of thinking that has LET Activision get away with mundane, tedious crap for years. Because no matter how awful a game is, people will buy it if their favourite characters are involved. It's that level of thinking that put Wolverine on the cover of WoS. That level of thinking that have led to Venom and symbiotes being overused.

Just what taught me to be bored of symbiotes

I'm going to take the bizarrely logical route here of not damning a game that I still know very, very little details about.

You may enjoy it for a while then categorize it as subpar, wanna bet on that?

 

[Eggyman]

I can agree that free roam is very welcome, and acrobat Spider -- yes please. I'm bored by robots. Simple as. I'm only going by what they've shown me.

 

[Nathan]

Just watched the Trailer. Massive meh. Oscorp creates a giant robot army that runs loose in the city. So awesome...

 

[Benstamania]

Robotastic... But I dug it. Free roam Spidey is all I care about. Just make sure it ain't crap. Hopefully this means I don't have to get any stupid red balloons...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Balloons is something minor and easily ignored, why the fuss?

 

[Jick]

I can agree that free roam is very welcome, and acrobat Spider -- yes please. I'm bored by robots. Simple as. I'm only going by what they've shown me.

Exactly. Just like that.


Get this: in my opinion, the trailer SUCKED! Like I said before, for a game that is supposedly finished and is only going through testing to fix bugs and this kind of things, they should have blown us away last night cause they certainly have a lot of stuff. If they do, why they didn't show that? Why didn't they show what they truly have? Why only robots? Of course it will lead some to get worried about seeing too many robots in a Spidey game and lack of good villains, which is the case of Edge of Time, so it can happen again.

This is marketing, it's business, you have to sell your product. You have make us buy it, even if the final product is different. This is how you advertize a game:
[YT]7F8YHjiBwCc&[/YT]
Or this:
[YT]jbxt4hw43oU[/YT]
Or this:
[YT]q10u2SIQ4pw[/YT]

You show gameplay, or big setpieces, villains, a good threatening force...
Not dull boring lifeless robots in a Spider-Man game. People have reason to be disappointed. We didn't even get to see Spidey fighting to see how the combat mechaninc works, this time.

I'm not saying the game is going to suck. I never said that, just that the trailer has let me down and I'm completely uninterested because they caused that with the last trailer.

The first teaser was good because it showed Spidey moving around, swinging in a open city. Total freedom. Smooth moves. That was the intention. To show that the free roam was back. The robot in the end had me worried, but I thought they just wanted to end the trailer with something big. Then we had the official pic of Spidey facing the robot, because that's what we had seen so far and they didn't want to spoil more.

But then, when it's time to impress us with the real deal, they show us a factory of robots. More and more and more robots. I'm fine with facing the true Spider-Slayers, but when they show me a trailer like this, they make it seem like the robots are the big deal of the game.

I'm still giving the benefit of doubt. I'm still waiting for more news, trailers and announcements, but for now, they lost me.

 

[Benstamania]

Balloons is something minor and easily ignored, why the fuss?

Because it was said every 10 seconds? lol.

 

[Jericho]

The first teaser was good because it showed Spidey moving around, swinging in a open city. Total freedom. Smooth moves. That was the intention. To show that the free roam was back. The robot in the end had me worried, but I thought they just wanted to end the trailer with something big. Then we had the official pic of Spidey facing the robot, because that's what we had seen so far and they didn't want to spoil more.

But then, when it's time to impress us with the real deal, they show us a factory of robots. More and more and more robots. I'm fine with facing the true Spider-Slayers, but when they show me a trailer like this, they make it seem like the robots are the big deal of the game.

I'm still giving the benefit of doubt. I'm still waiting for more news, trailers and announcements, but for now, they lost me.

I completely agree. When the trailer was over, my first reaction was "WTF??! That's it??" I didn't get any sense of the game. Barely any actual gameplay was shown and absolutely no scope of the game was demonstrated.

If they wanted to "wow" us, they needed to focus on the free roam. They needed to show "a day in the life of Spidey" using actual game-play, not CGI cut-scenes. Rockstar handles GTA trailers perfectly and that is exactly how TAS should have been handled. Not doing it that way only registers concern that there isn't much in this iteration of open world Spidey games.

There were 4 seconds of excitement in this new trailer... the very beginning of the trailer showing footage of the city. It was all downhill after that.

It might still turn out to be a great game, but they aren't demonstrating it for now.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

they should have blown us away last night

If you went into it with that expectation then you're a fool to yourself.

Let's not forget this is Activision. They don't NEED to 'wow' us or go the extra yard, they know perfectly well that the Spider-Man brand sells itself. Yes, sure it'd be nice have a trailer of the same quality as the Dead Island trailer or the Arkham City trailer, but since we've all come to expect that we're not going to get a game of that quality while Spidey is with Activision, why on earth would you expect the same level of quality for a trailer?

Activision will promote this game the same way they all the others... With over saturation of ads. They might be crap but they will be everywhere. They focus solely on online marketing and overblown 'reveals' like exclusive skins and bla bla bla.

I mean come on, this is SPIDER-MAN and it's tied in with a massive blockbuster movie. Why would we expect Activision to go to any effort to sell this thing at all?

It's the same as every other Spidey game, we just cross our fingers, hold our breath and hope it doesn't suck again. The only thing that sets this game apart is that it's a return to free roam.

I mean seriously, saying that the trailer should have been like a Rockstar trailer? Sheesh.

 

[Jericho]

I mean seriously, saying that the trailer should have been like a Rockstar trailer? Sheesh.

Yes, seriously Wolvieboy:

http://youtu.be/oP3DYdMg-fw

Let's see.. who authored that trailer... GASP! Activision!

