The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'The Avengers Sequels' started by Lord, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. jaqua99

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    Okay, I said something kind of rude to you, which you don't deserve, because you are one of my favorite posters here. so I appologize and am deleting it. Sorry guys on top of a bit of explosive anger syndrome, Jon gets cranky and rude when he doesn't sleep.
     
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    :doh:
     
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    Okay. I am cranky. So I am sorry. We know thanos' goal is to destroy. I think all everyone's point is, atleast mine, regarding the whole, ruling universe thing, is that, its letting us know he is going to be a universal threat. thats it.

    Maybe I am only speaking for myself. But when I bring up the ruling the universe thing (only to be chewed out by you :p ), my point was that he said the universe will be his (obviously thanos just destroys) but my point is that it is letting us know that he will operate on a universal level, which will OBVIOUSLY be to destroy. thats that. I think the whole ruling thing is irrelevant. When I bring it up, i just think it lets us know that he WILL be a universal threat, and will not be dumbed down in power, and threat.

    Which is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. jaqua99

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    what the hell are we disagreeing on here!? haha. Non of us are doubting he will appear in avengers 2. Its just, we don't think he will be the main threat. Hell, at this point, I am expecting, as is everyone else, for Thanos to appear in ATLEAST Avengers 2 and 3. Thor 2 is also a safe bet.

    Im a bit late, so if any of you want to ignore my explosion of posts here, feel free too,

    I keep forgetting about multiquote, its 4:30am, I wanna multiquote them, and then delete them, so it will all be one post..but i cant figure out how to delete. mods, feel free to merge these. I am sorry.

    quadruple post -_-
     
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  5. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Yes, we *do* agree that Avengers 2 will feature Thanos. And I'm not saying you're wrong that Thanos will go on to be the main threat in TA3; I'm saying there's a couple of possible ways to go here. Your way is one way, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that approach (as long as, again, Thanos warrants at least a cameo in TA2). But I *personally* believe another approach will be the one Feige uses, and that's the "Phase" approach; in which case the Thanos story will be self-contained within the Phase II movies, and they'll move on to a new universal threat in Phase III.

    Either way works fine for me....the only thing I *can't* see happening is Thanos not showing up in another film for the next 5-6 years.
     
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  6. BatsDC

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    In the MCU's continuity it would probably only be between 18 Months and Two Years since the Avengers by the time Avengers 2 rolls around.
     
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    Chances we see GOTG cameo to help spin off that movie?
     
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  8. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    Magic 8-Ball sez: 69.7%
     
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  9. DrCosmic

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    Avengers is the team up movie that's jam packed for time. I don't see them spending already needed for the stars screen time, in a movie that is only successful because other movies build up to it, to spinoff another property.
     
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    The ending sequence got me thinking that civil war might be up next in line, and i don't think it has to follow the comic page per page to be successful, yes more characters are needed but i think it works into the story line as we think it will be Thanos for the final curtain call. Marvel did say the 2nd one will be more about the characters...why not divide them and then have them assemble again for the final fight for Earth in the 3rd one, makes sense to me if they were to go in this direction.
     
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    There will be no Civil War. Whedon is a fan of comics and knows what he likes. He won't be adapting Civil War, because it's ****.

    It was his idea to use Thanos, that's an indication of where the franchise is going.
     
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    i cnt see Kang in the next avengers movie or the third one..after Loki staging an alien invasion im just not seeing where Kang would fit into this..didnt he do pretty much the same thing in the comics..I feel next villian is going be Thanos since he was featured at the end of the first film it just makes logical sense
     
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    Thing is, going along with the time frames we've already seen, that means we wouldn't get Thanos in all of his glory for like 5-6 more years from now. Not so sure I view that as a positive. They better do him better justice in Avengers 2 if that's the case .... not just casually using showing him. He's definitely got to be interactive.
     
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    Kang isn't an alien; he's very much human, and earthling.
    time travel =/= space travel
     
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    Hey all, I haven't posted here since 2008, when we rightly considered the difficulty that Iron Man 2 would have in balancing S.H.I.E.L.D.'s role in a story where Tony would find himself part of a bigger universe. (It's funny, I also proposed a joint Iron Man/Hulk movie back then, which people shot down, but now doesn't seem so crazy.) Now it is 2012, just after The Avengers has come out, the MCU has gotten even bigger, and I want to join in on the speculation!

