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Haters of RIM shall be found, flushed out, and cast into the fiery pits of Hades.
Or we'll just ignore them.
Or we'll just ignore them.
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It just cracks me up how defiant some people are in the face of a reliable poster. It's like they get their jollies off trying to be a detractor of someone who's consistently brought us so many scoops. They instantly want to be Debbie Doubter.
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Too, too true. If you want confirmation of this all you have to do is read the comments under the post with the latest official stills on the SHH homepage. There are countless complaints that Evans and Hemsworth don't have their helmets on, and those comments have dozens of recs. One person said that the movie won't be "realistic" if the characters don't wear their masks 100% of the time. As if it would be realistic to see people wearing masks and helmets in the real world (except for bank robbers, of course).
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Personally, I don't like the Thor movie helmet enough to want to see him fight with it on. I can't imagine what it would be like to have to execute the moves he needs to with that thing.
I would however like to see him riding a horse in the sequel with it on or something like that.
I would however like to see him riding a horse in the sequel with it on or something like that.
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Still not has bad as questioning SHH!'s sources and giving him the
in the Spidey threads when he told them there wasn't a new trailer yet.
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I tend to like the movie heroes without masks on because 1) they're drrrrreamy
and 2) I like seeing the actors emote, even while fighting. If Thor has his helmet on for a few moments either riding a horse, or as he's reentering Earth, I'm cool with that. I don't need his helmet to be on all the time. With Cap and Iron Man, it just depends on what the situation calls for. I can see Cap tearing off his mask in the middle of getting his butt kicked.
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Which is awesome... considering these people have seen the entire movie already. It's like they're psychic or something.
*sigh* Oh fans on the internets!!
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Just when I thought this board couldn't get any more interesting, people start flaming RIM!
I mean I knew there would be haters coming here when the new trailer comes out, as they always do, but this?
I mean I knew there would be haters coming here when the new trailer comes out, as they always do, but this?
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Does anyone have the link to that french description of the "supposed" 2nd trailer?
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I think it might have originated from CBM so I can't post a link but here the description.
The trailer begins with Nick Fury addressing the idea that he had to collect powerful beings to face the battles that we could never win. This speech is interspersed with the Fury police, the army and the armed forces, and probably also agents of SHIELD, being destroyed by trying to stop Loki. This first part ends with the Fury saying "Gentlemen, it is now with you."
We then see Captain America in action doing some stunts on top of cars destroyed in a NY, ending in a forest with him throwing the shield toward the screen. Black Widow riding a bike shooting at a vehicle with her bracelet and another shot with her dressed a little more intimate, beating some guys. We also see Thor flying with Mjolnir hitting shots and landing in a forest. Hawkeye launching an arrow that explodes the door of an elevator and he launched another arrow in an elevator which is rising. This second arrow sticks in the lift and drop a rope, safe and Hawkye that goes along with the elevator. Very nice scene. Then we have Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk in the same place since the first trailer and ending with Tony entering the Iron Man armor and a kind of missile chasing a big city.
Then appears on screen logo of Marvel and Paramount. Do not understand why not Disney.
We see all the heroes entering a room, just exchanging looks, and they seem very fond of each other, feeling that is confirmed in the scene where Tony, after making a silly, Cap asks him is everything always just comedy or something like that, and Tony responds something I do not remember now. I loved the scene.
In the room a part of the floor opens and Nick Fury comes and says that our planet has never faced a threat like this, and that these heroes must leave their differences aside and fight together, and that just so we hope. As he speaks we see that Tony Stark dropped to only part of the armor cap and ran toward him, Tony raises his arm in the position that will throw a lightning bolt and the cap puts the shield in front. Then we see Thor fight with Cap and Iron Man in a forest, with Thor directing a punch in the face of the direction of Cap that protects the shell, but the impact of the punch throws Cap few yards away. Finally, we see all the Avengers (I think) on top of a bridge fight with the Hulk. In the scene, one of my favorites on the trailer, we see the Cap kneeling on the floor while the Hulk makes a motion with the leg as it was to smash it and protecting it with the shield. We also see the Hulk holding the leg of the Iron Man and playing too hard on the ground and flying debris from the armor, and ends with a blow simultaneously with the Hulk hitting a punch in the face of it hitting the Thor and Mjolnir in the face of the Hulk , that part in slow motion.
After more than Fury's speech, saying that if the heroes do not cooperate and to "fight together" ... So we see Iron Man lying on the ground, and several future points to his head (I'm sure they are the aliens), the Mjolnir on ground and in the background Thor lying on the floor with his arms raised toward the Mjolnir, Cap and also lying on the ground. The scene of the HF and Cap seem to pass the film's climax, destroyed in NY, but Thor was in an enclosed area, I think even seen the first trailer when the Mjolnir goes to his direction. Fury says back off "together" and we see Thor giving his hand to his cap and taking off the ground and with the Iron Man armor on fire falling toward the ground and the Hulk leaping toward him in a position that would probably grab it. I confess I was slightly thrilling part of this trailer.