It really helps to back your opinions with facts.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Really? It does? So by your logic for instance, when I posted the first gameplay trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man about halfway up this page (post #108), in which we see a gameplay video and trailer in exactly the same format as the one you just posted, your opinion that the Spider trailer NEEDS to be like that is in fact flawed?

Seems that facts can be very elusive.

 

[Superhero 101]

This trailer really reminds me of the Superman Returns Trailer with Metallo

 

[Jericho]

Really? It does? So by your logic for instance, when I posted the first gameplay trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man about halfway up this page (post #108), in which we see a gameplay video and trailer in exactly the same format as the one you just posted, your opinion that the Spider trailer NEEDS to be like that is in fact flawed?

Seems that facts can be very elusive.

No, that teaser trailer that was posted a while back is definitely better than what premiered last night, but it is too brief. I think a lot of us expected to see a fleshed out version of that first trailer, especially since that first one is only available via video recording of the screen it was shown on. That side of the game has not been officialy presented to the public as of yet.

 

[Jick]

If you went into it with that expectation then you're a fool to yourself.

Let's not forget this is Activision. They don't NEED to 'wow' us or go the extra yard, they know perfectly well that the Spider-Man brand sells itself. Yes, sure it'd be nice have a trailer of the same quality as the Dead Island trailer or the Arkham City trailer, but since we've all come to expect that we're not going to get a game of that quality while Spidey is with Activision, why on earth would you expect the same level of quality for a trailer?

Because they have quality trailers. They've always done this in the past, even if the final product isn't of the same quality. Actually, I'd say the trailers for SM3 and WOS are better than the games.

I mean come on, this is SPIDER-MAN and it's tied in with a massive blockbuster movie. Why would we expect Activision to go to any effort to sell this thing at all?

Because being SPIDER-MAN doesn't mean squat, anymore. Not in games.
Take a look at the fiasco that is the sales for Edge of Time.
Spidey isn't even the main attraction in covers for crossovers anymore like he is for comics, for example. He is doing poorly in videogames and, as the big company that they are, they better start going the extra mile with Spidey..

I mean seriously, saying that the trailer should have been like a Rockstar trailer? Sheesh.

Damn right it should. Previous games had more interesting trailers than this.
And, after the poor sales from Edge of Time, you'd think they'd want to do the right thing. I'm not fooling myself, they are fooling me. Not gonna happen again so soon.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Because being SPIDER-MAN doesn't mean squat, anymore. Not in games.
Take a look at the fiasco that is the sales for Edge of Time.
Spidey isn't even the main attraction in covers for crossovers anymore like he is for comics, for example. He is doing poorly in videogames and, as the big company that they are, they better start going the extra mile with Spidey..

You are completely failing to assess this with any objectivity at all. You're looking at this from a fans perspective. Activision still makes plenty of cash from the Spider-Man franchise. The quality has gone down in the games, sure, but why? Because they are given a spidey game a year release schedules because they MAKE MORE MONEY. To them it's a brand.

You are the one who is fooling yourself if you expect any different. What has changed between this game and the last few? Did Activision suddenly decide they care about quality?

Let's be realistic. Wishing the games were better or saying 'Activision needs to do this' is just completely redundant. This is the way it's going to be until either they lose the rights to Spidey or there is a major shake up within Activision. But for now, it's just wasted energy and pointless repetition. We go through this with every new spidey game, and since it's once a year, it's pretty bloody exhausting.

 

[Jick]

You are completely failing to assess this with any objectivity at all. You're looking at this from a fans perspective. Activision still makes plenty of cash from the Spider-Man franchise. The quality has gone down in the games, sure, but why? Because they are given a spidey game a year release schedules because they MAKE MORE MONEY. To them it's a brand.

You are the one who is fooling yourself if you expect any different. What has changed between this game and the last few? Did Activision suddenly decide they care about quality?

Let's be realistic. Wishing the games were better or saying 'Activision needs to do this' is just completely redundant. This is the way it's going to be until either they lose the rights to Spidey or there is a major shake up within Activision. But for now, it's just wasted energy and pointless repetition. We go through this with every new spidey game, and since it's once a year, it's pretty bloody exhausting.

Did you see how much they earned back with their last game? They barely sold 200.000 copies in this entire time. Some games do much more than that in a day. It's hard to think that the Spider-Man games would sustain this company if it wasn't for COD making them half billion dollars every year. This is inexpressive.

I'm not just talking out of nowhere or ''with any objectivity at all'':
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/50742/spider-man-edge-of-time/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/50741/spider-man-edge-of-time/
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/44317/spider-man-shattered-dimensions/

Compare SD to EOT above. They're not MAKING MORE MONEY, they're making less, and less, and it'll be over, like Tony Hawk was, in a matter of time.

You're taking this way too far. I'm complaining on the trailer. Not the final game. They've given us great trailers. At least that they did right in the past. Even the teaser for this one was fun. It's normal to expect the same here. But this one sucked for me. It did nothing for me.

 

[Spider-X]

Wolvieboy...you're kinda being a jerk man.

Jick09 never said he expected the trailer to be Rockstar quality...he said it SHOULD HAVE BEEN. No one is arguing the fact that Activision is and has for several years completely mistreated the Spider-Man franchise with lackluster games and advertising.

What people are saying is that if they want to turn things around and regain sale (which they so preciously covet) they should be doing a better job of appealing to the fan base, which in my, and several other's, opinion they've failed to do with a great opportunity in the VGA's ad slot.

I'm excited for the prospect of a new and quality freeroam spidey game and I demand quality and respect with handling Spider-Man. But, unfortunately, that doesn't mean I expect it to be honored.

I know you've been here for a long time fighting off the unrealistic expectations of many, but your cracks are starting to show with how you're treating people. Just chill a bit, we all want the same thing: a great Spider-man game. It's just unfortunate Activision only seems to care about sales.