    "It is a signal to all the realms that the Earth is ready for a higher form of war."
    ~Thor, The Avengers

    "By not trying to. By being smaller. More personal, more painful...
    By being the next thing that should happen to these characters, and
    not just a rehash of what seemed to work the first time. By having a
    theme that is completely fresh and organic to itself."
    ~Joss Whedon, interview with DigitalSpy, March 2012, about how to make Avengers 2 "bigger."

    (Technically, both of these quotes are by Joss Whedon.) Thor's blunt statement (and Cap's disturbed reaction) about the direction Earth was heading gave me chills during that awesome 6-way argument scene in TA. Thoughts of RDJ and co. facing the Infinity Gauntlet, the Kree-Skrull War, Secret Wars, etc. entered my imagination. Then The Other uttered the words "court death" and Thanos appeared in the mid-credits scene, and I was equally stoked.

    But then I remembered Joss Whedon's interview from back in March. "Being smaller" and "more personal" does not seem to mesh with "a higher form of war" or flow in the general direction the MCU is heading with Thanos and Guardians of the Galaxy somewhere down the road. If Joss writes/directs TA2 as we all hope he will, it probably won't follow one of the "bigger" storylines (perhaps TA3 will do so). This leads me to a couple of questions, similar to some that have already been discussed in this thread.

    1) If we assume TA2 goes "smaller" and "more personal," organically taking the logical next step from TA, how can you do so and while still advancing the overarching narrative that ultimately leads to a bigger epic involving someone like Thanos?
    I've seen a few members mention The Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi as a model to follow, but it seems much harder to accomplish for TA2/TA3 given that it's not centered around one character like Luke Skywalker. I trust that Joss will figure it out, I just want to know what you guys think about going "smaller" with an actual team, not centering on one main character. (The X-Men Trilogy comparison helps, except to think about the third one hurts my heart.) I'm not a big comic book reader, so maybe some of you can educate me about some lesser-known Avengers stories that accomplish this well.

    2) What do you think will be sprinkled into IM3, Thor 2, and Cap 2 as they lead to TA2, and do you think they will hint at/lead to a) a "smaller" and "more personal" storyline, or b) "a higher form of war"?
    Phase I led us to "a bigger universe" and ultimately a bigger story in TA by sprinkling SHIELD, the Cosmic Cube, and references/appearances/cameos of other heroes into the first five movies. With the apparent disparity between Thor's and Joss's words in mind, it is interesting to speculate how Phase II will play out as they lead us on the path to TA2.
     
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  16. jaqua99

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    Just remember.. Me and bigthor said it first... With the antman rumors...and the whole....smaller thing...avengers 2..ultron.... It's Guna happen. 2014. Cap 2. Antman. And GotG. Avengers 2. Ultron
     
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  17. Lord

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    Black Panther may be the next new hero in the MCU:
    http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/exclusive-standalone-marvel-movie-cap-takes-place-wakanda/

    But considering what was said he may not be a new Avengers member.
     
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  18. Alexei Belyakov

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    I'm pretty sure he'll end up a part of The Avengers roster by 2015.

    I think what Feige means is that there won't be a SHIELD presence in BP as there was in every MCU film of Phase I.
     
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  20. Lord

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    I would prefer Ant-Man too, but there's still the possibility that it's pushed to 2014 as the 3rd MCU film of that year, or that it's released in 2015
     
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  21. Alexei Belyakov

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    You'll probably still get ANT-MAN IN 2014, but I too preferred GOTG over BP. Not to mention, they just made more sense with Thanos on the horizon.
     
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    Could be. Based on that avengers comic.... It seems like GotG is Gunna happen soon. And I want avengers two to be ultron. With more thanos behind the scene. But that wont happen without antman. So ya...bummed out about this. This aside.. Black panther was the last Stand alone movie I wanted to see
     
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  23. Lord

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    What avengers comic?
     
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  24. jaqua99

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    Wait... Is BP suppose to be in 2013?
     
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  25. R_Hythlodeus

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    Oh. It's BP then? Thst's awesome!
     
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