Then we have a pretty cool scene. We see some planes and helicopters coming out of nowhere, but then a huge aircraft will appear on the site, and where it is found that the planes and the helicopters are leaving. The scene is pretty cool, because the aircraft, which is actually the Helicarrier, coming out of stealth mode will little by little and little by little we have is the size of this ship, which covers a good part of town. Within it (apparently) see the Fury talking to Loki who is in a jail cell. Loki says that Fury has been taking some desperate measures recently, and then Fury starts quoting some of his crimes as "killing for fun" and says that he forced him to take desperate measures, "I had to form a nice group to stop it. " Then we see Loki coming off and face, and beating each Avenger once in the same location. I think that only the Hulk does not appear in this sequence. The last one showing up is Thor, who is standing face to face Loki in the same place he had fallen earlier in the trailer, saying "I'm not alone, brother," and Loki responds "I do not."
I loved that part, though simple. Thor is my favorite movie of Marvel, because these two characters, and tone that Chris uses in the scene, with a deep sadness and making it clear he still likes of Loki and the second saying his dialogue in an extremely cold (as in interrogation scene involving the Fury) and making it clear that unlike Thor, he no longer nourish no more feeling for his brother, really moved me.
After that "I do not" Loki several vessels hover over the golden city. Some of these aliens are dispatched ships, while they shoot beams and missiles against the city with the population in absolute chaos. The aliens are very similar to each other physically, but some are green, others blue or purple, and some wear a helmet protecting his face. I do not know if they've painted in comics, but were not Kreese nor the Skrulls, that's for sure.
So we have a scene that goes on inside the helmet of Iron Man armor with all those displayers. In one window we see the cap that says "and then continues to find it so funny?" And Stark says "Jarvis, cut the connection."
We see the Helicarrier above the clouds with some alien craft and shooting him Helicarrier fighting back. Soon after we see the Helicarrier cutting the clouds and falling toward the city. Inside we see the aircraft being rattled several agents, including the Fury. The scene gives the size of the aircraft that will make a beautiful fall damage.
Once we have the last sequence of the trailer, packed with action. I remember riding the Hawkye Quinjet, which is silver and dark red, throwing in some of these ships and a ship hitting a Quinjet Wings and he leaves falling, this time we discovered that in addition to Hawkye Widow and Cap are also in Quinjet. We are fighting with Cap Loki in a night scene, with the cap falling to the ground and going Loki with his spear into the chest of the Cap, when Iron Man arrives intervening in introducing several shots Loki. Then we have some more action in the forest, after Thor and Iron Man flying together and destroying some of the alien ships, Hulk with one foot on top of an alien and throwing a large object in the direction of several other aliens, and saying at the end of scene "Strike." We see Black Widow taking an alien to protect themselves from bullets fired by another alien, Cap in a night scene by jumping from Quinjet, Iron Man, Thor and Loki in fighting with RA, Hawkye aiming for a ship arrives while another without realizing it and throwing Hulk jumps shots in the direction of protecting the Hawkye, launching a missile Nick Fury, Thor and Cap fighting together against some aliens, Black Widow Hawkye shooting and shooting arrows together, Iron Man under the sea chasing something, Loki Hulk jumping and flying toward him when he points to the pro Hulk throws and throws a thunderbolt. The sequence ends. Of course, the scenes did not occur exactly in this sequence that I mentioned.
Appears on the screen "The Avengers". And then we have the best scene in the trailer: Loki in the air smiling on top of a building, there is much noise, and his eyes are following something, and we see a kind of dragon / snake around the city is destroying everything, it's going toward the Avengers who are all together. We see the heroes and frightened, and Hawkye going with the arm in his basket of arrows and discovering that only have one. The scene ends with Captain America shouting "Avengers Assemble!"
This was one of the scenes completed, but it was full of cuts, each "step" of the monster gave a screen flash, and it was something I enjoyed, because it only has the size to be something really monstrous, yet without revealing details. The scene actually shivered. Those present applauded for a long time.
We then see Captain America in action doing some stunts on top of cars destroyed in a NY, ending in a forest with him throwing the shield toward the screen. Black Widow riding a bike shooting at a vehicle with her bracelet and another shot with her dressed a little more intimate, beating some guys. We also see Thor flying with Mjolnir hitting shots and landing in a forest. Hawkeye launching an arrow that explodes the door of an elevator and he launched another arrow in an elevator which is rising. This second arrow sticks in the lift and drop a rope, safe and Hawkye that goes along with the elevator. Very nice scene. Then we have Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk in the same place since the first trailer and ending with Tony entering the Iron Man armor and a kind of missile chasing a big city.
