Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

[TheVision]

Bill played John Garrett. imo he was PERFECT for the MCU.

 

[Dr. Evil]

if he really was there, how long do you think his cameo is?

Probably as long as Agent Sitwell's Cameo in the first movie.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

No, it's not X-Men; but it *is* Avengers. And this is *exactly* what The Avengers are all about --- recruiting a superteam of Earth's Mightiest Heroes to defend the planet against Earth's Mightiest Enemies.

And how does adding more superheroes make "the core characters less special?" Since when are The Avengers, X-Men, Justice League or anyone else diluted by the number of members on their roster? Numbers make them *stronger,* not *weaker.* You're arguing against the core raison-d'etre of Marvel Studios' MCU in the first place: if you think more superheroes = watered-down superheroes, then why create a shared universe at all? Go back to the Bad Old Days of a million standalone movie universes populated by a single superhero/superteam.



"Half-baked?" Half-baked???

These "half-baked" theories were invented by Stan Lee himself over 50 years ago, not by "Crazy Ol' Sam" in a warehouse basement 10 minutes ago. Sorry you don't read or understand comics, but this is what The Avengers are, and this is what The Avengers do. They're a superteam. And every -- EVERY -- iteration of them in ANY media shows them doing exactly what we're seeing in these set pics: setting up a centralized HQ, formalizing a team, recruiting as many superheroes as they can to that team to fight the enemies that SHIELD and the rest of humanity can't.

It is *beyond* ridiculous to see people on a site called "SUPERHERO Hype" trying to argue against Marvel's foremost super-team becoming *exactly* what they're supposed to be. It's like demanding that Flash not run so fast in his upcoming TV show, or Daredevil not be blind, or asking Marvel to make sure that Iron Fist doesn't feature any kung fu, because god forbid a comic-book movie/TV franchise be built around its core concept.

Seriously, folks....? Seriously?

have you even read what I wrote?

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

Who does Paxton play on AoS? He should show up. Bill Paxton is the ****ing man.

... I'd be shocked if he showed up.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

More like blown away...

 

[Demileto]

More like blown away...

 

[Steyin]

Probably mentioned somewhere, but this is the Sainsbury Centre art museum/gallery by Norman Foster.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Bill played John Garrett. imo he was PERFECT for the MCU.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I need to hit up some of my DJ buddies across the pond and see if they can get some pics

 

[TeeKay]

Hey! I always use that gif.

 

[Ultron-5]

 

[Vartha]

Wish the video on Cinema Blend was on You tube. The copy on you tube stinks and CB's keeps freezing up on me

 

[flickchick85]

The guy who plays Tripp is NOT a very good actor. Hopefully he has no involvement in AOU. (And a recasting for next season would be nice.)

I agree that he's not very good, but I do like the character and Britt has a certain natural likability (even if a lot of his line deliveries irk me) and chemistry with others in the cast, so I wouldn't want a recast. I hate recasts anyway. From the AoS team, I'd rather see someone like Simmons get the big screen cameo, BUT I'll admit it probably makes more sense for Tripp given his grandfather's history with Cap. He should get to meet the guy.

 

[terry78]

Eh, he'll grow into the role.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

More like blown away...

 

[cherokeesam]

I think you're missing the point that others are trying to make. They're not saying anything against team building or the Avengers growing, but that it's more likely that Feige and Co. are reserving introductions of characters with superpowered skillsets either for their own movies or to be featured as major supporting characters in the movies.

No one's disputing that the MCU's main purpose is to grow the universe of superheroes, that much is obvious from the blueprints since IM1 and TIH in 2008. Where we're disagreeing with you is that it's doubtful that the movie will have superpowered heroes simply as background window dressing. They are pretty unique and special in this franchise, and they want to introduce the characters with names, faces, possibly established actors, not random extras.

Given the information we already have, that Stark's privatizing security in the wake of SHIELD's dissolution, I do think the more reasonable explanation here is also the simplest; these are likely former SHIELD agents brought on board by Maria Hill to work at Stark Ind.

I have a feeling that there will be recruiting going on in the movie, possible with Rhodey, almost certainly with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and maybe The Vision though. So you'll see team growth that way. And maybe an introduction for Carol Danvers and an expansion into Wakanda.

The set reports/photos of Falcon and Iron Patriot almost certainly point to the Avengers growing even larger than that in AoU. The impasse between Edgar Wright and Marvel Studios over Ant-Man was most likely over the role of those characters in The Avengers. There've been growing rumors of Ms. Marvel entering the MCU; Dr. Strange may or may not be added to the roster; there's still scuttlebutt about Black Panther. Whether folks like it or not, the Avengers are already growing by leaps and bounds, and the roster I'm describing is in no way, shape or form "half-baked," but perfectly reasonable and canonical in every way to the books.

I disagree that this "Avengers Academy" is simply Stark hiring a bunch of cannon-fodder "normals." The Avengers have no need for a "support staff," and never had any in the comics (beyond Jarvis, of course, who was very human in 616). And why on earth would Stark need to train veteran SHIELD agents in fields that they already know way, *way* more about than he does....?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc. "Avengers Academy" is about recruiting "unregistered gifted" into the Avengers and teaching them to become superheroes.