Then appears on screen logo of Marvel and Paramount. Do not understand why not Disney.
We see all the heroes entering a room, just exchanging looks, and they seem very fond of each other, feeling that is confirmed in the scene where Tony, after making a silly, Cap asks him is everything always just comedy or something like that, and Tony responds something I do not remember now. I loved the scene.
In the room a part of the floor opens and Nick Fury comes and says that our planet has never faced a threat like this, and that these heroes must leave their differences aside and fight together, and that just so we hope. As he speaks we see that Tony Stark dropped to only part of the armor cap and ran toward him, Tony raises his arm in the position that will throw a lightning bolt and the cap puts the shield in front. Then we see Thor fight with Cap and Iron Man in a forest, with Thor directing a punch in the face of the direction of Cap that protects the shell, but the impact of the punch throws Cap few yards away. Finally, we see all the Avengers (I think) on top of a bridge fight with the Hulk. In the scene, one of my favorites on the trailer, we see the Cap kneeling on the floor while the Hulk makes a motion with the leg as it was to smash it and protecting it with the shield. We also see the Hulk holding the leg of the Iron Man and playing too hard on the ground and flying debris from the armor, and ends with a blow simultaneously with the Hulk hitting a punch in the face of it hitting the Thor and Mjolnir in the face of the Hulk , that part in slow motion.
After more than Fury's speech, saying that if the heroes do not cooperate and to "fight together" ... So we see Iron Man lying on the ground, and several future points to his head (I'm sure they are the aliens), the Mjolnir on ground and in the background Thor lying on the floor with his arms raised toward the Mjolnir, Cap and also lying on the ground. The scene of the HF and Cap seem to pass the film's climax, destroyed in NY, but Thor was in an enclosed area, I think even seen the first trailer when the Mjolnir goes to his direction. Fury says back off "together" and we see Thor giving his hand to his cap and taking off the ground and with the Iron Man armor on fire falling toward the ground and the Hulk leaping toward him in a position that would probably grab it. I confess I was slightly thrilling part of this trailer.
Then we have a pretty cool scene. We see some planes and helicopters coming out of nowhere, but then a huge aircraft will appear on the site, and where it is found that the planes and the helicopters are leaving. The scene is pretty cool, because the aircraft, which is actually the Helicarrier, coming out of stealth mode will little by little and little by little we have is the size of this ship, which covers a good part of town. Within it (apparently) see the Fury talking to Loki who is in a jail cell. Loki says that Fury has been taking some desperate measures recently, and then Fury starts quoting some of his crimes as "killing for fun" and says that he forced him to take desperate measures, "I had to form a nice group to stop it. " Then we see Loki coming off and face, and beating each Avenger once in the same location. I think that only the Hulk does not appear in this sequence. The last one showing up is Thor, who is standing face to face Loki in the same place he had fallen earlier in the trailer, saying "I'm not alone, brother," and Loki responds "I do not."
I loved that part, though simple. Thor is my favorite movie of Marvel, because these two characters, and tone that Chris uses in the scene, with a deep sadness and making it clear he still likes of Loki and the second saying his dialogue in an extremely cold (as in interrogation scene involving the Fury) and making it clear that unlike Thor, he no longer nourish no more feeling for his brother, really moved me.
After that "I do not" Loki several vessels hover over the golden city. Some of these aliens are dispatched ships, while they shoot beams and missiles against the city with the population in absolute chaos. The aliens are very similar to each other physically, but some are green, others blue or purple, and some wear a helmet protecting his face. I do not know if they've painted in comics, but were not Kreese nor the Skrulls, that's for sure.
So we have a scene that goes on inside the helmet of Iron Man armor with all those displayers. In one window we see the cap that says "and then continues to find it so funny?" And Stark says "Jarvis, cut the connection."
We see the Helicarrier above the clouds with some alien craft and shooting him Helicarrier fighting back. Soon after we see the Helicarrier cutting the clouds and falling toward the city. Inside we see the aircraft being rattled several agents, including the Fury. The scene gives the size of the aircraft that will make a beautiful fall damage.
Once we have the last sequence of the trailer, packed with action. I remember riding the Hawkye Quinjet, which is silver and dark red, throwing in some of these ships and a ship hitting a Quinjet Wings and he leaves falling, this time we discovered that in addition to Hawkye Widow and Cap are also in Quinjet. We are fighting with Cap Loki in a night scene, with the cap falling to the ground and going Loki with his spear into the chest of the Cap, when Iron Man arrives intervening in introducing several shots Loki. Then we have some more action in the forest, after Thor and Iron Man flying together and destroying some of the alien ships, Hulk with one foot on top of an alien and throwing a large object in the direction of several other aliens, and saying at the end of scene "Strike." We see Black Widow taking an alien to protect themselves from bullets fired by another alien, Cap in a night scene by jumping from Quinjet, Iron Man, Thor and Loki in fighting with RA, Hawkye aiming for a ship arrives while another without realizing it and throwing Hulk jumps shots in the direction of protecting the Hawkye, launching a missile Nick Fury, Thor and Cap fighting together against some aliens, Black Widow Hawkye shooting and shooting arrows together, Iron Man under the sea chasing something, Loki Hulk jumping and flying toward him when he points to the pro Hulk throws and throws a thunderbolt. The sequence ends. Of course, the scenes did not occur exactly in this sequence that I mentioned.
Appears on the screen "The Avengers". And then we have the best scene in the trailer: Loki in the air smiling on top of a building, there is much noise, and his eyes are following something, and we see a kind of dragon / snake around the city is destroying everything, it's going toward the Avengers who are all together. We see the heroes and frightened, and Hawkye going with the arm in his basket of arrows and discovering that only have one. The scene ends with Captain America shouting "Avengers Assemble!"
This was one of the scenes completed, but it was full of cuts, each "step" of the monster gave a screen flash, and it was something I enjoyed, because it only has the size to be something really monstrous, yet without revealing details. The scene actually shivered. Those present applauded for a long time.
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Cap blocks the stomp of the hulk with his shield. Thats is so righteous!!
Thats a really detailed description too. Just the little bits he describes make me feel like this is real. Especially the ending shot. I could see that happening.
Thats a really detailed description too. Just the little bits he describes make me feel like this is real. Especially the ending shot. I could see that happening.
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Ignoring the haters for a moment .... When Thor and Cap are fighting together and Thor angrily smashes that car so it flies down the street ... rather than just being a God chucking a tantrum, could Thor have been deliberately aiming the car so it takes out a bunch of the aliens or maybe one of their gold fighters which we saw crashed on the ground?
The only thing better than angry smashing Thor is a deliberate angry smashing Thor.
The only thing better than angry smashing Thor is a deliberate angry smashing Thor.
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I was reading thru that trailer description again and I can't help but laugh at the idea that Iron Man will be bickering with Cap thru his helmet screens. Too funny.
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I meant to ask this last night when he was mentioned but I had to go, so sorry for the delay.
I haven't been following Joss Whedon's career as many of you did. In fact, other than some producing and writing credits, I don't know much about him. However, I have read some very passionate things towards the guy, and Marvel gave him completely freedom in writing and directing such an important project like Avengers. What's so magnificent about him? I don't mean to sound provocative at all!, I actually want to know why so many people feel optimistic about him.
I haven't been following Joss Whedon's career as many of you did. In fact, other than some producing and writing credits, I don't know much about him. However, I have read some very passionate things towards the guy, and Marvel gave him completely freedom in writing and directing such an important project like Avengers. What's so magnificent about him? I don't mean to sound provocative at all!, I actually want to know why so many people feel optimistic about him.
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in short: nothing at all. He just happend to gather a large following of fanboys who are even more annoying than the Nolanites. His best work was Buffy and that was a real dreadful series. Other series he did, like Firefly, Angel or Dollhouse and even his runs on comic series, like X-Men, were even worse.
Nevertheless, this (my) opinion is not very popular and most think that he is a teriffic writer because he wrote a kiddie move in the 90ies that made Pixar famous. (Even though Dreamworks Animation made way better movies)
Nevertheless, it's Avengers we are talking about. You have to be an absolute moron to f*** that up and Whedon is not Uwe Böll.
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I have to confess I don't know much about Whedon either. Although, I did read his X-Men run and enjoyed it. He seems to have quite a following, so I'm just trusting the majority on this one that it was a good move to go with him.
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I almost disagree with everything you said except for that last part.
1. Nolanites are much worse
2. Buffy may or may not be his best work, but it's his most successful work
3. Firefly, Angel, Dollhouse and his X-Men run were all fine
4. Toy Story is not kiddie at all, as well as being an awesome movie
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/toy_story/
5. Dreamworks' best movies are The Prince of Egypt, How to train your Dragon and Shrek 1&2. Everything else is pretty mediocre. Pixar however has not made a stinker yet. (Although I haven't seen Cars 2 yet)
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wow, I strongly disagreed with you till the bolded point....
...then I knew, for a fact, that you're completely insane.
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