 

[darkslayer101]

More like blown away...

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

 

[Suzanne78]

The set reports/photos of Falcon and Iron Patriot almost certainly point to the Avengers growing even larger than that in AoU. The impasse between Edgar Wright and Marvel Studios over Ant-Man was most likely over the role of those characters in The Avengers. There've been growing rumors of Ms. Marvel entering the MCU; Dr. Strange may or may not be added to the roster; there's still scuttlebutt about Black Panther. Whether folks like it or not, the Avengers are already growing by leaps and bounds, and the roster I'm describing is in no way, shape or form "half-baked," but perfectly reasonable and canonical in every way to the books.

I disagree that this "Avengers Academy" is simply Stark hiring a bunch of cannon-fodder "normals." The Avengers have no need for a "support staff," and never had any in the comics (beyond Jarvis, of course, who was very human in 616). And why on earth would Stark need to train veteran SHIELD agents in fields that they already know way, *way* more about than he does....?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc. "Avengers Academy" is about recruiting "unregistered gifted" into the Avengers and teaching them to become superheroes.

I'm definitely not disagree with you regarding the Avengers growing and recruiting - that's in part what Phase 3 will likely be about. But with specific, "named" heroes like the ones you mentioned - Quicksilver and Wanda, Rhodey, Sam, possibly Scott Lang and/or Hank, and maybe Jan, T'Challa and Carol. The difference though is that these are distinct, canonical characters played by name actors. They aren't window dressing, they aren't solely in the shot for the background; they are canonical characters who aren't going to be played by some random extras. Not even Feige's that cheap

The idea that the recruits that are going to be passing by in the background are also super powered beings and part of the first round of some MCU version of Avengers Academy is simply spec at this point. Personally I don't see a foundation for this particular spec, I don't see it being likely. For me, it's far more likely that these are Hill's recruits from SHIELD who are now working for Stark. But I will certainly congratulate you if you turn out to be right.

 

[AlexanderLykins]

I'm definitely not disagree with you regarding the Avengers growing and recruiting - that's in part what Phase 3 will likely be about. But with specific, "named" heroes like the ones you mentioned - Quicksilver and Wanda, Rhodey, Sam, possibly Scott Lang and/or Hank, and maybe Jan, T'Challa and Carol. The difference though is that these are distinct, canonical characters played by name actors. They aren't window dressing, they aren't solely in the shot for the background; they are canonical characters who aren't going to be played by some random extras. Not even Feige's that cheap

The idea that the recruits that are going to be passing by in the background are also super powered beings and part of the first round of some MCU version of Avengers Academy is simply spec at this point. Personally I don't see a foundation for this particular spec, I don't see it being likely. For me, it's far more likely that these are Hill's recruits from SHIELD who are now working for Stark. But I will certainly congratulate you if you turn out to be right.

This.

 

[OnTheAir]

I agree that he's not very good, but I do like the character and Britt has a certain natural likability (even if a lot of his line deliveries irk me) and chemistry with others in the cast, so I wouldn't want a recast. I hate recasts anyway. From the AoS team, I'd rather see someone like Simmons get the big screen cameo, BUT I'll admit it probably makes more sense for Tripp given his grandfather's history with Cap. He should get to meet the guy.

This is pretty much how I feel about Britt and his character. And I agree that at some point, it would be nice if Tripp got to meet the man that his grandfather served with. But the only AoS cameo that I am interested in seeing in Age Of Ultron is Coulson.

 

[Son of Coul]

Regarding the Avengers learning that Coulson's death was a lie, specifically - would it even have an impact at this point, considering the events of TWS? Especially if I were Steve, having experienced Fury's deception repeatedly, I know if I saw Coulson show up in the flesh I'd shrug my shoulders and go, "Yeah, I kinda figured."

 

[DarkPhoenix82]

Not 100 % the right thread but interesting for future speculation anyway... Can anyone who has the phase one blu ray set from last year help me out? I can't find a fricking scan of the Hawkeye and Black Widow files that came with the set. The only picture floating around, there's parts of them covered. Can you help a girl out here?

Thing is: I've stumbled over the more or less official MCU timeline on that MCU wiki and they give an unfortunately unsourced year for the moment when Clint found Natasha and recruited her... That years says she was 14 which seems awfully early to me. I always suspected she worked for the KGB longer.

That site also states - again unsourced - she was only 10 or 11 when she joined the KGB, which seems complete guesswork to me. That wiki only references the The Avengers movie as source for both, and that's just plain wrong. No date for anything was given there. So I was wondering if there's any indicator on these S.H.I.E.L.D. files, so one can speculate what kind of stories we might see about this relationship coming up in AOU... The MCU timeline is ****ed up already and who knows how accurate these files still are since they are constantly shifting and changing months and years. But especially given that they contained Natasha's true birth year long before Cap2 came out, it's worth a shot...

 

[starkresilient]

Fyi

avengers: Age of ultron is filming in kent (dover castle, specifically) in the next three days.

 

[DarkPhoenix82]

Sounds cool... Ah yes, found on twitter. RDJ and Samuel L Jackson seen so far.